India-China 2020 Border conflict

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omaebakabaka

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some of it might be for electronic warfare:troll::troll:
Hope they don't destroy the character of place like Chinese did in the occupied Tibet, one can't miss ugly towers even at 14000 ft and their concrete hideous constructions everywhere. No harmony with the place while the native tibetan structures and houses give a character to the place....they should do mobile ones whereever possible with ground power supply
 

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Nope, it's legit, this model is being tried here also since 2020.
Expectation is the Govt will cuck out and not do something drastic like run tanks over them.
Read up on "color revolutions", it is same model.

Basically they use high optics "protests" by "peaceful students"( other groups also used today ) to get the autocratic ruler to REJINEEEEEE and in cases of China, "reform" and "hold free and fair elections".


If CCP would have cucked out, it would be a pozzed Democracy today, and that would actually be good for us tbh, their land grabbing schemes could be more easily dealt with had we the "Chinese Liberal party" whatever it may be in our pockets.

Democrazy means enough corruption and traitors that external forces can exploit.

Why do you think US spreads freedumb and democrazy everywhere?
"We will defeat you through your own systems only"- CPC, People's Republic of China
 

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What are the chances that the impasse on current disengagement continue for years ?

According to me this is going to be another sumdorong standoff, nothing will happen. All dragon can do is widen it's fang to instil a fear & force down to accept Chinese hegemony in the region which is not going to happen anyway. Apart from this, all the goodwill china had earned world wide has gone in vain due to Wuhan virus, in the long run china will find it difficult to maintain it's mainstream position in world affairs.

Galwan has left scar in the minds of Chinese military planner that they won't take any bet until they are not risking a full blown war.
 

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What are the chances that the impasse on current disengagement continue for years ?

According to me this is going to be another sumdorong standoff, nothing will happen. All dragon can do is widen it's fang to instil a fear & force down to accept Chinese hegemony in the region which is not going to happen anyway. Apart from this, all the goodwill china had earned world wide has gone in vain due to Wuhan virus, in the long run china will find it difficult to maintain it's mainstream position in world affairs.

Galwan has left scar in the minds of Chinese military planner that they won't take any bet until they are not risking a full blown war.
Standoff will happen it is a known fact, but I think this time there may be guns also involved other than
bleeding edge equipments of stone age
 

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What are the chances that the impasse on current disengagement continue for years ?

According to me this is going to be another sumdorong standoff, nothing will happen. All dragon can do is widen it's fang to instil a fear & force down to accept Chinese hegemony in the region which is not going to happen anyway. Apart from this, all the goodwill china had earned world wide has gone in vain due to Wuhan virus, in the long run china will find it difficult to maintain it's mainstream position in world affairs.

Galwan has left scar in the minds of Chinese military planner that they won't take any bet until they are not risking a full blown war.
Impasse is not good as by most indicators we lost some land and knowing chinese they will continue to indulge based on opportunities and need....its unfortunate but we should always be on hair trigger alert and can't blink even on minor infringements and indulge in bit of slicing ourselves where we have a chance. It is a good thing as we can focus on getting our defence needs attention
 

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What are the chances that the impasse on current disengagement continue for years ?

According to me this is going to be another sumdorong standoff, nothing will happen. All dragon can do is widen it's fang to instil a fear & force down to accept Chinese hegemony in the region which is not going to happen anyway. Apart from this, all the goodwill china had earned world wide has gone in vain due to Wuhan virus, in the long run china will find it difficult to maintain it's mainstream position in world affairs.

Galwan has left scar in the minds of Chinese military planner that they won't take any bet until they are not risking a full blown war.
That scar won't last for long.

CCP is great at brainwashing people. Few days back, a weibo star with 2.5 million followers was arrested for 8 months in China for posting that "China might have suffered more than 4 lives in the clash".


They will continue to crack down on people that portray it as a Chinese loss. And eventually the fear in the minds of Chinese soldiers against India will fade away due to propaganda.
 

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What interest of Bangladesh is involved in this? ORB?


It is similar to how 2% Christians in India never celebrate Holi,
while 80% Hindus in India have a Christmas vacation.

It's called: INFLUENCE

China is picking up on India's neighbors. India would have militarily taken over these (Bangla..., P***stan, etc.) had they not have been muslims.

Now Chinese influence is growing in these nations. And Bangaldeshis calling this as a genocide day is an example of that.

They forget the Famine of Bengal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
Which was 3 million deaths and jerking over 10,000 Chinese deaths.
 

