HAL Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) and Light Observation Helicopter (LOH)

[Bleh]

 

[Pazhassiraja]

Is there a plan to weaponize LUH like the Kiowa Warrior?

 

[Bleh]

Is there a plan to weaponize LUH like the Kiowa Warrior?

Nothing as of now...

 

[Akula]

Nothing as of now...

But can act as a light attack helicopter with gun or rocket pod.

 

[Bleh]

But can act as a light attack helicopter with gun or rocket pod.

We had HAL Lancer for high-altitude ops... Now LCH can do that on its own. So requirement for such a light attach helicopter isn't really there.

And for acting as fire-support gunship for SF helodrops too, we've got Rudra covering that.

 

[WolfPack86]

Indigenous light choppers get go-ahead, delivery in 2022
India is going ahead with an indigenous light utility helicopter (LUH) after it proved it worth during high altitude operations, including at the Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) airstrip on the China border. The defence ministry has given the go ahead for placing an order for 12 of the choppers, with developer and manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics NSE -1.37 % Limited (HAL) expected to deliver the first by August next year.

The LUH is a homegrown success story, having demonstrated its capability of operating in all kinds of environments, with a focus on high altitude missions that are essential for maintaining troops on the Pakistan and China border.

HAL Chairman R Madhavan told ET that the letter of acceptance for 12 helicopters – six each for the army and air force – has been received and work has started to produce the aircraft. “The LoA has been received and we plan to deliver the first helicopter by next year. The production facility at Tumkur is ready and we will manufacture the choppers there,” he said.


The LUH order is a boost for the Make in India initiative, given that the chopper has been fully designed and developed in house by HAL, borrowing on the expertise gained by older platforms like the Advanced Light Helicopter.

While 12 helicopters are to be ordered in the first lot, the expected requirement of the LUH within the services is pegged at 185. In addition, India and Russia have also been negotiating a deal for the Kamov Ka 226 helicopters for the army and air force to fulfil the large needs of such type of aircraft.

The LUH will progressively replace the Chetak and Cheetah helicopters that operate at impossible heights on the border, including the Siachen glacier. Given its new design, the LUH can carry more than eight times the meaningful payload to the highest helipads in the world, as compared to the Cheetahs.

The indigenous chopper has gone through rigorous trials and tests by the services, including at forward helipads on the border. These include test missions from Leh to both the China and Pakistan borders. It has also demonstrated a flawless flight from Bangalore to Leh, a distance of over 3000 km, in three days without any servicing issues.

Defencenews.in

 

[samsaptaka]

Indigenous light choppers get go-ahead, delivery in 2022
India is going ahead with an indigenous light utility helicopter (LUH) after it proved it worth during high altitude operations, including at the Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) airstrip on the China border. The defence ministry has given the go ahead for placing an order for 12 of the choppers, with developer and manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics NSE -1.37 % Limited (HAL) expected to deliver the first by August next year.

The LUH is a homegrown success story, having demonstrated its capability of operating in all kinds of environments, with a focus on high altitude missions that are essential for maintaining troops on the Pakistan and China border.

HAL Chairman R Madhavan told ET that the letter of acceptance for 12 helicopters – six each for the army and air force – has been received and work has started to produce the aircraft. “The LoA has been received and we plan to deliver the first helicopter by next year. The production facility at Tumkur is ready and we will manufacture the choppers there,” he said.


The LUH order is a boost for the Make in India initiative, given that the chopper has been fully designed and developed in house by HAL, borrowing on the expertise gained by older platforms like the Advanced Light Helicopter.

While 12 helicopters are to be ordered in the first lot, the expected requirement of the LUH within the services is pegged at 185. In addition, India and Russia have also been negotiating a deal for the Kamov Ka 226 helicopters for the army and air force to fulfil the large needs of such type of aircraft.

The LUH will progressively replace the Chetak and Cheetah helicopters that operate at impossible heights on the border, including the Siachen glacier. Given its new design, the LUH can carry more than eight times the meaningful payload to the highest helipads in the world, as compared to the Cheetahs.

The indigenous chopper has gone through rigorous trials and tests by the services, including at forward helipads on the border. These include test missions from Leh to both the China and Pakistan borders. It has also demonstrated a flawless flight from Bangalore to Leh, a distance of over 3000 km, in three days without any servicing issues.

