IAF Mi-17V5 Crashed Near Coonoor (Tamil Nadu)-CDS Onboard

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Predicting the future line of conspiracy theorists, Propagandists, lefties, congis:

1. Anyone who gets appointed the next CDS(specially from IAF) would be painted as someone who was involved in this... & hue&cry will be created

2. After any big military deal in near future(especially of Artillery, submarine, fighters)... theories would be woven that "maybe Rawat was against it... so he was eliminated"

Be prepared for above & much much more. It's just a beginning.

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In my opinion... atleast for now... nobody from IAF should become CDS... Reasons: 1. You would be giving enough space for 5th generation warfare(bcoz few months ago Gen Rawat called them support arm)

2. IAF is the force that has resisted indigenization the most... the most import dependent force... with 500 air crashes in last 25 years... who made a joke of Tejas & somewhat of fighter procurement (On the other hand, Dhruv is a success thanks to primarily the army & navy)

A Navy guy should get it... as a reward to that service for its indigenization efforts... & one who could demand a greater budget share for his force.
Continuing with the above... considering upcoming UP elections.

Expect a big terror attack before or most probably "during the election"... change of strategy by Pakis... Narrative: Modi was losing so he "desperately" conducted a false flag.

Pakis & their lackeys on this side who are now cheering the death of Gen Rawat... will spin it as "Maybe he was not ready to execute the false flag operations for winning elections... so Modi & Doval eliminated him"
 
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Bipin Rawat said homosexuality ll nt be tolorated in army . I dint want 2 comment on this . But forced to . He is right . During deployment or war men have to stay in those small bunkers and sleep side by side . Now imagine 2 men doing stuffs by your side ...

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Young men at the age of 19 /20 year join army . A jawan obey his officer like command of God . Now imagine how things can go wrong .

Its complicated in combat forces . Discipline is everything . Management of of attitude , morale decides your victory .

There are other fields like in IB , raw and even in civilian spheres . And no one opposing women or other people . Infact IB prefer women in many cases .
Why target the combat forces . Any blemish in army is blemish on state and its security . Its nt place for social justice etc .
And as he said, "pehle aap log apne mein karo(first lets see the acceptance within the civilian arena) phir hum(then we will assess within the armed forces) dekhenge", which is sensible. Army picks its people from the most rural hinterlands and the most conservative societies all across the country. Let other organizations build these sensitivities first, then we tinker with the Armed forces structure if needed. It is definitely not the social sciences lab for a few academicians and SJWs. A section of Army men has opposed the SC move to decriminalize adultery for relations with married women, such is the prevalent social norm. And you want to make it queer-friendly in a day? Every society has a pace of acceptance, push it beyond it and you have violent revolutions.
 

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Apart from the invaluable loss of CDS Gen Rawat , Brig Lidder loss is also great loss for the armed forces considered a man behind Gen Rawats latest ideas about space force and cyber domains he was scholar soldier with some great foresight on military threats which the country faces . Also he was Defence Assistant to CDS sure they had some great discussion on military modernisation plans and the bottlenecks .

Next CDS has lots of things to cover in short time . Gen Bira tenure was to end by Dec 2022, 12 months from now, so the probable next candidates for CDS would be already be identified by Gen Rawat and PMO . Its just the sudden demise of Giant has left a big vacuum and anyone stepping up next will have big shoes to fill .
his IBG and theatre command vision now has to be executed in a flawless mission .

Second as a personality its going to be tough for any future generals to match Gen Rawat just because people liked him for his originality and getting a COAS who was outspoken like before . Gen VKS is exactly what Gen Rawat is only the ruling govt and their not so comfortable relationship made him keep quiet and make his move out .

Posting as received from a veteran.

I appreciate the love and concern that is being shown for the loss of the brave men that died in the chopper crash in the Nilgiri hills, close to Wellington. The CDS was to arrive with his wife, his team of officers and men to address the staff college course presently being conducted here. The helicopter, the latest in India’s holdings, took off from SULUR air base. The CO of the squadron was flying the helicopter, with hundreds of hours of flying experience and considerable amount of pre reconnaissance of the flight path. Weather at Wellington was clear. The helicopter has to gain immidiate altitude and fly through a deep ravine, to clear the crest to land at the helipad at the Wellington golf club Coonoor. While the crest was being approached there seems to have been fog which in this place is normal in this season, the fog rolls down the hills, that is from the top moves down. No one knows why the helicopter crashed. But let me assure you, there is no truth in all the stories of enemy actions as some jokers are claiming. Please let the airforce conduct its inquiry and analysis.

he commandant DSSC was waiting at the helipad, the communication was in place. When the helicopter did not reach at its designated time. It was learnt that one helicopter had crashed. This information was given to the police by some local civilians.

