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'Swallowing 8kg of mutton everyday; where's the fitness?': Wasim Akram lashes out after Pakistan's 'embarrassing' loss
Wasim Akram did not hold back after Pakistan were handed a shock defeat by Afghanistan in their World Cup 2023 match in Chennai on Monday.
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Wasim Akram did not hold back after Pakistan were handed a shock defeat by Afghanistan in their World Cup 2023 match in Chennai on Monday.
The great Wasim Akram was part of a Pakistan set-up which used to be a force to reckon with. Sure, they were not the greatest cricket playing team in the tournament but it would consistently challenge top teams. From winning the World Cup in 1992 to reaching the final of the 1999 edition in England and clinching numerous bilateral and tri series in Sharjah, Pakistan were no pushovers, and regularly took the opposition to their limits.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said now. The current unit playing the World Cup in India under captain Babar Azam could well qualify for being the worst-ever team to play the prestigious quadrennial event. The players are simply too one dimensional, the captain and his ideas lack spark and to make matters worse, the team has suffered a hat-trick of defeats, most recent being a drubbing just last evening against Afghanistan in Chennai on Monday. Drubbing because Pakistan may have taken the game to the penultimate over, but to lose by eight wickets is a huge reality check.
The batters did well to post 282 on the board but Pakistan's bowling – which has a rich legacy and history – was just toothless. Without Naseem Shah, there is no life left in the pace-bowling line-up despite the presence of Shaheen Afridi. Haris Rauf has been another huge disappointment, leaking runs at will. But that is not even the most appalling part. Pakistan's field last evening was another example of why so many memes and jokes come at the expense of it. They were outrageous on the field, with the ball slipping between legs, fingers and what not.
Fielding is directly proportional to a player's fitness levels and that is where Akram says the team needs to have a good, hard look at themselves in the mirror. Reflecting on the result, a miffed Akram couldn't help but vent out his disappointment, frustration – call it whatever you want – in giving Pakistan a serious dressing down as their hopes of qualifying for the World Cup hangs in the balance. After five matches, Pakistan are placed fifth in the points table with 4 points and not only need to win their remaining four league games, but also depend on the outcomes of other teams to stay alive.
"It was embarrassing today. To reach 280-odd losing just two wickets is pretty big. Wet pitch or no, look at the fielding, the fitness levels. We've been screaming for the last 3 weeks that these players haven't undergone a fitness test in the last two years. If I start taking individual names, their faces will drop. Looks like these guys are eating 8 kilos of mutton everyday. Should there not be tests," a visibly frustrated Akram said on A Sports.
"Professionally you guys are getting paid, playing for your country. There has to be a certain criteria. Misbah, when he was coach, had that criteria. Players hated him but it worked. Fielding is all about fitness and that's where we are lacking. Now we have reached that same position, where we will pray for ifs and buts to happen."
Akram then went on to call a spade a spade. He targeted the current PCB regime, blaming it for making rash decisions as opposed to the one under former chairman PCB. Under him and the previous coaching staff including Saqlain Mushtaq, Mohammad Yousuf and others, Pakistan reached the final of the T20 World Cup last year in Australia. After Ramiz was sacked, Najam Sethi was given the post as interim chairman before Zaka Ashraf was appointed head for four months. And the result is for everyone to see. Not qualifying for the Asia Cup final and now this, Pakistan are all over the place as Akram confronted the PCB with some hard-hitting questions.
"We were excited we were No. 1 but man, come on! Last 6-8 months, we had one chairman. And once he came on board for 3-4 months, he straightaway changed the coaching staff. We reached the final last year. But out of the blue he came and shuffled things around. 'Get him out, throw this person out. Get your own guys in'. You guys are seniors, elder to me, but next time onward, please… whoever becomes the chairman, think about the nation. Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani had worked so hard to get the high-performance centre together and build a system. They changed that too and made it into a National Coaching Centre. Not a single camp has been held there for 8 months. Why do you have to make unnecessary changes? Just leave it," Akram went on.
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Swallowing 8kg of mutton everyday; where's the fitness?': Wasim Akram lashes out after Pakistan's 'embarrassing' loss'Swallowing 8kg of mutton everyday; where's the fitness?': Wasim Akram lashes out after Pakistan's 'embarrassing' loss
Wasim Akram did not hold back after Pakistan were handed a shock defeat by Afghanistan in their World Cup 2023 match in Chennai on Monday.
