probably.
You're a dumb ass if you think once initial talks start the ball will slow down, US works a lot more efficient under Trump. The number of F-35 deals signed in the last 3 years proves itself.probably.
Greece will share its futur force between Rafale and F35.
A part of the F16 fleet will be deeply upgraded, so a F35 purchase is not for tomorrow. Maybe the time to fine tune the stealthy goose, ie nearly in 2032
And don't forget that Rafale is ASMPA ready. And ASMPA is a nuclear weapon of a NATO country.... 300 to 500 km range, 300kt warhead. Onother beast than B61.
Another big fake news of our old but sick friend @Immanuel
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Meanwhile, the UK Ministry of Defence has steadfastly held to the 138-aircraft figure in its communications.Storm Clouds Gather Over F-35B Lightning As United Kingdom Prepares Defense Review
Bronk said he thought the 138-aircraft target was an “aspiration unlikely to be funded,”
Reports in the British media last month suggested that the United Kingdom may only buy 70 F-35Bs, rather than the 138 aircraft originally planned.
50% cut !!!!!
Storm Clouds Gather Over F-35B Lightning As United Kingdom Prepares Defense Review
A reduced force of F-35Bs looks increasingly likely and could free up funds for the Tempest future fighter.
another wonderfull news isn't it?
You're again confusing long term costs vs long term production. F-35 has enough orders to be in production for a long time. Govts. change, policies change but the Military Industrial Complex will always look out for itself. They have deep pockets, plenty of pull with both Democrats and Republicans and the Presidency. You're only looking at the cost, you forget that over it's lifetime it will have hundreds of exports. The current export order book for the F-35 is at 750+ airframes which is over $150 Billion in orders. Over the next decade, every F-16 operator is a potential F-35 operator. Over it's lifetime, you'll see 2000 + aircraft in exports. As said, F-35 is not just a 5th gen jet but a gravy train. A lots of jobs, companies, suppliers depend on it.@Immanuel
The first comprehensive cost review of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program since 2012 has found a funding gap of $10 billion over the next five years.
Even more shocking, the total costs for the F-35 are estimated to reach $1.727 trillion over the lifetime of the program. Of this total, $1.266 trillion will be needed for operations and support.
SO SAD.....
The F-35's $10 Billion Funding Gap
A new report indicates that the JSF will require an additional $10 billion beyond the amount officially claimed by the DoD.www.cagw.org
so the real costs of the bird is not known, and even less mastered. Congrats LM !
Little you say or do stops the F-35 from being sold. For years they have been talking about cuts, yet nothing happened. Committees get formed, papers get released, cost estimates get thrown around yet in real life all I see if F-35 winning most fighter competitions in this time. So suck on that fact.
Never, never, never !
The 138 target was and is just usefull for job shares.
NATO’s nuclear deterrence policy and forces
Nuclear weapons are a core component of NATO’s overall capabilities for deterrence and defence, alongside conventional and missile defence forces. NATO is committed to arms control, disarmament and non-proliferation, but as long as nuclear weapons exist, it will remain a nuclear alliance.www.nato.int
Strategic nuclear forces
The strategic forces of the Alliance, and particularly those of the United States, are the supreme guarantee of the security of the Allies. The independent strategic nuclear forces of the United Kingdom and France have a deterrent role of their own and contribute significantly to the overall security of the Alliance. These Allies’ separate centres of decision-making contribute to deterrence by complicating the calculations of any potential adversaries. In other words, should an adversary decide to attack NATO, they must not only contend with NATO’s decision-making, but also make a judgment about decision-making from the leaders of the United States, United Kingdom, and France.
It's the US that guarantees Nuclear security over the rest of NATO and launch authority will require always US approval first.
It's ok cupe cake, you're going senile by the day.
The french nukes are under a one key decision center.NATO’s nuclear deterrence policy and forces
Nuclear weapons are a core component of NATO’s overall capabilities for deterrence and defence, alongside conventional and missile defence forces. NATO is committed to arms control, disarmament and non-proliferation, but as long as nuclear weapons exist, it will remain a nuclear alliance.
Strategic nuclear forces
The strategic forces of the Alliance, and particularly those of the United States, are the supreme guarantee of the security of the Allies. The independent strategic nuclear forces of the United Kingdom and France have a deterrent role of their own and contribute significantly to the overall security of the Alliance. These Allies’ separate centres of decision-making contribute to deterrence by complicating the calculations of any potential adversaries. In other words, should an adversary decide to attack NATO, they must not only contend with NATO’s decision-making, but also make a judgment about decision-making from the leaders of the United States, United Kingdom, and France.
It's the US that guarantees Nuclear security over the rest of NATO and launch authority will require always US approval first.
It's ok cupe cake, you're going senile by the day.
You are pulling my leg.
You make my point exactly, in the case of NATO, release of nuclear weapons is directly controlled by Washington along with the Brits. France has little pull in NPG exactly because they choose to stay out.
We'll see. So far there's a small chance for Rafale in Swiss. The odds for F-35 and Block-3 are much higher due to existing stocks of US weapons, logistics and relationships lasting decades.
US weapons : old stock. Just enough to be used on the remaining life of actual F18.
Rafale didn't get far in 2011 and the F-35 in competition changes things.
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You are unable to see or udnderstand this kind of things my old and sick bro.
The SH18 breakdown was official.
