IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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How do gora journalists accepting or not accepting make us win or lose info war?

That's laughable they are not going to accept a western f-16 loss to a 70s MIG 21,
And neither is the track record of western media houses or journalists clean or unbiased for them to be considered gospel of truth.
They regularly emanate fake news and propoganda ,so, there credibility is nil ,

Our own people who are over a billion accepted it ,hence no worries,

Our officialy govt/iaf stand is we shot down a f-16 ,
One only needs to check the track record of Indian armed forces statements and paki army statements and decide for themselves.
Indian armed forces have a clean record, we have never hidden our casaulities neither have we made fake tall claims.

Pork army is on opposite end of spectrum.
Of course our own population has accepted the truth, and will believe our armed forces. And pakis are hopeless, they'll believe everything from gayfoor. So the only relevant target for us in an info war is the international community. I hope people here haven't gone on the futile mission of convincing pakis.
 

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If we can summarize the info war of this whole episode, India won the info war on the Balakot strike, and pakistan won the info war of the feb 27 air skirmish. Western journalists generally accept the fact that India struck Balakot, but don't accept that we shot down an f 16 the following day.
Our Crying baby, foreign maal demanding IAF won nothing ( regretfully ). They were crying before Balakot and even crying today ( Dhanua was cry today " Even people don't use a car that old, MIG ).
For Balakot, we can consider it victory because it serve the cause ( deterrence ) and sent stark message to Pak that there will be serious consequences for any misadventure. Indeed, this is our failure we haven't provided any credible evidence of damage cause by bombing ( only one Italian journalist ) and neither gave any clear proof of F-16 downing ( intelligence failure )
 

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Our Crying baby, foreign maal demanding IAF won nothing ( regretfully ). They were crying before Balakot and even crying today ( Dhanua was cry today " Even people don't use a car that old, MIG ).
For Balakot, we can consider it victory because it serve the cause ( deterrence ) and sent stark message to Pak that there will be serious consequences for any misadventure. Indeed, this is our failure we haven't provided any credible evidence of damage cause by bombing ( only one Italian journalist ) and neither gave any clear proof of F-16 downing ( intelligence failure )
If Paki is shameless and wants to hide casualties then it's their choice .

For us, our intended goals are met. No more suicide, infact any attacks whilst stone pelting reduced to minimum. That's the whole reason why we did surgical strikes.

It can be Santa for all we care that led to sharp decrease in incidents. Ultimate goal is met, rest all are details as ridiculous as all paki converted to self immolating Buddhists.

One more pulwama and pakiland will cease to exist and like before, without any proof.
 

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If Paki is shameless and wants to hide casualties then it's their choice .

For us, our intended goals are met. No more suicide, infact any attacks whilst stone pelting reduced to minimum. That's the whole reason why we did surgical strikes.

It can be Santa for all we care that led to sharp decrease in incidents. Ultimate goal is met, rest all are details as ridiculous as all paki converted to self immolating Buddhists.

One more pulwama and pakiland will cease to exist and like before, without any proof.
You right. As I said, Balakot was a great step but we have to make sure that our enemy should not find any excuse to save their face. they should have Bomb Balakot in a way where everybody feels a shiver in bones, a complete obliteration. 27 Feb was a total disaster for IAF. some say we don't care about the world Infact, we must care about it otherwise we will like another Pakistan
 

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You right. As I said, Balakot was a great step but we have to make sure that our enemy should not find any excuse to save their face. they should have Bomb Balakot in a way where everybody feels a shiver in bones, a complete obliteration. 27 Feb was a total disaster for IAF. some say we don't care about the world Infact, we must care about it otherwise we will like another Pakistan
Paki ******s lost an F 16 for a MiG 21 being downed. A plane we will be retiring starting this year. We bombed them while they could do nothing.

Unless you're a Paki ****** you wouldn't raise such questions.
 

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It seems people here got some serious comprehension problem.
No. This is not the case. A lot of us understand which you don't.

West has always been against us but it did not changed the truth. In 65,71 western newspaper were running paki propaganda. Famous Gen. chuck yeager even claimed that pakistan will take over delhi in a week in 71 war.
We all know the outcome of these wars.
If you are thinking we will appease those who are hell bent on seeing our destruction then you will be disappointed.
Don't let these western media influence you. We will come out as victors and they will have to eat their words.
 

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You right. As I said, Balakot was a great step but we have to make sure that our enemy should not find any excuse to save their face. they should have Bomb Balakot in a way where everybody feels a shiver in bones, a complete obliteration. 27 Feb was a total disaster for IAF. some say we don't care about the world Infact, we must care about it otherwise we will like another Pakistan
IAF went to obliterate that place but while spice 2000 worked, Crystal Maze couldn't be fired because of cloudy condition as this weapon require visual lock.
 

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It seems people here got some serious comprehension problem.
The very fact that Pakistan is not attacking India directly inspite of India abrogating article 370 and bifurcating Kashmir and converting both into union territories shows something isn't it . Fact remains that Indian performance on Feb 27 must have been better than the Pakistanis claim. That's why they are not gathering the courage to attack us .
 

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The very fact that Pakistan is not attacking India directly inspite of India abrogating article 370 and bifurcating Kashmir and converting both into union territories shows something isn't it . Fact remains that Indian performance on Feb 27 must have been better than the Pakistanis claim. That's why they are not gathering the courage to attack us .
They shut down their frigging airspace for months fearing an Indian reprisal.

Even the follow up CAPs by IAF jets largely went unanswered from the other side.

Their aim that day was to surprise and spook IAF and get away with a couple of kills. A kill they got, but also a rude surprise in the form of losing their prize jewel, a two seater plane, the one that actually landed the LGB on the tree in front of the brigade HQ.

So Abhi sacrificed himself to avenge the Brigade HQ attack and the ensure that his wingman Alpha-2 was able to get away to safety.

Veer chakra indeed.
 

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The thing is around any significant event ,a plethora of Pakistanis descend on this forum with Hindu ,xtian ,Sikh names
and play subtle good cop bad cop ,
using secularism ,trying to create doubt in minds of people ,even giving false info so we rt the hell out of it.

So ,people here get very protective especially about things which are previously discussed in 100s of pages ,

We can not buy the leftist media ,neither right now we have any of our own info channel like Brits BBC or Russian RT ,

So, this hogwash of we lost propoganda war doesn't matter ,
for that the so called news portals or journalists would have to have a clean unbiased track record which is not the case with BBC, RT, CNN,nyt or dumb Australian teenage researchers(lol) etc
So, by default we will always "lose" info war in minds of some people who want others recognition or in Hindi "kya kahenge log" syndrome as all of these colonial and jehadi funded portals are inherently anti INDIA or anti Hindu or right wing hating and has a huge huge nexus
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They have done same to China ,same to Iran ,Assad ,Saddam and Russia etc etc
None of the above lost any info war they just put out their version and ignored the rest bs.
I can see your concern and I agree with that too.
All I was saying, damage should be visible so that no one was needed to ask about proof. it will also deter fake media
 

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