India-China 2020 Border conflict

[another_armchair]

Regarding SANT/Helina- Only trials after trials.

For the time being ATGMs remain only a devastating threat for armoured vehicles as no modern military has widespread adoption of the APS.

Hellfires are not used in ATGM role alone.

Hellfires are the primary strike weapon of Amru drones and hit just about anything including shelters where a bunch of tangos are hiding or just doing their thing.

Going forward, we will need a similar weapon in great numbers because the LoC and LAC could get quite hot.

Both Brimstone and Hellfire are very formidable weapons and we have to arm our frontline helis and drones with these at the earliest. As of now, only the Apaches carry Hellfires and probably the Reaper/Predator whichever are in the pipeline.

 

[Jimih]

joint Russia-China exercise.

West has forced Russia to go into China's sphere

 

[1971ftw]

that looks like a big explosion , might be filled with explosives?

 

[another_armchair]

joint Russia-China exercise.

West has forced Russia to go into China's sphere

Had said so last year that China is keeping Russia afloat and the Russkies will do their bidding.

As long as China keeps buying Russian oil and keeps Russia from going completely broke, the two will tango but the Dlagon has a history of extracting its own pound of flesh at an opportune time.

Russians are no saints. The two deserve each other. Time will tell who gets what out of the other but as of now, Russian oligarchs are smiling all the way to the bank.

 

[Jimih]

Had said so last year that China is keeping Russia afloat and the Russkies will do their bidding.

As long as China keeps buying Russian oil and keeps Russia from going completely broke, the two will tango but the Dlagon has a history of extracting its own pound of flesh at an opportune time.

Russians are no saints. The two deserve each other. Time will tell who gets what out of the other but as of now, Russian oligarchs are smiling all the way to the bank.

Almost 23% of Russian land is unhabitable.
Almost 24% of Russians are aged 60 and above.

All millitary technologies that Russia export is of Soviet Era, that means all developed during Soviet Union times that includes Sukhois, MiGs, Tanks, BMPs, Submarines etc.

How much hardwares independent Russia has developed is known to everyone and yes Chinese Dragon will extract pound of flesh from Russian Bear in coming future.

 

[another_armchair]

Almost 23% of Russian land is unhabitable.
Almost 24% of Russians are aged 60 and above.

All millitary technologies that Russia export is of Soviet Era, that means all developed during Soviet Union times that includes Sukhois, MiGs, Tanks, BMPs, Submarines etc.

How much products independent Russia has developed is know to everyone and yes Chinese Dragon will extract pound of flesh from Russian Bear in coming future.

China also bankrolling their Middle East campaign.

 

[Jimih]

no idea if its true.

On the evening of July 30, a plane crashed and exploded in Lianjiang, Zhanjiang, Guangdong! A military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, and the suspected aircraft was a military aircraft.

In the video, a CCP military vehicle appeared at the scene of the incident, full of soldiers and loaded with live ammunition, as if it were on the verge of an enemy.

There was a lot of discussion among the people nearby. Some said: "The plane fell from the sky and exploded. It happened to be next to the hospital building. It's dangerous!" Some said, "The plane fell on the edge of the hospital. It's dangerous." A lady said, "I'm still taking a shower. Well, the plane fell."

The video shows that from a distance, the raging flames that ignited where the plane crashed reflected a building in red. It doesn't look like a small airplane.

Now combine this news with this:



Maybe the crashed Chinese aircraft was part of the package that was on route to Pakistan.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Now combine this news with this:



May be the crashed Chinese aircraft was part of the package that was on route to Pakistan.

And you get a conspiracy theory

 

[johnq]

I think we are doing ourselves a disfavor by claiming RW when the current govt is only pro Bharat and believes in indigenous lifestyle and traditions vs the scum that ruled for decades. Giving it a RW classification is too simplistic and has nothing to do with it in a definition sense.

It's a trick used by the left wing to stop any policies that they disagree with. The NAZI party was also socialist with absolute government control. It's the left wing in the US who are trying to stop all dissent through the use of social media bans against anyone with an opinion that is different from the mainstream media/political establishment which is controlled by big business billionaires and wall street.

 

[johnq]

We need to ban all Chinese phones and devices. Chinese phones can be hijacked by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) due to backdoors built into their software or hardware, and these can be used to attack major infrastructure. By hijacking tens or even hundreds of millions of Chinese phones simultaneously, the CCP can use all of them at once as components of a massive cyber attack machine to take down vital infrastructure.

 

[Jimih]

We need to ban all Chinese phones and devices. Chinese phones can be hijacked by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) due to backdoors built into their software or hardware, and these can be used to attack major infrastructure. By hijacking tens or even hundreds of millions of Chinese phones simultaneously, the CCP can use all of them at once as components of a massive cyber attack machine to take down vital infrastructure.

