IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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I see punch through holes in the refinery tanks, similar to what Balakot strike main building.

Nothing is flattened there.

Did you read the clarifications of the Report authors on those supposed holes ??? That were not holes, Those were image pixels gone bad. Don't claim false things until you have gone through the Complete reports of those authors themselves. Thank you. because they clarified these points already
 

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While you are raising doubts on auditors and counting process while on the other hand believing the conjectures of sameer joshi and and SHahzuzdin and what not. Irony ?
It's because Pakistan has dubious record of hiding losses mixed with rampant lies and counter claims. In comparison sameer is just a retired mirage pilot giving his version purely on OSINT.

As per Abhinandan own admission, He was looking for a target. Don't twist his words. He hasn't claimed in India on Public tv interview yet that he got lock on F-16. Allow him to come on TV and say the same exact thing
Abhinandan last words were r-73 locked before comms were snapped. You need to read more news articles.
 

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Pak Army made it public Pakistan was attacked and we will take revenge. Why the double standards then ?

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Indian Army made it public that its installations were targeted. The bombs dropped made no much impact but we will treat it as an attack on our territory and will take revenge.

What else you want us to prove and show it to journalists?"


Allow indian journalists the access to 6 bombbed sites, then ask Pakistani's this question.
Listen here, smart boy.

Pak Army made it public Pakistan was attacked and we will take revenge. Why the double standards then ?
Pak army said we missed and bombed some trees. They said they will take journalists there to prove to the world...err, but the weather is down, so we cannot go. And the weather surprisingly does not clear up for the next one month :scared2:

We from the day one said Pakistan tried to bomb our army installations but failed to create any damage (No trees, crows or empty buildings).

Allow indian journalists the access to 6 bombbed sites, then ask Pakistani's this question.
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Ahh, yes, take reporters to secretive army installations. Why not? Next, let's take them for a joyride in our nuclear installations too.
We never said we will take reporters. Your DG ISPR claimed you will prove by taking reporters, then delay it by one month.
 

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Just like Abhinandan was not aware of any F-16 he shot down and IAF is forcefully attributing F-16 kill to him ?

what was your Female Squadron leader doing on TV channel then ? That too with makeup and scripted dialogues? You see whatever you say, equally applies on you too. Indians are doing the same.

While you are raising doubts on auditors and counting process while on the other hand believing the conjectures of sameer joshi and and SHahzuzdin and what not. Irony ?
The male chauvinism is typical of madrasa Jihadi and his issues with IAF's Female officer is sickening. @tarunraju please look into this repeated rant implying that a Female officer giving some interview makes it less credible but male Gafoora caught lying is alright.

Sameer Joshi's has provided enough academic material to qualify for this forum's attention. His article is of a different nature, lengthy research which is not countred by PAF or ISPR point by point. He is not making a claim based on unknown officials and attributing it to an agency of a sovereign nation which has categorically denied it. You are again trying to conflate 2 different issues and exposing your low IQ.
 

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The Indian Air Force definitely hit targets during the Balakat strikes. The munitions they used were designed to penetrate structures and rain shrapnel everywhere. They likely missed some targets; however, not much is known, terrorist often use creative camouflage and often hid in caves or underground. In a lot of footage from Syria airstrikes seem to hit nothing when in reality if people watch the entire footage, videos often show terrorist bidding in tunnels or caves then an airstrike hit that area:



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The Indian Air Force definitely hit targets during the Balakat strikes. The munitions they used were designed to penetrate structures and rain shrapnel everywhere. They likely missed some targets; however, not much is known, terrorist often use creative camouflage and often hid in caves or underground. In a lot of footage from Syria airstrikes seem to hit nothing when in reality if people watch the entire footage, videos often show terrorist bidding in tunnels or caves then an airstrike hit that area:



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what is this then ??







 

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On a Porki forum they tried to get a response from a visiting American professional. He cleverly told them that there is munition available which only targets soft tissue. Though science is luxury for Pakistanis they will find it difficult to digest that 200 of their trained Terrorists right 80KM inside Pakistan were roasted by raiding brave IAF Pilots.


It took them 45 days to repair the building with worn-out material probably canablised from another building and dispose of the dead bodies.
 

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Pak Army made it public Pakistan was attacked and we will take revenge. Why the double standards then ?

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Indian Army made it public that its installations were targeted. The bombs dropped made no much impact but we will treat it as an attack on our territory and will take revenge.

What else you want us to prove and show it to journalists?"


Allow indian journalists the access to 6 bombbed sites, then ask Pakistani's this question.

Looks like you have lost your mental balance completely.

