warhead weight 150Lbs, the klevok D-2's warhead weight is almost comparable to this with 125.6 lbs, extra sources told me of the two D-2 patents one of them can be used for air to ground with foldable wings, you can stuff a shit load of these with a stealth profile in your aircraft.
I shouldn't have to explain something so obvious like this
Let me give you an example:
AGM-86 warhead is 908- 1362 kg, the whole missile is 1430 kg
Kinzhal warhead is 480-700 kg, the whole missile is 3800 kg
Can you figure you why Kinzhal is heavier but carry lighter warhead than AGM-86?
Still no?, let try with another example
AGM-130 warhead is 907 kg, the whole missile is 1323 kg
KEPD 350 warhead is 481 kg, the whole missile is 1400 kg
Can you figure out why KEPD 350 is heavier but carry a lighter warhead than AGM-130?
Because to fly long distance or to fly fast, you need more fuel. The further your missile fly, the faster it go, the more fuel fuel it will need. And that extra amount of fuel is what drive up the size and weight of the missile. ARRW is a strategic weapon that can fly more than 1000 km and reach speed of Mach 10, so of course it will be much bigger than theoretical klevok D2 which has range around 100 km and top speed at most around Mach 5
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...nch-followed-by-gliding-flight_fig5_268469692 The problem with HGV also is that they lose speed after the re-entry, the Klevok-D2 has a ramjet with mach 5.62 speeds during its last 40 seconds with a lower altitude profile for almost the same warhead weight and the speed stays constant because of motor until it hits its targets. HGVs just seem to vertically up and down in maneuvers while thrust vectoring ballistic missiles and air breathing missiles can change in all directions. Kinzhal has 500kg warhead, way longer distance, more directions for maneuverability.... The true beauty of the D-2 is they bumped up the warhead weight twice by pushing more weight in the back while keeping the same original diameter size and length meaning you have a stupidly small missile that is barely noticeable by radar, I don't even think it is possible for a radar to know the D-2 existed when your getting targeted because of its RCS from size.
Firstly, hypersonic boost glider doesn't just go up and down, they can maneuver in yaw axis as well. Boost glider are not as maneuver as scramjet missile but they will maneuver better than any ballistic missile with side thruster since boost glider can rely on the aerodynamic lift, which is pretty high when you fly fast.
Secondly, Klevok-D2 ramjet engine only has 12 kg of fuel and can operate for a maximum of 42 seconds, even if we assume that it move at Mach 6 for the whole 42 seconds duration, that is only equal to 85 km in range, which is pathetic compared to the range of ARRW which is more than 1000 km, heck, it does not even match the range of simple rocket missile like AARGM-ER which top out at 300 km. And that was a very generous estimate for Klevok-D2 because we actually assume that it can fly at maximum speed with minimum fuel flow rate. Which is in fact not realistic at all. In reality, fuel flow and speed are proportional,so for any given missile or plane, if you fly faster , you will consume more fuel. So the maximum operation time of 42 seconds is likely for much slower cruising speed at around Mach 2.5-Mach 3, which mean realistically speaking, Klevok-D2 will spend around 42 km at Mach 3, then it will decelerate , and at much faster rate than ARRW (or any boost glider) since it fly at low altitude where the air is thick. Of course any comparison between , Klevok-D2 and ARRW are already very silly given that they are not even in the same class in term of range, speed, targets, weight
Thirdly, Kinzhal carry bigger warhead? sure, Kinzhal has longer range? sure. It is kinda obvious given that Kinzhal is 41% heavier than ARRW. I don't think you realize that 41% heavier is a lot, for example, AIM-120 is 152 kg , AIM-132 ASRAAM is 88 kg, that mean AMRAAM is only 43% heavier than ASRAAM, but one of them can even reach 180 km while the other one hardly reach 30 km in range.
