HAL Advanced Light Helicopter Dhruv

[BlackViking]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/army-chopper-with-3-on-board-crashes-in-j-4003785

 

[samsaptaka]

Btw Appaches are grounded last week in America after consecutive crashes and in India it still flying and no news about grounding

Nothing surprising from import army...

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/army-chopper-with-3-on-board-crashes-in-j-4003785

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Seems like bad terrain caused problems, may not necessarily have been caused by a technical problem

 

[BlackViking]

Nothing surprising from import army...


Seems like bad terrain caused problems, may not necessarily have been caused by a technical problem

Apparently one of the crew refused taking first aid.

 

[flanker99]

Nothing surprising from import army...


Seems like bad terrain caused problems, may not necessarily have been caused by a technical problem

Nonsense pilots called atc to inform them about technical fault before looking for place to land ...time members looked at problems of indigenous platforms aswell instead of always cooking conspiracies

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[samsaptaka]

Nonsense pilots called atc to inform them about technical fault before looking for place to land ...time members looked at problems of indigenous platforms aswell instead of always cooking conspiracies

Ok, but why not same standards for imported maal ? Were Mi17 grounded after CDS crash ?

 

[flanker99]

Ok, but why not same standards for imported maal ? Were Mi17 grounded after CDS crash ?

Mi17 's crash was weather related and not mechanical in nature hope that answers ur questions

 

[Azaad]

India’s Dhruv chopper needs critical safety upgrade: Panel

A government regulatory body has called for a design review of a "safety-critical system" on the Dhruv advanced light helicopter

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[mist_consecutive]

India’s Dhruv chopper needs critical safety upgrade: Panel

A government regulatory body has called for a design review of a "safety-critical system" on the Dhruv advanced light helicopter

www.hindustantimes.com

CEMILAC has scheduled a design inquiry, much required!

 

[jai jaganath]

CEMILAC has scheduled a design inquiry, much required!

It might take 6-12 months to design or check its issue of some sort of rods that's what I understood from long article
Until then will alh be operated

 

[mist_consecutive]

It might take 6-12 months that's what I understood from long article
Until then will alh be operated

ALH has almost become the backbone of tri-services, we cannot completely ground all of them. But the good thing is it is not brushed under the carpet by HAL blaming it on the user's incompetence like the last time.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Small clip of just before the crash

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

ALH has almost become the backbone of tri-services, we cannot completely ground all of them. But the good thing is it is not brushed under the carpet by HAL blaming it on the user's incompetence like the last time.

 

[vishnugupt]

Basically UN Generals are demanding Iron man type suit which is 100% maintenance free and self repairing capacity.

 

[jai jaganath]

Folks few queries
As per report this entire issue solving might take 6-12 months which is good but
1)if we face a war like situation then what will do when such a large fleet would be grounded
2)what's gonna happen to future prospects to alh which would be ordered by navy and iaf
3)report says lch has also been grounded so there might be further delay in its induction
4)what about iaf extra 50 Rudra orders which they decided in 2021-22 if I remember rightly
5)how are crashed alh be replaced will they give further orders in future for it

 

[mist_consecutive]

Yes, so the control rods are assembled by HAL, the maintenance crew, or both ?

It is easy to blame either side. HAL can say this is not our problem, the maintenance crew is incompetent, and the maintenance crew can say HAL has made servicing/keeping service worthy impossible.

Basically UN Generals are demanding Iron man type suit which is 100% maintenance free and self repairing capacity.

Or poor UN maintenance crews are being asked to service an Iron Man suite that requires an air-conditioned and dust-free hanger, specialized tools, and a lot of time before being airworthy?

 

[vishnugupt]

Folks few queries
As per report this entire issue solving might take 6-12 months which is good but
1)if we face a war like situation then what will do when such a large fleet would be grounded
2)what's gonna happen to future prospects to alh which would be ordered by navy and iaf
3)report says lch has also been grounded so there might be further delay in its induction
4)what about iaf extra 50 Rudra orders which they decided in 2021-22 if I remember rightly
5)how are crashed alh be replaced will they give further orders in future for it

Don't worry, Kutiya ko kitni bhi mithai khilao fir bhi vo dustbin chategi.

After 35 years, UN Generals suddenly came to know ALH has design flaws. If this was the case, then UN Generals would never have allowed LCH/LUH off the ground.

नाच ना जाने आंगन टेढ़ा.
UN Generals have long habits of blaming others as they are always clueless about causes of accident. Their thousands of Court of inquiry always yielded absolute zero.

UN airforce had blamed SU 30MKI's engine, ejection seat, FBW, switch panel, display etc. for its crashes but none of these faults were found in other Su30s around the world.

 

[vishnugupt]

Or poor UN maintenance crews are being asked to service an Iron Man suite that requires an air-conditioned and dust-free hanger, specialized tools, and a lot of time before being airworthy?

No, all we want from Carrom board warriors is get down on floor, open the eyes and learn of maintain a machine.

 

[Tshering22]

CEMILAC has scheduled a design inquiry, much required!

The design is the same as the MBB BK-117 from Germany, which was a proven design. Dhruv has been built on as an improvement on that design but the fundamentals have remained the same.

As our exports are now getting noticed, this could be some industrial sabotage. It would be prudent for the journalists to be prevented from reporting this as the import lobby would be baying for this kind of news to kill all domestic programs.

Meanwhile, the IAF and HAL maintenance teams need to be investigated to determine whether we have a foreign-paid saboteur among the ranks. Call me paranoid, but this is what seems to be the case.

As for the other crashes, these happen in very difficult terrains that Western countries don't operate in. People in India have hardly any idea how difficult the Sikkim and Arunachal terrain is. They think that it is like flying out of an airfield in Hyderabad or Mumbai.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Rods have been failing due to fatigue - a known issue since 2019. This year. 2023, the serrated washer placement causing rods to fail was brought out in public. But those washers cannot be checked for placement because they are in an area which is not accessible

Some people just love to bash forces. I should remind them, your so-called UN genols you so passionately hate, don't service these parts, they fly in them.

If they are sabotaging/intentionally trying to break them (which some illiterate fanboys so passionately theorize), your genrols will be playing with their own life.