IAF Mi-17V5 Crashed Near Coonoor (Tamil Nadu)-CDS Onboard

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I don’t understand why Indian Armed forces especially IAF keep using these obsolete aircraft that continue to kill thousands of soldiers, pilots every year. It’s like a joke to them.
share some facts about his life and his journey to reaching a 4 star rank
Ya'll Nibbiars if that the call then and other members agrees make a thread dedicated for sharing such stories.
 

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It still sounds to me like a tragic accident of CFIT in adverse visibility. That is likely the fault of the flight crew. An outstanding CDS was lost. I don't see why anyone should resign or equipment be blamed unless the cause of this tragedy is found to be otherwise.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars what should we do.

Stick to your words, don’t sway to and fro.

I don’t understand why Indian Armed forces especially IAF keep using these obsolete aircraft that continue to kill thousands of soldiers, pilots every year. It’s like a joke to them.
Mi-17V5 is a pretty advanced utility/transport helicopter.

For specialised VVIP transport, it is not.
 

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Yeah potentially.
That is your problem. But, life is always full of ups and downs. You learn to overcome the set backs and build over through experience, or you find yourself in the chair in front of psycho-therapist.


The national security fallout from this is going to be terrible.

The fall out w.r.t. national security will be negligible so long his successor is competent one. Most likely Gen. Naravane being the senior most of the chiefs, will take over. He is a fine officer who has been successfully handling the Chinese threats for quite a while as well as has been spearheading all the changes envisioned by late Gen. Rawat in the primary military arm of India. So, we might have lost a visionary, but it is not as if he did not build the system that cannot successfully inherit his legacy.

The IAF cannot come back from this. Their reputation lies in tatters now. It also does not look good for them. Rawat openly criticized IAF for stalling reforms and now this. No matter the spin, things are headed downhill security wise.
IAF's image is hurt. But, forces don't work for images. They learn from a set back and rectify the mistakes to never repeat them. IAF is not going to run for any popularity contest anytime soon. So, a bit of lose of face isn't going to drown it.

There's nothing to spin. Yes, the actual reason might be hushed up from the public eyes, but those who need to know would know it. Security matters aren't supposed to be for general public's consumption anyway. That we have an interest in the matter doesn't preclude us to be in know how of everything.

It is obvious if there are heads to roll, the heads will roll. It is not IAF's fault any more than late CDS'es fault. It is an accident, as far as we are aware till now.

Unless you are trying to imply that IAF 'managed' the accident, IAF's image wouldn't hurt anymore than when the upgraded Mirage-2K crashed even with ace pilots on the stick.


I guess it always takes an extraordinary bloody nose to wake people up and this is one such thing. The corruption, nepotism, bad decision making have all caught up with the IAF. RIP IAF reputation.
I don't know about all the corruption and 'nepotism' that you are talking about. Like any institute in this whole bloody world, obviously IAF cannot be free of its own share of bad apples. But, how does it link to this accident is beyond me.

Every aircraft that flies in the air, risks falling down due to the law of physics. Our bad luck that CDS has become a victim of one such incident, but you cannot be sure when the fat lady will sing your name.
 
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I don’t understand why Indian Armed forces especially IAF keep using these obsolete aircraft that continue to kill thousands of soldiers, pilots every year. It’s like a joke to them.
Russian tech has become obselete especially their engine not reliable. This platform is not the ideal one for VVIP transport. However need to wait until the full reports are out
 

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Do what shah jinesh said
Talk about his life, inspiring things he did or interesting stories about him. We should celebrate the life of this Great Personality. Nation’s first CDS
Absolutely, staying quiet is not an option- otherwise, you will have @PSFAERO and other friends from across the border fill in the vacuum & drive the narrative. The no tweeting tweet may be deleted and apt homage may be paid to all the departed veers.
 

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Absolutely, staying quiet is not an option- otherwise, you will have @PSFAERO and other friends from across the border fill in the vacuum & drive the narrative. The no tweeting tweet may be deleted and apt homage may be paid to all the departed veers.
Yes , unka suwaron ka abhi se chalu hai
 

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