Wasim Akram did not hold back after Pakistan were handed a shock defeat by Afghanistan in their World Cup 2023 match in Chennai on Monday.
The great Wasim Akram was part of a Pakistan set-up which used to be a force to reckon with. Sure, they were not the greatest cricket playing team in the tournament but it would consistently challenge top teams. From winning the World Cup in 1992 to reaching the final of the 1999 edition in England and clinching numerous bilateral and tri series in Sharjah, Pakistan were no pushovers, and regularly took the opposition to their limits.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said now. The current unit playing the World Cup in India under captain Babar Azam could well qualify for being the worst-ever team to play the prestigious quadrennial event. The players are simply too one dimensional, the captain and his ideas lack spark and to make matters worse, the team has suffered a hat-trick of defeats, most recent being a drubbing just last evening against Afghanistan in Chennai on Monday. Drubbing because Pakistan may have taken the game to the penultimate over, but to lose by eight wickets is a huge reality check.
The batters did well to post 282 on the board but Pakistan's bowling – which has a rich legacy and history – was just toothless. Without Naseem Shah, there is no life left in the pace-bowling line-up despite the presence of Shaheen Afridi. Haris Rauf has been another huge disappointment, leaking runs at will. But that is not even the most appalling part. Pakistan's field last evening was another example of why so many memes and jokes come at the expense of it. They were outrageous on the field, with the ball slipping between legs, fingers and what not.
Fielding is directly proportional to a player's fitness levels and that is where Akram says the team needs to have a good, hard look at themselves in the mirror. Reflecting on the result, a miffed Akram couldn't help but vent out his disappointment, frustration – call it whatever you want – in giving Pakistan a serious dressing down as their hopes of qualifying for the World Cup hangs in the balance. After five matches, Pakistan are placed fifth in the points table with 4 points and not only need to win their remaining four league games, but also depend on the outcomes of other teams to stay alive.
"It was embarrassing today. To reach 280-odd losing just two wickets is pretty big. Wet pitch or no, look at the fielding, the fitness levels. We've been screaming for the last 3 weeks that these players haven't undergone a fitness test in the last two years. If I start taking individual names, their faces will drop. Looks like these guys are eating 8 kilos of mutton everyday. Should there not be tests," a visibly frustrated Akram said on A Sports.
"Professionally you guys are getting paid, playing for your country. There has to be a certain criteria. Misbah, when he was coach, had that criteria. Players hated him but it worked. Fielding is all about fitness and that's where we are lacking. Now we have reached that same position, where we will pray for ifs and buts to happen."
Akram then went on to call a spade a spade. He targeted the current PCB regime, blaming it for making rash decisions as opposed to the one under former chairman PCB. Under him and the previous coaching staff including Saqlain Mushtaq, Mohammad Yousuf and others, Pakistan reached the final of the T20 World Cup last year in Australia. After Ramiz was sacked, Najam Sethi was given the post as interim chairman before Zaka Ashraf was appointed head for four months. And the result is for everyone to see. Not qualifying for the Asia Cup final and now this, Pakistan are all over the place as Akram confronted the PCB with some hard-hitting questions.
"We were excited we were No. 1 but man, come on! Last 6-8 months, we had one chairman. And once he came on board for 3-4 months, he straightaway changed the coaching staff. We reached the final last year. But out of the blue he came and shuffled things around. 'Get him out, throw this person out. Get your own guys in'. You guys are seniors, elder to me, but next time onward, please… whoever becomes the chairman, think about the nation. Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani had worked so hard to get the high-performance centre together and build a system. They changed that too and made it into a National Coaching Centre. Not a single camp has been held there for 8 months. Why do you have to make unnecessary changes? Just leave it," Akram went on.
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Civilisation hasn't reached Tamil Nadu yet"
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Civilisation hasn't reached Tamil Nadu yet"
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He said jaise Chamar nahi lagte... Chamar is a lower cast in socity. It shouldn't be surprised because Pakistani and Momins in general are deeply racist and cast discriminators. Hindus were not divided on cast line so bad before Islam.
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When I read articles like this, it just reaffirms to me how little these people actually know.
https://www.economist.com/asia/2023...-and-worse?utm_medium=social-media.content.np
Asia | Banyan
India-Pakistan relations are becoming more marginal and worse
In cricket and otherwise, India is leaving its old rivalry behind
image: lan truong
Oct 19th 2023
Listen to this story. Enjoy more audio and podcasts on iOS or Android.