Let me put it into chronology and right perspective for other readers before you are kicked out.

You said India must show its installation to Journalists because we question denied access to Terror camps by Pakistan or late access after 45 days.

It was Pakistan who claimed that no attack happened it should have taken journalists the next day. The onus was on Pakistan.

Indian claimed an attack on its installations, we do need to prove affirmatives.

This was your first apple and oranges.

Now the third one you are trying to conflate is not even disputed by us. You said IAF hit us and we said yes we did.

Does it make sense or you will continue with your juvenile rants?
 
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lads lets conclude this dick show lets say

PAF is mightiest in world only ace in the world who shoot down 6 aircraft under 1 min ( u can't even do this in DCS :p)
and Pakistan won all 4 wars against India
in 1971 Pakistan donated east Pakistan to mukti bahini and made a free country called Bangladesh
only 453 soldiers killed in Kargil all other died mujahids
in 2019 feb 27 PAf shoot down 3 ohh no 2 IAF fighters one is SU30mki which crashed in the Indian side of Kashmir and GOI covered it with 5th gen tactics
also in 26th bombing only trees and crow dead no jihadi deads ( still wonder what happened in Kargil stand they revered here ? no jihadi this time? )
in an old saying if a person arguing with a fool u have to slap that person for wasting his precious time and energy for makinhìg understand the earth is not flat ..

ps: seriously admin or mods plz take action
 

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I like Pakistan's version of events, first they not only bombed CRPF bus killing 40 men but later IAF bombed trees and crows in retaliation to which Pakistan shoots down mig 21 and su 30 mki with SOWs on Indian army installations.

The whole Pakistani version revolves around Pakistan doing considerable damage to India while not a single paki asset was lost. And then they released abhinandan because we were begging for him day and night.

And Pakistan accuses us of Bollywood script. Even in Bollywood movies the main lead takes some blows from antagonist. Even they don't show hero beating up villain all the time lol
 

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As per Abhinandan own admission, He was looking for a target. Don't twist his words.
If you had even a little bit of common sense you would not take the words of an captured enemy pilot in captivity
at face value. Under torture and threats anyone will say anything.

Here is a video of a captured American Pilot in the first gulf war in 1991 saying it was wrong for the US to invade the "Peaceful Nation of Iraq", do you honestly believe he is saying that by himself?

 

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If abhinandan was aware he crossed the LOC, why he was not paying heed to Female ground controller desperate calls of return back to base ?

As per Abhinandan own admission, He was looking for a target. Don't twist his words. He hasn't claimed in India on Public tv interview yet that he got lock on F-16. Allow him to come on TV and say the same exact thing
LMAO!! He claimed he was looking for target and then the video got cut and edited. Good job spreading the filthy lies of ISPR.
 

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what is this then ??








Read what I wrote, I stated India probably missed some targets. I also posted pictures of at least one of the main structures that was clearly hit. Also if you missed it, I stated that often terrorists use underground tunnels or camouflage to hid, this is not something I’m making up, there are many videos from Syria where drones or aircraft capture terrorist driving vehicle into hidden underground caves only to be hit with airstrikes. To someone from the outside it would appear nothing got destroyed however, if the entire footage is watching then a different picture would emerge.


Undoubtedly whatever India missed is still more accurate then what Pakistan achieved when it hit all dirt with supposedly H-4 bombs that have infrared homing, because Pakistani geniuses thought that trees would be a good target and give off high IR signatures. It turns out dumb bombs are more accurate then Pakistan “smart” munitions.
 
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Ask your Gafoora: where is the second pilot he was talking about?
How about the Sikh Pilot of No.221 Valiant Squadron? Your comrades posted the video of old man talking about Sikh Pilot. Right? And everyone was so busy finding a bearded "sikh" second pilot in PAF. I found the actual Sikh pilot in 221 Squadron


group captain Harpreet Singh Luthra with Air Marshal Chandrashekharan Hari Kumar.


No wonder Air Marshal Chandrashekharan Hari Kumar got "RETIRED" on 28 February. Exactly 1 day after Pakistan airforce shot down SU-30 MKI.


And another anecdote. Group Captain Harpreet Singh Luthra is an active duty pilot. As per media reports he flew was flying SU-30 in last year Republic day!!!!!


Here is the link mentioning Group Captain flying SU-30 like a young pilot

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...planes-stun-visitors/articleshow/62663723.cms


So. I found your second Pilot. Have you seen him lately btw? Like PAF Pilots who were accused of Shahzuddin or second pilot all came on tv in various shows and disproved indian wild theories.

Where is Group Captain Harpreet ?
 
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