F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

[IndianHawk]

These ruskies,they say Su57 is better than F35 and F22,yet costs only 35 million,do they sell jf17 in the frame of SU57 ???

https://rg.ru/amp/2020/04/01/nazvany-boevye-preimushchestva-su-57-pered-f-22-i-f-35.html

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Ruble has collapsed so much that it is now equal to rupee 1 to 1 hence dollar figure are less. But even then this is state propaganda. Su57 might not be true stealth but it's a very capable jet with powerful engines and multiple aesa arrays.

 

[asianobserve]

A nice walk-around an F-35A

 

[asianobserve]

I mean nice for kids and the kuds at heart...

 

[scatterStorm]

Su57 is a well though attack system. Eventually, other attack systems in the air would be in WVR, and you cannot win in WVR with Su57. With new armament sets for Su57, expect BVRAAM capabilities extended, eventually pulling foe attack systems to WVR, hook-n-pull. With the new engines its going to be difficult for to even come close to it. It was sent to Syrian airspace for a good reason, you just don't put a multi-billion dollar asset in a combat airspace. Must've picked some F35 and F22s nearby. :biggrin2:

Balakot Air Skirmish proves that no matter how good strike package you have, you can disrupt attack tactics.

 

[asianobserve]

Su57 is a well though attack system. Eventually, other attack systems in the air would be in WVR, and you cannot win in WVR with Su57. With new armament sets for Su57, expect BVRAAM capabilities extended, eventually pulling foe attack systems to WVR, hook-n-pull. With the new engines its going to be difficult for to even come close to it. It was sent to Syrian airspace for a good reason, you just don't put a multi-billion dollar asset in a combat airspace. Must've picked some F35 and F22s nearby. :biggrin2:

Balakot Air Skirmish proves that no matter how good strike package you have, you can disrupt attack tactics.

Good opponents like the US will always play to the strengths of their plstforms and will adjust their tactics accordingly. And with today's modern aerial combat system when you are forced into a WVR then you lose your advantages and is on par with your opponents as far as chances of survival is concerned. So US forces will rely on BVR and will avoid valiantly charging into enemies like the Indian hero Abhinandan. If advantage is lost then US will simply retreat tactical in most cases to recover their advantage.

Case in point, WW2 dogfights. Although American F4F were vastly outmaneuvered by Zero in dogfights, the Americans quickly learned to avoid fighting under Japs terms. They improvised to do boom-and-zoom, Tache Weave, etc. that effectively nullified Zeros advantage in agility. American pilots avoided getting into a turning fight with Zeros which they knew they could not out turn. So the less agile F4F neutralized Zeros dominance in Wake island, Midway, Guadalcanal, etc.

What the F4F lacked in agility it compensated in armor, armament and self-sealing fuel tanks. Most importantly, US pilots that played into these F4F's strengths and avoided Zeros strengths made the fight equal.

 

[BON PLAN]

Although American F4F were vastly outmaneuvered by Zero in dogfights, the Americans quickly learned to avoid fighting under Japs terms. They improvised to do boom-and-zoom, Tache Weave, etc. that effectively nullified Zeros advantage in agility. American pilots avoided getting into a turning fight with Zeros which they knew they could not out turn. So the less agile F4F neutralized Zeros dominance in Wake island, Midway, Guadalcanal, etc.

What the F4F lacked in agility it compensated in armor, armament and self-sealing fuel tanks. Most importantly, US pilots that played into these F4F's strengths and avoided Zeros strengths made the fight equal.

ABSOLUTELY .

 

[BON PLAN]

1. AARGM-ER's final dash speed is Mach 4, that's not subsonic;
2. JASSM-ER is an all-aspect stealth plus is too small as compared to F-35 or F-22, so goodluck trying to detect much more lock on it it; and,
3. Multistatic radars are surveillance radars. They are not fire-control radars. Thus while given some luck they can pick-out a very small stealthy subsonic cruise missile (very unlikely since JASSM-ER will hug the terrain) it needs to pass on the data to a monostatic fire-control radar which does not have the same coverage as the multistatic radar.

Isn't is possible to use the multistatic radar to fire a missile in the direction of the threat (without the precision of a fire control one) ? A nice IR seeker or active radar, may be enough for the missile to catch the target.
After all a plane is never fully stealth. It just reduce the range in which it can be detected.

 

[asianobserve]

Isn't is possible to use the multistatic radar to fire a missile in the direction of the threat (without the precision of a fire control one) ? A nice IR seeker or active radar, may be enough for the missile to catch the target.
After all a plane is never fully stealth. It just reduce the range in which it can be detected.

You're talking of a large airspace covered by multistatic radar. Where do you aim your short range IR missile? So you have to narrow down the area whete F-35 or F-22 is travelling to be able to send a fighter to intercept it. But note that IR missiles are short range missiles so the firing aircraft must be within 30 miles of the F-35 or F-22, WVR to do it, while active homing radars in A2A missiles are radar based. So stealth features of F-35 and F-22, not to mention EW, kicks in. But even before the intercepting aircrafts lifts off the ground F-35 sensors are already tracking down...

 

[BON PLAN]

You're talking of a large airspace covered by multistatic radar. Where do you aim your short range IR missile? So you have to narrow down the area whete F-35 or F-22 is travelling to be able to send a fighter to intercept it. But note that IR missiles are short range missiles so the firing aircraft must be within 30 miles of the F-35 or F-22, WVR to do it, while active homing radars in A2A missiles are radar based. So stealth features of F-35 and F-22, not to mention EW, kicks in. But even before the intercepting aircrafts lifts off the ground F-35 sensors are already tracking down...

MICA (VL and not VL) is not a short range missile, and it exists in IR mode.