In the build-up to India’s World Cup clash with Pakistan in Ahmedabad on October 14th, Indian news anchors spoke of “the greatest rivalry”. For once they were not exaggerating. Cricket contests between the South Asian giants have been their main interaction off the battlefield for three-quarters of a century. Into them each has poured subcontinental volumes of love and hate, nationalist chest-beating, aching for peace, addiction to the fray—and the wholehearted commitment of two great and fascinatingly contrasting cricket cultures. Even for cricket ignoramuses, India-Pakistan bouts are an essential window onto South Asian politics and culture. What, then, to make of the Ahmedabad match, which was attended by Banyan and ended in an easy Indian victory?
Mostly that the rivalry has become extremely lopsided, in cricket as otherwise. India’s win was its eighth on the trot over Pakistan in World Cups. And it was significantly crushing. The contest was held in the recently opened Narendra Modi Cricket Stadium, the cricket world’s biggest, and attended by over 100,000 raucously partisan Indian fans. It was an illustration of the demographic and economic heft powering India’s rise in cricket and beyond. Pakistan’s players, only a couple of whom had visited India before, visibly wilted in the arena.
This denotes a big change. In the decades after British India’s bloody partition, Pakistan outperformed India off and on the field. Its gdp per head was 50% more than India’s in 1970. Its cricketers, led by dashing fast-bowlers such as Imran Khan, beat India’s much more often than they lost to them. But Indians are now much richer than Pakistanis, and their cricketers among the world’s wealthiest and best, while Pakistan’s are struggling. Three decades of jihadist violence have made foreign sports teams afraid to visit Pakistan, giving it near-pariah status. By banning Pakistanis from its lucrative domestic tournaments, India has compounded the problem. The team trounced in Ahmedabad had no star approaching the stature of Mr Khan (a great cricket captain, though an awful prime minister, who is now in prison).
Pakistan’s relative decline has changed the bilateral relationship. Contemptuous of its neighbour, and now globally minded, India has downgraded it. The days of expanded transport links and people-to-people exchanges, generally for cricket games, are over. Indian diplomats spend more time on Bangladesh than Pakistan—never mind China and America, the great powers India increasingly counts itself among. “No one is thinking about Pakistan,” says an official in Delhi. Save in one regard: India’s fear of Pakistani terrorism.
That most divisive facet of the relationship has become more dominant as others, including economic ties and cultural affinity, have fallen away. This helps explain why polls show Indian public sentiment towards Pakistan growing more hostile, even as the country fades from view. India’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, which has risen by peddling fear of Muslims, has encouraged this. Its supporters are the most hostile of all.
All these changes were evident at the match in Ahmedabad—the sixth India-Pakistan clash your columnist has witnessed on the subcontinent and by far the most depressing. The first encounters were during an uplifting Indian tour of Pakistan in 2004, part of a promising peace process. India’s cricketers and thousands of Indian fans were embraced by Pakistani crowds as long-lost cousins. By contrast, there were no Pakistani fans in Ahmedabad, because India had refused to give them visas. And the Indian fans Banyan spoke with expressed only disdain for their neighbours. Asked what they knew of Pakistanis, three students from Mumbai said only “terrorism”. “Everyone hates them,” a middle-aged man, listening in from the row in front, volunteered. Meanwhile, the crowd screamed abuse at the visiting players. After one, Mohammad Rizwan, was dismissed, jubilant Indians chanted a Hindu victory cry, “Jai Shri Ram”, at him.
India-Pakistan cricket has been charged in the past. But never has the hostility seemed so unidirectional and detached from geopolitical reality. The security threat to India from Pakistan, though real, is diminished. The potential benefits of co-operation between the world’s most populous country and, soon enough, its third-most populous are growing as environmental and population pressures bite. Yet the prospects of realising them, in cricket and otherwise, have never looked more remote. Pakistan is unable and India unwilling. ■7
https://www.economist.com/asia/2023...-and-worse?utm_medium=social-media.content.np
Asia | Banyan
India-Pakistan relations are becoming more marginal and worse
In cricket and otherwise, India is leaving its old rivalry behind
image: lan truong
Oct 19th 2023
Listen to this story. Enjoy more audio and podcasts on iOS or Android.
