India-China 2020 Border conflict

[IndianYonko]

First, a question?
How can we prove its for vaccine?

Second, why people are this despararte for vaccine. That means death count is really high.

We can make all the jokes we want but it sucks that they are gaining every more land of ours....result is what matters in war. Fuck the bravery, wars are ever more fought with equipment and not swords or duels....there is no place for any strategy other than offensive and proportionate with CCP thugs

Offense is not a strategy; At best its part of strategy.

Lets trust people who have protected the boundary for decades. And their strategic capabilities too.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Offense is not a strategy; At best its part of strategy.

Lets trust people who have protected the boundary for decades. And their strategic capabilities too.

Offence and Defense are the broad postures when setting an objective or realizing an objective....with China we did not protect our boundary, all you need to do is look at the map of India and reality. Whatever we did or have been doing yielded very poor results so far. We need to learn to punch over our weight or atleaset proportionate to our weight

 

[omaebakabaka]

mid q biological attack has not woken the world up I don’t know what will?

Going by historical events, we are either witnessing years before what the world looked like before ww1 and 2 or US setting new trend as incumbent power to peacefully abdicate

 

[mist_consecutive]

That's the thing, these sort of things put pressure on us vs them and since we never decide the start of hot action and they do by slowly and steadyily moving in without hot war....we are going to lose in more situation than not. This is blunder on our side to not put pressure on them.

Retreating is always their strategy but they never lost land against us....our strategy clearly is not very effective against this type of enemy. I am convinced they only understand language of power and proportion

We are always so sure of going all out guns on China, but have you thought of the prospectus that in a full-fledged war, we may lose?

You will say, I am pessimistic, babu mentality, and give up early. But give it a thought for a second. They came prepared, we started preparing only after we got surprised. They have better tanks, more attack helicopters, a ridiculous amount of artillery, and as many troops as us, plus they have better infrastructure.

All this between a global pandemic sucking up our morale and coffers.

Maybe playing passive and defensively last year was indeed the best plan? We can always prepare and strike back in the next 2-3 years or even 10 years when we will have better preparation?

It is very strange that I often see many people concerned about the construction of China's border infrastructure.
But little attention was paid to the the Western Theater Command, It has taken over full defence task with India and Central Asia.
A large number of new equipment has been replaced in the last year.
J16 fighter, 15 tank, new Armored Vehicle，new artillery, helicopter, long-range rocket launcher...

? They always had them. Just because those equipment were not in Western theatre does not mean they wouldn't have been moved if war started?

In fact all of the equipment you mentioned were already present last year.

 

[Blank]

Operation Snow Leopard proved that being offensive against the Chinese is a good plan. They 'The Chinese' have formed a image of us, people who can be bullied and we won't lift a finger. Operation Snow Leopard turned that thing upside down. (similar to what happened in 1967)

There are two choices : go big or go home.

Either go on the offensive. If you win, the Chinese won't dare to attack you. As a bonus, you will gain reputation, new land and possibly become a legend. If you lose, then your land will be taken, you will lose everything like Nehru did.

Or stay like a tortoise and lose everything just like the first option. Only slowly. By the time it's too late, it's really too late.

 

[omaebakabaka]

We are always so sure of going all out guns on China, but have you thought of the prospectus that in a full-fledged war, we may lose?

You will say, I am pessimistic, babu mentality, and give up early. But give it a thought for a second. They came prepared, we started preparing only after we got surprised. They have better tanks, more attack helicopters, a ridiculous amount of artillery, and as many troops as us, plus they have better infrastructure.

All this between a global pandemic sucking up our morale and coffers.

Maybe playing passive and defensively last year was indeed the best plan? We can always prepare and strike back in the next 2-3 years or even 10 years when we will have better preparation?

Actually, they have more to lose and every vulture that is waiting for China to be put back in its place will indirectly help us....we may lose as one never knows the results of war. I think fighting in Himalayas generally favors us in offensive mode, Tibet is all plains once you cross the ranges....I don't think it will ever get easy as they gain more power and it will be too late to even think about it down the line. We need to make sure defense lines are really strong in other sectors like East where the threat is actually big, Need to slash this beast before they establish corridors via POK

 

[omaebakabaka]

Either go on the offensive. If you win, the Chinese won't dare to attack you. As a bonus, you will gain reputation, new land and possibly become a legend. If you lose, then your land will be taken, you will lose everything like Nehru did.

Actually, if then govt had some brains we would have easily won the 62....total negligence on Nehru govt side as they never learned lessons from POK carvings from earlier wars....truly dumb idiot

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Going by historical events, we are either witnessing years before what the world looked like before ww1 and 2 or US setting new trend as incumbent power to peacefully abdicate

This in many countries is similar to the Hiroshima bombing without the radioactive fallout and destruction of buildings

 

[omaebakabaka]

This in many countries is similar to the Hiroshima bombing without the radioactive fallout and destruction of buildings

You mean the wuhan virus bio weapon? If so yes absolutely, kinda tells you US going limp already...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

You mean the wuhan virus bio weapon? If so yes absolutely, kinda tells you US going limp already...