Isn't it possible to use multistatic radar to guide, in a passive way, a fighter near the opponent so as to detect it by IR trace and fire at it a IR or EM missile ? Or even the same, without a IR fighter detection, just on coordonates given by the multistatic radar ?

 

[BON PLAN]

You're talking of a large airspace covered by multistatic radar. Where do you aim your short range IR missile? So you have to narrow down the area whete F-35 or F-22 is travelling to be able to send a fighter to intercept it. But note that IR missiles are short range missiles so the firing aircraft must be within 30 miles of the F-35 or F-22, WVR to do it, while active homing radars in A2A missiles are radar based. So stealth features of F-35 and F-22, not to mention EW, kicks in. But even before the intercepting aircrafts lifts off the ground F-35 sensors are already tracking down...

The fact is that even the Israelis think that stealth is a vanished quality. Maybe not tomorrow, but as one Israeli general said some years ago, in ten years nearly.

 

[asianobserve]

MICA (VL and not VL) is not a short range missile, and it exists in IR mode.

Isn't it possible to use multistatic radar to guide, in a passive way, a fighter near the opponent so as to detect it by IR trace and fire at it a IR or EM missile ? Or even the same, without a IR fighter detection, just on coordonates given by the multistatic radar ?

I have not come across an article about multistatic radar performing fire control duties. As the available resources avaible on mutistatic radars show this kind of radar system cannot pinpont with accuracy the position of a stealth aircraft. If Multistatic radars use low frequency radar signals then the noise will frown out the stealthy aircraft returns. But if a multistatic radar uses narrow beam signals then its search area covered will be narrower allowing stealth aricrafts a high probability of excaping detection.

Second, I'm 100 percent sure that US F-35 and F-22 will deal with multistatic suverillance radar by: 1) staying at stand off distances and using long range ARM and cruismissiles to attack multistatic radar sites; 2) Using EW attacked to fool or disable these radars; or 3) used decoys to bait these radars so that they can be easily attacked with a wide array of munnitions once these radars lights up; or 4) the good old SF sabotage.

Why are multistatic radars and most AD easy radars easy targets for top notch blue force? Because they are mostly stationary and predictable. The attackers on the other hand could be everywhere.In other words, offence is nimble while defence is sluggish.

 

[asianobserve]

Incredible image of USMC G-35B taking off from USS America in the Philippine Sea

 

[asianobserve]

Ready to take on UFOs...

 

[asianobserve]

US flexes military might in front of Russian forces with F-35 flight over Syria

A USAF F-35A Lightning II fighter jet flies near the #ATG in Syria, April 10, 2020. Coalition and partner forces continue to strike at extremist organizations in Syria despite COVID-19, reflecting the world-wide unity to see an enduring defeat delivered against Daesh #DefeatDaesh



While the U.S. conducted this flight, the Russian military was likely watching from afar, as they have headquartered their forces in eastern Syria at the Qamishli Airport in the northern region of the Al-Hasakah Governorate.

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/art...an-forces-with-f-35-flight-over-syria-photos/

 

[asianobserve]

IAF F-35s undetected in Syria

According to unnamed sources from the IDF, Israeli F-35s entered Syrian air space and flew for several hundred kilometers without being detected by S-300 or S-400 systems. No Russian or Syrian aircraft were scrambled to attempt and intercept Israel’s stealth fighters.

The Syrians also have purchased the Iranian BAVAR-373 air defense system. The Iranians claim that the system can detect stealth F-35 and U.S. F-22 fighters from a distance of 150-180 kilometers. However, this statement seems suspect, since the IAF has conducted with impunity a number of airstrikes, using F35s, against Iranian-proxy targets.

The Israelis have claimed that for about 5 years now F-35s have been taking off from Israel to Tehran and back without being detected or without needing to refuel. This would put the stealth fighter’s air superiority in another realm. There were even rumors (which seem a tad far-fetched), that the IAF conducted a test stealth flight from Israel to Tehran and back without being noticed.

https://sofrep.com/news/american-f-35s-overfly-special-operations-bases-in-syria/

 

[BON PLAN]

IAF F-35s undetected in Syria





https://sofrep.com/news/american-f-35s-overfly-special-operations-bases-in-syria/

May it be a russian misinformation attempt ?
a kind of : You see the F35 on your screen but you don't send fighter so as to give confidence to the US in the (false) invisibility of your bird. But in case of a real conflict, the so called invisibility cloak will vanished.
The russians are able to do that.

 

[BangaliBabu]

what "false" war is there over Syrian airspace??
Russian radars defending Russian airspace is wholly different. The Russian AD hardware deployed in M-E conflicts weren't able to detect IAF Adirs earlier too. There's no hiding of capabilities, the AD systems simply aren't effective........

 

[BON PLAN]

what "false" war is there over Syrian airspace??
Russian radars defending Russian airspace is wholly different. The Russian AD hardware deployed in M-E conflicts weren't able to detect IAF Adirs earlier too. There's no hiding of capabilities, the AD systems simply aren't effective........

Maybe.
Or it is a master misinformation operation.

Hitler was absolutely sure that allies were to debark in the Pas de Calais region....
USAF was absolutely sure that U2 can't be shooted down....
Saddam was sure that no one will fight for a so small country called Koweit.....

The occasion is too nice for russia to try to have some precious information.

 

[asianobserve]

Maybe.
Or it is a master misinformation operation.

Hitler was absolutely sure that allies were to debark in the Pas de Calais region....

Well Israel continue to bomb deep in Syria against Iranian targets.

 

[asianobserve]

CSB accelerates JSOW C-1 NEW integration on F-35

NEW effectively enables a Moving Maritime Target (MMT) capability for the C-1.

CSB accelerates JSOW C-1 NEW integration on F-35 | Jane's 360