In the build-up to India’s World Cup clash with Pakistan in Ahmedabad on October 14th, Indian news anchors spoke of “the greatest rivalry”. For once they were not exaggerating. Cricket contests between the South Asian giants have been their main interaction off the battlefield for three-quarters of a century. Into them each has poured subcontinental volumes of love and hate, nationalist chest-beating, aching for peace, addiction to the fray—and the wholehearted commitment of two great and fascinatingly contrasting cricket cultures. Even for cricket ignoramuses, India-Pakistan bouts are an essential window onto South Asian politics and culture. What, then, to make of the Ahmedabad match, which was attended by Banyan and ended in an easy Indian victory?
Mostly that the rivalry has become extremely lopsided, in cricket as otherwise. India’s win was its eighth on the trot over Pakistan in World Cups. And it was significantly crushing. The contest was held in the recently opened Narendra Modi Cricket Stadium, the cricket world’s biggest, and attended by over 100,000 raucously partisan Indian fans. It was an illustration of the demographic and economic heft powering India’s rise in cricket and beyond. Pakistan’s players, only a couple of whom had visited India before, visibly wilted in the arena.
This denotes a big change. In the decades after British India’s bloody partition, Pakistan outperformed India off and on the field. Its gdp per head was 50% more than India’s in 1970. Its cricketers, led by dashing fast-bowlers such as Imran Khan, beat India’s much more often than they lost to them. But Indians are now much richer than Pakistanis, and their cricketers among the world’s wealthiest and best, while Pakistan’s are struggling. Three decades of jihadist violence have made foreign sports teams afraid to visit Pakistan, giving it near-pariah status. By banning Pakistanis from its lucrative domestic tournaments, India has compounded the problem. The team trounced in Ahmedabad had no star approaching the stature of Mr Khan (a great cricket captain, though an awful prime minister, who is now in prison).
Pakistan’s relative decline has changed the bilateral relationship. Contemptuous of its neighbour, and now globally minded, India has downgraded it. The days of expanded transport links and people-to-people exchanges, generally for cricket games, are over. Indian diplomats spend more time on Bangladesh than Pakistan—never mind China and America, the great powers India increasingly counts itself among. “No one is thinking about Pakistan,” says an official in Delhi. Save in one regard: India’s fear of Pakistani terrorism.
That most divisive facet of the relationship has become more dominant as others, including economic ties and cultural affinity, have fallen away. This helps explain why polls show Indian public sentiment towards Pakistan growing more hostile, even as the country fades from view. India’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, which has risen by peddling fear of Muslims, has encouraged this. Its supporters are the most hostile of all.
All these changes were evident at the match in Ahmedabad—the sixth India-Pakistan clash your columnist has witnessed on the subcontinent and by far the most depressing. The first encounters were during an uplifting Indian tour of Pakistan in 2004, part of a promising peace process. India’s cricketers and thousands of Indian fans were embraced by Pakistani crowds as long-lost cousins. By contrast, there were no Pakistani fans in Ahmedabad, because India had refused to give them visas. And the Indian fans Banyan spoke with expressed only disdain for their neighbours. Asked what they knew of Pakistanis, three students from Mumbai said only “terrorism”. “Everyone hates them,” a middle-aged man, listening in from the row in front, volunteered. Meanwhile, the crowd screamed abuse at the visiting players. After one, Mohammad Rizwan, was dismissed, jubilant Indians chanted a Hindu victory cry, “Jai Shri Ram”, at him.
India-Pakistan cricket has been charged in the past. But never has the hostility seemed so unidirectional and detached from geopolitical reality. The security threat to India from Pakistan, though real, is diminished. The potential benefits of co-operation between the world’s most populous country and, soon enough, its third-most populous are growing as environmental and population pressures bite. Yet the prospects of realising them, in cricket and otherwise, have never looked more remote. Pakistan is unable and India unwilling. ■7
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Somewhat better than the others because at least the author acknowledge what Pakistan is doing to India is terrorism.
Desperate to leave | The Express Tribune
Half a million Pakistanis left the country in pursuit of economic opportunities abroad in just first quarter of 2023
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Ma'shallah, Europeans will welcome them with open arms!Desperate to leave | The Express Tribune
Half a million Pakistanis left the country in pursuit of economic opportunities abroad in just first quarter of 2023tribune.com.pk
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