US has shown little to no leadership in all this makes you wonder what the real reasons are??
If USA went to war for 20 years after 9/11 4K people dying ; and doing nothing when 600,000 die isn’t that. Strange??

 

[Edinburgh]

We are always so sure of going all out guns on China, but have you thought of the prospectus that in a full-fledged war, we may lose?

You will say, I am pessimistic, babu mentality, and give up early. But give it a thought for a second. They came prepared, we started preparing only after we got surprised. They have better tanks, more attack helicopters, a ridiculous amount of artillery, and as many troops as us, plus they have better infrastructure.

All this between a global pandemic sucking up our morale and coffers.

Maybe playing passive and defensively last year was indeed the best plan? We can always prepare and strike back in the next 2-3 years or even 10 years when we will have better preparation?



? They always had them. Just because those equipment were not in Western theatre does not mean they wouldn't have been moved if war started?

In fact all of the equipment you mentioned were already present last year.

You misunderstand the information. The Chinese military is replacing old equipment with new equipment, not handing over equipment from one regional air force to another.
in western theater commond ,J16 fighters replaced all the old existing J-7 fighter in 2020

 

[omaebakabaka]

US has shown little to no leadership in all this makes you wonder what the real reasons are??
If USA went to war for 9/11 4K people dying and doing nothing when 400,000 die isn’t that. Strange??

Kinda easy to understand, they have a become a replica of India in so many ways and living out of inertia from the fruits of earlier generations crimes and hardwork and productivity. Politicians and media have become one group and successfully broken the enthusiasm of people in participating and protecting their identity and the system associated to it....now they play politics to self-persevere vs nation building and strenthening....not surprised at all. American general population seems to believe in tooth fairies of social equality and justice and santa claus and what not while real world is going to show them the door sooner than later

 

[Lost user]

board in the background says "Varja Trials Induc & Mob Validation"

i think they were only doing trials.

You can see the board is a collage of the trial photos.. I think the trials in ladakh were already complete, and the collage is commemorative..

 

[omaebakabaka]

You misunderstand the information. The Chinese military is replacing old equipment with new equipment, not handing over equipment from one regional air force to another.
in western theater commond ,J16 fighters replaced all the old existing J-7 fighter in 2020

There are many ways to fight a more stronger opponent as long as you are steadfast and have a goal to pursue.....I condemn murder but recent Rajasthan murder of doctor couple, where the guy who shot them had an objective and went after it.....India needs to strongly explore the idea of arms and encouraging tibetans to rise up and support tghem with small arms....Chinese do that through Nepal, Myanmar and BD....we need to have objectives, we are a peninsula not an island unfortunately

 

[sorcerer]

China blames Britain for India's troubles in Kashmir


NEW DELHI/BEIJING: In an unusual diplomatic move, China on Friday lashed out at the British blaming them for India's troubles in Kashmir.

In a series of tweets, the Chinese government spokesperson Zhao Lijian attacked the UK and its British imperialistic past, with respect to India and Indian Kashmir.

China blames Britain for India's troubles in Kashmir

NEW DELHI/BEIJING: In an unusual diplomatic move, China on Friday lashed out at the British blaming them for India's troubles in Kashmir. In a series of tweets,

www.sentinelassam.com

well!! shows chinese are very worried about India UK trade deals/ India -EU trade deals and discussions.


chinese will always the whining bitch on the block

 

[Apollo]

First, a question?
How can we prove its for vaccine?

Second, why people are this despararte for vaccine. That means death count is really high.



Offense is not a strategy; At best its part of strategy.

Lets trust people who have protected the boundary for decades. And their strategic capabilities too.

Being offensive is the best defense especially handling an unpredictable & greedy country like China

 

[Apollo]

Maybe playing passive and defensively last year was indeed the best plan? We can always prepare and strike back in the next 2-3 years or even 10 years when we will have better preparation?

As the situation is simmering high time PM shud step up and build a vibrant anti China narrative on international forums. Enough the soft approach policy on china until now we don't even name the bully anywhere. And its annoying to see MEA interfering in all defence affairs wrt to China, defence ministry shud deal the matter unanimously from now on.
Let the non alignment policy goes down the drain & we need a strong alignment which suits our national interest. And lastly if a country can fight only on economic terms then Vietnam cudnt won against US & China, Pakistan wudnt be provoking us for decades.
If political leadership start acting on national interest we can demonstrate to the world that China is just a paper dragon.

 

[sorcerer]

 

[Apollo]

New chinese virus variant discovered by Vietnam A strain that has inherited from both B.1.1.7 ( discovered in ) and B.1.617.2 ( discovered in )
According to them strain is super-infectious and airborne.
Wondering how all deadly strains getting discovered only in the countries that oppose chenes.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]