F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

[StealthFlanker]

Quick question. How would instantaneous update happen to the library without necessary verification and sign offs. Almost most modern aircraft including the rafale continually record and classify electronic signatures on the go. Which is why it has a powerful mdpu inside a single aircraft to collate and classify multiple sensor input for a single source. Data sharing also means that the rafale would share the same processed data to other aircraft. This is what dassault claims.
One that data is stored, there is a lot of verification process before said Air Force can officially update a threat library. This is my understanding.
I really don’t see the advantage of the F35 here compared to the likes of other 4++aircraft. The only advantage I see for the F35 is the USAF has integrated not just the F35, but also scores of other ground and airborne platforms, such that it is able to get a tactical picture even before take off.

The key advantage of F-35 over any other aircraft is cognitive EW. Meaning it can react to new waveform that isn't previously recorded in library in real time

“In the past, what would happen is you’d send out your EA-18,” the military’s top-of-the-line EW aircraft, Deputy Defense Secretary Bob Work said last month in an event at the Center for New American Security. “It would find a new waveform. There was no way for us to do anything about it. The pilot would come back, they would talk about it, they’d replicate it, they’d emulate it. It would go into the ‘ gonculator ,’ goncu-goncu-goncu-gonculatoring, and then you would have something, and then maybe some time down the road, you would have a response.”

That process is far too slow to be effective against digitally programmable radars. “The software [to defeat new waveforms] may take on the order of months or years, but the effectiveness needs to programed within hours or seconds. If it’s an interaction with a radar and a jammer, for example, sometime it’s a microsecond,” said Robert Stein, who co-chaired the Defense Science Board study.

Read “interaction” in that context to mean the critical moment when an adversary, perhaps a single lowly radar operator, detects a U.S. military aircraft on a covert operation. That moment of detection is the sort of world-changing event that happens, literally, in the blink of an eye.

Just before the study came out, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, established the Adaptive Radar Countermeasures program to “enable U.S. airborne EW systems to automatically generate effective countermeasures against new, unknown and adaptive radars in real-time in the field.”

The goal: EW software that can perceive new waveforms and attacks as quickly and as clearly as a living being can hear leaves rustle or see a predator crouching in the distance, then respond creatively to the threat: can I outrun that? Can I fight it? Should I do anything at all? It’s a problem of artificial intelligence: creating a living intelligence in code

This Is The Most Important Technology On the F-35

Cognitive EW, currently in its infancy, may one day help justify the Joint Strike Fighter’s enormous cost.

www.defenseone.com

 

[Bhurki]

Canada is relooking at F-35 after years of political farce against the program.
It will go up against F-18 SH Blk3 and Gripen E.
Contract order of about 88 jets with value of $19B.

How selecting the Lockheed Martin F-35 could impact Canada's economy - Skies Mag

In a recent briefing, Lockheed shared the results of an economic impact assessment that suggested selection of the F-35 could impact GDP by almost $17 billion.

www.skiesmag.com

 

[Bhurki]

Looks like South Korea wants to become a carrier navy.

South Korea Officially Unveils Plan For F-35B Light Carrier

South Korea Officially Unveils Plan For F-35B Light Carrier

Though still described as an amphibious warship, it will be focused on aviation operations and will lack a well deck.

www.thedrive.com

 

[BON PLAN]

Israel Now Has Two Combat Ready F-35 Squadrons

With a storied past, 116 Squadron becomes the second combat-coded “Adir” unit in the Israeli Air Force.

www.thedrive.com

Non sense, FOC is depended on the respective Air forces. Israel declares their 2 F-35s squadrons as FOC. So chill. Similarly Japan, South Korea, Italy, UK, Norway have IOC.

Even Rafale in India will take till 2023 to be FOC since ISE specific Rafale arrives in India last. IAF could declare IOC in a few months after several hundreds of hours later this year or early next.

Full Operational capability will depend on each countries' needs and many of the European airforces are waiting for integration of Asraam, Meteor, Spear, JSM, B-61 MK-12 (nuke bomb) to declare FOC which is a normal thing as every airforce has different needs.

Non sense.
Combat ready means IOC. not FOC.

 

[BON PLAN]

He probably still believes F-35 is a 'turkey'.

A stealthy turkey. Or a flying brick unable to supercruise despite 18 tons thrust.

 

[BON PLAN]

Contract order of about 88 jets with value of $19B.

in the 200+ USD million each.
It will be interesting to see how this figure will evolve....

 

[Manticore]

A stealthy turkey. Or a flying brick unable to supercruise despite 18 tons thrust.

A stealthy turkey that is selling like hotcakes.

It's been explained to you before how the costs of these deals are decided but since you ignore it Everytime then....the plane is expensive and selling like hotcakes.

 

[Immanuel]

Non sense.
Combat ready means IOC. not FOC.

Stop being an ass, combat ready is combat ready. IOC was already achieved a couple of years back.

 

[Immanuel]

Israel still opposes F-35 sale to UAE, despite normalization deal, senior officials say

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www.haaretz.com

Seems like UAE will now get the F-35. Wow

The only AF to operate Block-60, Rafale and eventually F-35.