But who will make Indians understand?

Only one Chinese company constitutes 4 major brands inside it.

This single company BBK Electronics itself has 39% of market share in India.

After the current Indo-China skirmishes, the sales of Chinese mobiles has only gone up.

What public can do about this? there are no options either. People want maximum features at affordable price.

 

[Knowitall]

What is he on about?

 

[johnq]

What do you propose? Micromax and Lava? Two companies fooling the people by rebranding chinese phones and calling it Indian. Infact, Xiaomi and Samsung phones are more Indian than the so called Indian phones.

The phone is an essential product and other than Samsung, there arent any non chinese phones to give you value for your hard earned money.

PS. I personally use Samsung S10+, but wouldn't mind using Xiaomi or One Plus.

Sure you can use Xiaomi and One Plus, but so can the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) military cyber-attack division when they choose to hijack your phone (along with hundreds of millions of other Chinese devices in India) to conduct a cyber attack. And then all these Chinese devices can be hijacked by the CCP hackers by using built in software/hardware backdoors; then tens/hundreds of millions of Chinese devices can be used simultaneously (as units of a massive hacking tool) to conduct a cyber attack on Indian infrastructure.

 

[Cheran]

What is he on about?

Or Modi forced status quo. (At least at Pangong Tso)

Glass half empty versus half full.

Kailash dash forced a mutual withdrawal (India from Kailash & CCP from F4 ridges to F8/Sirijap.

Or is Chellany implying that the strategic juice that India had accrued via Kailash dash was large enough to force CCP withdrawal in all areas/sectors?

I do not think it was the case.

Had India refused to withdraw from Kailash, CCP would still be sqatting at Pangong Tso areas.

Status quo in all areas have been the objective of GOI all along. (Yes, Chellany is a Hawk, i do understand his position though)

 

[mist_consecutive]

What is he on about?

I don't understand this new trend of blaming Modi specifically for each and every inconvenience that is happening in this country.

South and North Pangong Tso land swap was the army's strategic decision. Stationing a large number of troops in -30 and high altitude winds were taking a huge toll on both sides.

And let's be real, armchair military analysts think China will give back Depsang, Demchok, Pangong Tso, all for our (relatively) small adventure? Yeah, why not ask China to return us whole Aksai Chin and Xi as our personal slaves too?

Second, I don't think there has been any land grab in Demchok. Depsang, well it was hazy like our control beyond F4.

 

[1971ftw]

But who will make Indians understand?

Only one Chinese company constitutes 4 major brands inside it.

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This single company BBK Electronics itself has 39% of market share in India.

After the current Indo-China skirmishes, the sales of Chinese mobiles has only gone up.

What public can do about this? there are no options either. People want maximum features at affordable price.

I'm planning to buy a budget phone less than 45k

Don't know what to buy . I was a big fan of Asus but I heard it's gone shit in recent years

Any recommendations apart from Samsung?

 

[Marliii]

I'm planning to buy a budget phone less than 45k

Don't know what to buy . I was a big fan of Asus but I heard it's gone shit in recent years

Any recommendations apart from Samsung?

If you need value for your money don't go for samsung.that's all I have to say.

 

[Knowitall]

I don't understand this new trend of blaming Modi specifically for each and every inconvenience that is happening in this country.

South and North Pangong Tso land swap was the army's strategic decision. Stationing a large number of troops in -30 and high altitude winds were taking a huge toll on both sides.

And let's be real, armchair military analysts think China will give back Depsang, Demchok, Pangong Tso, all for our (relatively) small adventure? Yeah, why not ask China to return us whole Aksai Chin and Xi as our personal slaves too?

Second, I don't think there has been any land grab in Demchok. Depsang, well it was hazy like our control beyond F4.

Land grab has taken place but most of it was taken way back during 2010-14 timeline.

Other areas were also left in the fog of war nonsense it is buffer zone falana dikhana even though technically it is all our land only.

Govt for now is focusing on the most recent intrusions that took place under their watch and might come back to the older some day if ever. We will lucky if all these intrusions will be dealt with looking at the current methods being used.

 

[another_armchair]

Samsung is the last phone before you compromise your data and privacy severely by using a Chinese phone.

Their lock screen ads are just as intrusive and they make money out of them. People just don't understand.

Even SMS'es are compromised. One click on 'I agree' and Mi gets access to all your SMS'es including OTPs. Imagine mining millions of those Aadhaar and online transaction OTPS will help them understand the algorithm used to generate it.

One fine day, we might see a million transactions originating from Macau and at least 50-60% of them succeeding.

 

[fire starter]

Poor fellow now his organs will be harvested.