Defencenews.in

Only 12 ? Whereas kamov order (if it goes through) gets an outright 226 ? Why this dastardly second hand treatment for our own ? Piecemeal orders , endless trials... Indegenous MIC be damned..

 

[ezsasa]

Only 12 ? Whereas kamov order (if it goes through) gets an outright 226 ? Why this dastardly second hand treatment for our own ? Piecemeal orders , endless trials... Indegenous MIC be damned..

This of this order of 12 as sample testing from a new production line in a new factory.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Only 12 ? Whereas kamov order (if it goes through) gets an outright 226 ? Why this dastardly second hand treatment for our own ? Piecemeal orders , endless trials... Indegenous MIC be damned..

Follow on order will be placed for 185 after initial AON 12 will be completed. Also kamov 226T will be manufactured 250+
LUH single engine light body
Kamov 226T - double engine Flexi body structure
Both will be inducted in numbers as initial requirement for 500+ copter was made and only kamov was selected thanks to the delay in price negotiation LUH made its way and bagged half of its numbers... In future we can build as much as we can LUH is indegineous whereas Ka will be manufactured for exports after initial orders is met

 

[arkos]

Ka 226 in Syria (0:10)

 

[ezsasa]

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Ka 226 in Syria (0:10)

wrong thread... post these in appropriate thread..

 

[bhramos]

 

[Starlight]

We should have a Notar helicopter design for all our helicopters.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

We should have a Notar helicopter design for all our helicopters.

I just read Wikipedia of NOTAR, it says it replaces tail rotor with a fan inside the tail boom whose low pressure high volume airflow is directed out from:-
1.) Coanda vents (utilizing Coanda effect deflecting main rotor downwash across the bottom of tailboom and off to one side to produce counter torque and lift)
2.) Directional thruster at end of tail boom (for yaw control)

First time I read about Coanda effect was when I was reading about a failed American attempt to create a literal flying saucer. From what I can see, this arrangement would limit the flight envelope, particularly at higher speeds when the effectiveness of relying on the boundary layer is reduced.

Are there any large helicopters flying with NOTAR till now? And why do you think is the tradeoff between NOTAR and a conventional tail rotor worth it?

 

[Starlight]

I just read Wikipedia of NOTAR, it says it replaces tail rotor with a fan inside the tail boom whose low pressure high volume airflow is directed out from:-
1.) Coanda vents (utilizing Coanda effect deflecting main rotor downwash across the bottom of tailboom and off to one side to produce counter torque and lift)
2.) Directional thruster at end of tail boom (for yaw control)

First time I read about Coanda effect was when I was reading about a failed American attempt to create a literal flying saucer. From what I can see, this arrangement would limit the flight envelope, particularly at higher speeds when the effectiveness of relying on the boundary layer is reduced.

Are there any large helicopters flying with NOTAR till now? And why do you think is the tradeoff between NOTAR and a conventional tail rotor worth it?

About Notar helicopters, the design is cleaner compared to a tail rotary system. Obvious advantage is noise reduction, just like a Kamov, lesser external moving parts for an easier turn around time and while flying, giving the craft unparelled pilot orientation with better on field control and giving the pilot higher confidence for maneuverability.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

About Notar helicopters, the design is cleaner compared to a tail rotary system. Obvious advantage is noise reduction, just like a Kamov, lesser external moving parts for an easier turn around time and while flying, giving the craft unparelled pilot orientation with better on field control and giving the pilot higher confidence for maneuverability.

My point is how effective the Coanda effect will be at high speeds when helicopter moves forward and how effective it will be for heavier helicopters.

 

[Starlight]

My point is how effective the Coanda effect will be at high speeds when helicopter moves forward and how effective it will be for heavier helicopters.

The same, only quieter and safer.

 

[Pash]

Army to get indigenous light helicopters by Dec. 2022

Lt. Gen. AK Suri takes over as DG, Army Aviation

www.thehindu.com

Indian Army to Get First Batch of LUH in 2022 - ELE Times

The Army, which is facing a huge shortage of light utility helicopters with the ageing fleet of Cheetah and Chetak helicopters, will receive

www.eletimes.com

 

[Flying Dagger]

The same, only quieter and safer.

Use a Fenestron and it's safe enough.

Better have a compact design like Kamov and coaxial twin rotor .

 

[fire starter]