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China is picking up on India's neighbors. India would have militarily taken over these (Bangla..., P***stan, etc.) had they not have been muslims.
And yet hindus are dumb enough to chant sicularism and what not after all these experiences. I guess if one was to believe in Darwin's theory then we are doomed as hindus walk on the path of the suicide like kamikazi drones
 

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And yet hindus are dumb enough to chant sicularism and what not after all these experiences. I guess if one was to believe in Darwin's theory then we are doomed as hindus walk on the path of the suicide like kamikazi drones
CAA law of India should have already proved you that Hindus are no way secular. If you still believe India is secular, you are mistaken.

However they do not even want to destroy Muslims, or do they have any bad intentions against Muslims. We all believe in:

"vasudhaiva kutumbakam"

Meaning world is one.

It is Islmaophobia and not bad intentions against Muslims which causes India not to join hands with Muslims.

And 700 years of Muslim rule and destruction done by Muslims against Indian civilization is the reason for this phobia.

Remember, 3 best actors in Indian Bollywood are Muslims: Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan and Amir Khan.

Those who are peaceful towards us are still given fair opportunity despite religion, race, etc.
 

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CAA law of India should have already proved you that Hindus are no way secular. If you still believe India is secular, you are mistaken.

However they do not even want to destroy Muslims, or do they have any bad intentions against Muslims. We all believe in:

"vasudhaiva kutumbakam"

Meaning world is one.

It is Islmaophobia and not bad intentions against Muslims which causes India not to join hands with Muslims.

And 700 years of Muslim rule and destruction done by Muslims against Indian civilization is the reason for this phobia.

Remember, 3 best actors in Indian Bollywood are Muslims: Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan and Amir Khan.

Those who are peaceful towards us are still given fair opportunity despite religion, race, etc.
None of that works the way you expressed though and history is evidence of it...whether its europeans or islamic outsiders/insiders or someone else, one has to be on guard who they they let in their home and sacred lands just like Japanese, chinese and Koreans do....as soon as these people get into majority they would split and it happened twice and almost with Kashmir and even Sikhs did that too....and look at Kerala the two minorities there will never vote for BJP, their hate is too deep
 

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None of that works the way you expressed though and history is evidence of it...whether its europeans or islamic outsiders/insiders or someone else, one has to be on guard who they they let in their home and sacred lands just like Japanese, chinese and Koreans do....as soon as these people get into majority they would split and it happened twice and almost with Kashmir and even Sikhs did that too....and look at Kerala the two minorities there will never vote for BJP, their hate is too deep
"one has to be on guard who they they let in their home and sacred lands just like Japanese, chinese and Koreans do."

You are writing as if Indians were never prepared for an external invasion. And allowed these groups by will.

In case of Britishers, it was Delhi Sultanate in power who allowed British East India company.

Remember, India successfully defended itself against Alexender the Great and any possible invasion by Europeans for 100s of years.

Even Ghenghis Khan who ruled over China and almost all of central Asia and Europe could not capture India. Such was our power.

Even Muslims tried for 300 years to conquer India and were only successful after many tries. And it was a result of long battles and not voluntary chosen by Indians.
 

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With the level of appeasement we see from our politicians towards non-hindus and anti-hindu policies who are ironically the natives of the land, we are far from saying that we tried to defend from invaders....it just feels too late. Golden chance missed in 1947, by 2050 more states get into minority...heck our govt is not even protecting hindu ethnic cleansing in WB....anyway its OT
It's only BJP. Other parties like Congress are not Akhand Bharat supporters or hindu nationalists.

But India will still choose development via BJP, over secular non-working/weak/corrupt congress. Development before anything.

Maybe we can bring in much more secular party after 10-15 years and try to address these issues. But right now, BJP despite it's Hinduistic policies is the best option.

Anyways, this is not relevant to this thread. So let's close this non-border conflict discussion.
 

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BJP is a pretender. At best its a less corrupt, less malignant version of the Congress and lesser of the evils. Name one thing it has done to Hindutvafy India? Ram temple issue sorted out through judiciary and it was mainly due to Sub Swamy. 370 was a gross discrepancy in the constitution which was again removed constitutionally. Internal security has been good, but it has been good for both Hindus/Muslims - bombs/bullets dont make any distinction. Balakot was not followed through and PAF should have been neutered on Feb 27th. The so called secular Congress under Indira did far more damage to Pak than the so called Hindu nationalist party.

Have the fake leftist/communist history in the textbooks been revised? No
Discriminatory control of Hindu temples by govt revoked? No
CAA is just on paper. Has it been enforced? No
UCC? No

Then how the hell is it a "Hindu nationalist" party?
 
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