Immediately the commandant with all the equipment, security and the medical team, rushed to the site. The civilians were already in location. Trying to rescue people from a raging fire. The civilians showed no fear and were like super humans. Each young boy getting into and trying to dowse the fire. Some even having minor burns. Carrying the injured uphill and through dense under brush. The ambulance drivers just swarmed in, some of them just hearing of the crash. Without being asked. The act of selflessness of the civilians of the NILGIRIS will always be saluted by all military men. You might not be in uniform, but the courage and fortitude on display was impeccable and stupendous.

Three soldiers were alive and rescued, two gave up their life after an hour. The brave men fought until the good lord couldn’t bear their suffering anymore and called them to heaven. Group Captain Varun is still battling it out at Military Hospital Wellington. He needs all your prayers. All the bodies were bought to the hospital. Autopsy was conducted. Wellington the Defence services staff college and the Madras Regimental Centre paid their last tributes to the honourable and brave men today on 09 Dec 2021.

Due to bad weather they couldn’t be flown by helicopter. They are being moved by road to Sulur, for their final journey to their loved ones. The CM Tamil Nadu and the Governor Telangana paid homage. The commandant the Defence Services Staff College, addressed all officers and paid tribute. We prayed together, for the souls of those that left us and for strength to their families. We raised our voice to god unitedly for the survivor, who has two small kids. That god be kind and respect our faith.

The military is a life, it isn’t a job. We are on parade 24 x 7. All activities were carried out as normal.

Brave men in uniform are the epitome of honour, discipline and valour. Gen Rawat was of indomitable spirit, sometimes a one man army. He took decisions for the military that were reformative, futuristic and in the interest of the nation. The lady was always full of grace and charm. Brigadier Tony Lidder, was the epitome of charisma and soldiering, Lt Col Harjinder SIngh a soldier and a gentleman. The pilots thorough professionals and the Jawans all brave men, who did their task with pride and honour. Let’s all not give way to speculation and a media that’s only creating unnecessary sensationalism. This is the truth, from ground zero.
-Neil John-
 

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>Havard.
>NITI ayog.

Government Habit of selecting foreign cucks hasn't wavered a bit.
Whatever they do in USA . It has implication on india . Govt needs to think before employing foreign educated people . There is no lack of people in india who have ground level knowledge . These people enjoy their lives /education in a capitalist country and want a divided maxist india based on caste . I see Anyone who is nt a stem graduate with suspicion . Even there they have started entering .
 
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People of Tamil Nadu shouting 'Veera Vanakkam', 'Bharat Mata Ki Jai' and showering flower petals on the convoy carrying the mortal remains of deceased soldiers to Sulur air base, while the few intellectual libtards, pro Naxals, and some anti defence forces handles displaying glee on social media revealing the ugly side of human nature. Some were being plain a**holes, sharing useless oneliners about Karma and justice.


 

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CCP mouthpiece,
I could think of a thousand rebuttals
These fucks aren't worth it, even the Pakistani COAS didn't stoop this low, instead offered his condolences
 

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CCP mouthpiece,
I could think of a thousand rebuttals
These fucks aren't worth it, even the Pakistani COAS didn't stoop this low, instead offered his condolences
In case of the next conflict, I repeat, we should be the ones to go ballistic first. These low-life communist scums must be killed without any regret.
 

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CCP mouthpiece,
I could think of a thousand rebuttals
These fucks aren't worth it, even the Pakistani COAS didn't stoop this low, instead offered his condolences
Pakistanis are at last, forcefully-converted hindus, sikhs and buddhists, bastards born out of rape.

Chinese are pisaachas, they feast on rotten and raw, they don’t originate from decent humans. They have not yet left their animalistic impulses and mindset.
 

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In case of the next conflict, I repeat, we should be the ones to go ballistic first. These low-life communist scums must be killed without any regret.
China will never fight direct war until 2049 except for Taiwan.

But we have to keep one thing in mind from now no one in this world will target china openly.

Taiwanese general targeted china openly he died in helicopter crash in 2020.
Trump targeted china he was thrown out of presidency.
Gen Bipin Rawat also targeted china and helicopter crash happened
 

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