But Kinzhal won't be more agile than ARRW, that for certain (I will explain at the end)
Try to Imagine paying 13 million dollars for this, having a 926kms launch distance meaning you will have to be very lucky avoiding any fighter aircrafts that are currently in the air in case you run into them or attack and they immediately go after you. There is no way that you would not be getting noticed by satellites while you take off heading to your adversary's territory. Only good news is that the size of this missile is a little smaller at 5.9 meter length with 24 inch diameter than the kinzhal, but not even the option to go nuclear warhead? Talks of putting it on fighter aircrafts. Its also only used for fixed targets(cant confirm this with D2) while the kinzhal is for mobile targets like ships. stealth, fighter or giant ass aircraft carrying that thing will make you glow beautifully on radar if another aircraft happened to have some nice BVR missiles. Cant do this on land if enemies have a huge territory with OTH radars seeing a target 1000s of kilometers in which command will send fighter aircrafts your way. Even if you are in NATO territory satellites and OTH radars will watch your aircraft leave territory runway and give strike coordinates to that location in case there was a sudden change like plasma on speeds where ionization in the atmosphere would be noticed by HF frequencies that a hypersonic target is heading their way. Better to do it at a farther location launching a Kinzhal where your adversary will have a lesser reach to strike back which depends but better chances. There is even a possibility that after you launch it 926kms away a Russian aircrafts have better chances to tail you with air to air missiles or air to ground missiles when you go land back than launching it from distances used by Kinzhal
13 million dollars to deliver a 150lb payload on fixed targets. I would only present this as a joke to laugh at than be serious about in missile technology. This is a fucking abomination
. Is this missile wrapped with paper thin photonic radar antennas all around its cylinder body that was displayed by Vega with the combination of artificial intelligence where the missile sees an interceptor missile coming at it from a certain distance to say ohh shit I am going to go this direction to avoid it and still hit my ground target? I just cant stop laughing at this shit thinking how the hell are you keeping a straight face presenting that image? Even if China's D-21 does not have the maneuverability to hover up and down like a HGV at least they have a bigger warhead with sensors to go target targets that are not fixed.
Firstly, ARRW range is not 500 miles (926 km), if you pay attention the the graphic they deliberately use the >500 miles symbol. Normally this would let us assume that ARRW range is roughly 510-520 miles, but it has been revealed before that ARRW can fly 1000 miles in 10-12 minutes, so obviously the limit isn't at 926 km
Secondly, what sort of plane can attack from 926 km? there isn't any. What sort of anti aircraft missile can attack from 926 km? there isn't any. And light up on radar? let say if you are at height of 11 km, the enemy radar mast is 50 meters tall, then the radar horizon is only 462 km, so even 926 km will let you stay outside the radar horizon in most case. On the other hand, the kind of OTH radar that let you see a few thounsand km away aka sky wave OTH radar, also have the blind radius of 1500-2000 km around them so they aren't always usesable
Thirdly, DF-21 is 32,400 pound, ground launched while ARRW is 5,000 pounds and can be launched by fighter. DF-21 is 64 times bigger than ARRW, so to compare them is a like comparing the AK-47 rounds with the battleship cannon and say the 7.62 mm round is bad because it can't carry as much HE as the battleship round.
Here is something you will also find in common with iskander, kinzhal and Yars.
Iskander against the maritime threat. New weapons to fight NATO ships - RIA Novosti, 03.03.2020
Solid-fuel single-stage missile 9M723 complex "Iskander-M" is made by technology "stealth". It is controlled throughout the flight path, constantly maneuvering. The speed is more than two thousand kilometers per hour. The warhead weighs about half a ton and is equipped with cluster fragmentation, cumulative, penetrating, incendiary and other destructive elements.
Russia’s Aerospace Forces Prepare Training for Kinzhal Hypersonic Missiles - Jamestown
he Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is a nuclear-capable air-launched ballistic missile (ALBM) with a claimed range in excess of 2,000 kilometers, achieving Mach 10, with the ability to perform evasive maneuvers at every stage of its flight. It can also be armed with a conventional high explosive fragmentation warhead. By introducing the Kinzhal to the VKS regiment in Kansk, it offers the capability to cover potential threats in all strategic directions across the Russian Federation. Flight crews of the 712th Fighter Aviation Regiment, based in Kansk, will train in their MiG-31K aircraft to master the Kinzhal ALBM. The commander of the Central MD, Lieutenant General Alexander Lapin, confirmed that the rearmament of the fighter regiment to hypersonic missile systems is scheduled for completion in 2024 (Izvestia, May 10).