 

[BON PLAN]

Israel still opposes F-35 sale to UAE, despite normalization deal, senior officials say

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www.haaretz.com

Seems like UAE will now get the F-35. Wow

The only AF to operate Block-60, Rafale and eventually F-35.

No Rafale order as for now from UAE.
Maybe to replace M2000-9, but they are to be upgraded slightly.

 

[BON PLAN]

Stop being an ass, combat ready is combat ready. IOC was already achieved a couple of years back.

Rafale F1 was combat ready..... only with magic2 short range missile....

 

[BON PLAN]

Stop being an ass, combat ready is combat ready. IOC was already achieved a couple of years back.

late, once again late....

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

And if these are crucial combat tests to come, that means it is not combat ready now....

 

[BON PLAN]

another delay

Production of one of the F-35′s most anticipated bombs has been on hold for almost a year

Deliveries of a new precision-guided bomb under development by Raytheon stopped in July 2019 after a problem was discovered.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Bhurki]

F-35 Will Finally Go into Full Production Next March, Acquisitions Chief Says

F-35 Will Finally Go into Full Production Next March, Acquisitions Chief Says

The program has faced a series of delays, the latest being COVID-19 social distancing restrictions.

www.military.com

 

[Manticore]

late, once again late....

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

And if these are crucial combat tests to come, that means it is not combat ready now....

It's still outselling that Rafale though.
It's also nice that the delay of a bomb is in your mind, somehow attributed to the F-35.

 

[LDev]

It's still outselling that Rafale though.
It's also nice that the delay of a bomb is in your mind, somehow attributed to the F-35.

Yep, more than 500 produced to date vs 200 for the Rafale even though the F-35 first flew in 2006, 20 years after the Rafale's first flight in 1986.

 

[Bhurki]

FRP at 180/year by 2022 mean all F-15EX contracts will vapourise thenceforth.
If all goes well, no more than 50 F-15EX will see the skies.

 

[Immanuel]

late, once again late....

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

And if these are crucial combat tests to come, that means it is not combat ready now....

Well COVID caused plenty of issues including for Rafale deliveries, FOC in USAF and USN will take longer.

 

[Immanuel]

FRP at 180/year by 2022 mean all F-15EX contracts will vapourise thenceforth.
If all goes well, no more than 50 F-15EX will see the skies.

Boeing lands the first order of the F-15EX

The first award covers an initial lot of eight jets.

www.defensenews.com

The F-15EX program in US has a order cap of $23 Billion and budgets have been allocated. Plus it is more of a replacement for ageing F-15C/D.

“The first two aircraft were awarded [Monday]; the remaining six are included as priced options,” Bailey said. “The aircraft, support equipment, initial spares, and most [nonrecurring engineering] tasks will be purchased under a fixed-priced contract types. Software integration, test support, and interim contractor support will be purchased under cost-plus contract types.”
Along with the first eight F-15EXs, which were approved in the fiscal year 2020 budget, the Air Force has requested 12 F-15EXs in FY21 and plans to ask for 64 jets from FY22 to FY25.
The Air Force has not decided which bases will be the first to receive F-15EX jets, with the service adding in its news release that “the Strategic Basing Process is in work to determine the fielding locations for subsequent aircraft lots.”

Order book will be 144 jets atleast. Also, just because F-35 is at peak production doesn't mean jack to the US Govt. and MIC, their obvious plan is to keep all Teen lines open as long as possible.

 

[Bhurki]

Boeing lands the first order of the F-15EX

The first award covers an initial lot of eight jets.

www.defensenews.com

The F-15EX program in US has a order cap of $23 Billion and budgets have been allocated. Plus it is more of a replacement for ageing F-15C/D.

“The first two aircraft were awarded [Monday]; the remaining six are included as priced options,” Bailey said. “The aircraft, support equipment, initial spares, and most [nonrecurring engineering] tasks will be purchased under a fixed-priced contract types. Software integration, test support, and interim contractor support will be purchased under cost-plus contract types.”
Along with the first eight F-15EXs, which were approved in the fiscal year 2020 budget, the Air Force has requested 12 F-15EXs in FY21 and plans to ask for 64 jets from FY22 to FY25.
The Air Force has not decided which bases will be the first to receive F-15EX jets, with the service adding in its news release that “the Strategic Basing Process is in work to determine the fielding locations for subsequent aircraft lots.”

Order book will be 144 jets atleast. Also, just because F-35 is at peak production doesn't mean jack to the US Govt. and MIC, their obvious plan is to keep all Teen lines open as long as possible.

There's no 'atleast'. Its an Indefinite quantity/amount order, meaning it can be terminated any year. That 144/200 quantity and $20B is absolute 'cap'.(max)

The requirement for usaf is 64 jets per year. If F35 line satisfies that requirement, then there will be no more F15 orders, since F35 is preferred both by cost and mission capabilities. The only reason F15 is bought is because F35 didnt hit FRP and the line was coming short on deliveries.