India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Not sure, but its in testing, this youtube channel said testing will continue till 2025
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according to google image search , thats a cgi render.


:hmm: i am no expert in military planes but what advantage would this offer over their older bomber h-6

which can take off from outside tibet and hit us from far inside chinese territory using its missiles.
 

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in a worst case scenario they can mostly can use new h20 prototypes or LSP versions like they do with h6 combat doctrine, because you need years of trails to perfect the combat strategy and platform maturity to employ it as its own doctrine like USAF do with b-2, considering fact we must preserve credible retaliation power like tu22m in small numbers (5 to 6 ) as a stop gap measure, as of now china playing waiting game
 

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Just look at the no of Tanks deployed by PLA east of Pangong Tso. These pictures tells the story they will not maintain peace and tranquality which MEA urge everyday

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Is this recent picture or last year ?

Chinese Stealth bomber spotted doing trials near Hotan. Time to rethink our strategy?
Don't think they will push it to battle this early, maybe 2-3 years down the line.

Why would any one test their newly developed aircraft directly at high altitude, It's bullshit.
Feasibility testing. Stealth coating/material requires very high maintenance and specialized facilities like climate-controlled hangers.
 

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Why would any one test their newly developed aircraft directly at high altitude, It's bullshit.
they know iaf watching them, so may be done to send a message or show of force, in other thought they may be try to find out is the h20 visible to Indian early warning radars so they can prefect the final production aircraft
 

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according to google image search , thats a cgi render.


:hmm: i am no expert in military planes but what advantage would this offer over their older bomber h-6

which can take off from outside tibet and hit us from far inside chinese territory using its missiles.
Stealth bombers do have a advantage in the sense that when India gets s-400 and XR-SAM chinese bombers in Tibet would also be under threat but this issue can be dealt with a large extent by bringing in stealth bombers. It does not solve the issues but improves the chances of success by a great degree.

Plus the bomber is designed to operate in SCS region in high intensity combat zones saturated with AD systems to hit far away islands from China in the Pacific.

Both china and US are moving towards stealth bombers for this very reason.

The aim is to drastically improve the success rate in AA/AD environments.
 

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Won't be surprised if MEA announces satyagraha & demonstrate art of resistance at LAC, as China is not interested in further bilateral talks with India on disengagement in other fronts.

Gogra, Hotspring are areas where Chinese refused to move back to Pre Apr'20 status quo.
 

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Never heard of it for Su30MKI
All su27 series have the problem of transonic trap. In the transonic phase, only 6G maneuvers can be done. Only su35 and J16 solve this problem through digital full authority fly-by-wire flight control.
 

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That's why I said only J16 is close to Su30MKI, Further J16 does not have the aerodynamics performance of the Su30MKI series, even the OEM(Russia) prefers the Indian MKI/SM series, so you can guess which is better.
All Indian Su30s are up for an upgrade which will include an AESA radar and other upgrades.

BTW Only Indian Su30MKI can carry BRAHMOS - World's fastest cruise missile.

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The delta wing layout can only improve the rolling performance of the su30, but increase the weight.
 

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Based on these pics...

We know length of Brahmos is 28feet..

Dimensions based on the mushroom in the last pic...

Base of the mushroom is atleast 90-100 feet.

Height of fireball is atleast 200 feet.

Width of the fireball is atleast 250 feet..

Wow... That's quite a big bang..

I still want to see impact of Brahmos on a hardened bunker and a runway someday...
Date of the Images can't be determined.



@mist_consecutive @mokoman

When you guys dig up these images of PLA infra, is there a way to calculate built up area of the compound in sq. foot?

want to do a sample calculation of how many cruise missiles it takes to take out one compound.

we can use these back of the envelope numbers for reference.


Based on these pics...

We know length of Brahmos is 28feet..

Dimensions based on the mushroom in the last pic...

Base of the mushroom is atleast 90-100 feet.

Height of fireball is atleast 200 feet.

Width of the fireball is atleast 250 feet..

Wow... That's quite a big bang..

I still want to see impact of Brahmos on a hardened bunker and a runway someday...
 

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Wasn't J-11 later versions upgraded?
J11B Yes, the degree of upgrade is not large. It should be the Air Force’s own maintenance plant to upgrade the electronic countermeasures and add the air combat assistance system.
 

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US,japan are in peace with you?
So the main force of the Chinese Air Force is deployed in the east,
There is no risk of war between Japan and the United States in the near future
 

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28 PLAAF Plane
Biggest so far, I think.
China can’t afford to invade Taiwan, it’s domestic economy as well as world economy will collapse as Taiwan is the world’s largest manufacturer of semiconductor chips and it’s supply being affected will destroy world economies.
 
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