And here is a Yars missile for a bonus.
Radius of destruction of yars. Full review of the domestic missile complex "Yars" (lom-s.ru)
We continue to find out further what the Yars (rocket) is. Its characteristics deserve close attention. The adoption of this projectile in the conditions of America's build-up of missile defense systems became likely, since the START-1 agreement expired in 2009, which allowed the development of ICBMs only with a monoblock leading part.
And what was The second asymmetric response of Russia to U.S. missile defense initiatives? Rocket "Yars" flight speed was very effective. In addition, it was struck by its excellent stability when passing through the orders of the promising US missile defense system. And it was not influenced by the damaging factors of nuclear explosions (PNW).
Many experts say that the yars-M missile has remarkable characteristics. Thus, the active area of the trajectory of these weapons is reduced. Instant speed dialing provides a more efficient mixture charge of the rocket's solid fuel main engines (RDTT). The projectile at the start can make a program maneuver. It is necessary to penetrate through the cloud of a nuclear explosion of an attacking missile.
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Its the red line not the green line of the path the missile follows. Now that this subject is at hand does the Rocks, Blue, Silver sparrow or Skybolt have thrust vectoring control? Someone that likes aviation I know that you know what that is and what it does with aircrafts right?
They don't use thrust vectoring control, they use something called the 3D gas thruster.
Thrust vectoring generally referring to the ability to pitch the nozzle or divert the thrust of the main engine, so that you can pitch or yaw the nose of missile/aircraft. Then the propulsion system will propelled the aircraft/missile toward the new direction where their nose point at. This is a common method of controlling for aircraft/missile inside atmosphere, because you can have your engine continuously generating thrust, and the aerodynamic force attack on the fuselage after you point the nose will also help the missile/aircraft turn
In space however, there is no air, that mean you can't use efficient engine that can operate for a long time like turbofan, turbojet, ramjet , scramjet or anything similar. You can only use rocket engine,because these things carry their own oxidizer. But rocket engine consume fuel very very quickly and generally speaking, for solid rocket propellant like Iskander, Kinzhal you can't really control their rocket burn rate, that mean if your rocket produce X pound of thrust then it always produce X pound of thrust, you can't reduce the thrust to improve the rocket burn time, at most you can have a boost-sustain rocket engine, but even for that, you will have the boost part produce X pounds of thrust and the sustain part produce Y pound of thrust, but not a range from X-Y like with an air breathing engine. If you use the thrust vector control on a ballistic missile, it only help the missile change direction while the main rocket motor still running, and that is actually very short amount of time. So instead, on ballistic missile, especially the ICBM one, they often use 3D side thruster (that mean separate thrusters perpendicular to the body of the missile), the effect is that it can change missile lateral position, and unlike thrust vector control, they don't share the same thruster with the main engine, so they can operate for longer time because they don't need to produce the same amount of thrust.
I expect that you will start to think that a ballistic missiles with both side thruster and thrust vector control will be much better than hypersonic boost glider because they can change direction in all phase and they are not slow down in mid phase like these hypersonic boost glider. But it isn't simple like that, for any kind of engine, you always have the relationship between thrust and fuel consumption. If you want to produce more thrust, then you will use more fuel. A side thruster can be made to operate much longer at the cost of reduced thrust while thrust vector control on main engine can produce good amount of thrust but only for a short time. In short TVC let you make hard turn for very short period after launch and 3D side thruster let you make slight maneuver in mid phase. A boost glider vehicle solve this issue because it change direction by aerodynamic force, at hypersonic speed, the aerodynamic force is huge, so that allow hypersonic boost glider to make hard turn even in mid phase. This is something that ballistic missile can't do,they only do hard maneuver after re-entry. That why Russian invested in Avangard, US invested in ARRW, LRHW instead of simply using their traditional ballistic missile like Yars, Trident..etc
