F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

[Bhurki]

That F-35 elephant walk seems to be symbolic since there were 52 F-35s there which seems to correspond to Trump's bluster to hit 52 Iranian sites including eyebrow-raising cultural sites.

Not really, its just usaf symbolizing that it has moved back to 24+2 squadron from the reduced 16+2 that it was sustaining over the last 2 decades.
What you are seeing are 2 squadrons of 388th wing that has a total of 78(72+6) aircraft.

 

[StealthFlanker]

FOC ? no. At least not yet. Maybe in 2030.

it's FUCK or IOC.

just choose.

Love how you are so desperately trying to create the furthest year number for F-35 FOC.

 

[BON PLAN]

Love how you are so desperately trying to create the furthest year number for F-35 FOC.

On a french forum, a retired high level aeronautic ingineer (he worked for Dassault, Airbus, Astrium, ESA...) explained, with all the F35 delays, that FOC will be inked in 2031.... at best.
Politically an intermediate FOC0 phase will be released before... but technically and operationally....

 

[asianobserve]

FOC ? no. At least not yet. Maybe in 2030.

it's FUCK or IOC.

just choose.

Funny even without FOC just the display of F-35s already made Iran back down....

 

[Bhurki]

Not really, its just usaf symbolizing that it has moved back to 24+2 squadron from the reduced 16+2 that it was sustaining over the last 2 decades.
What you are seeing are 2 squadrons of 388th wing that has a total of 78(72+6) aircraft.

I dont think people have noticed the gravity of this decision.
This will jack up the number of fighters in usaf by about 45% !
Usaf has 40 sq of F16 and 10 sq of F15C, which means when replaced by F35, the total aircraft number in these squadrons will move from 900 to 1300!
Helps you understand where those 1763 of intended F35a for usaf are going to go.

 

[BON PLAN]

I dont think people have noticed the gravity of this decision.
This will jack up the number of fighters in usaf by about 45% !
Usaf has 40 sq of F16 and 10 sq of F15C, which means when replaced by F35, the total aircraft number in these squadrons will move from 900 to 1300!
Helps you understand where those 1763 of intended F35a for usaf are going to go.

I don't agree.
1) A follow on fighter for F35 is already on the drawing board. That means that even in the case of an increase of the planes in squad, all will not be covered by F35.
2) ALL the west country are reducing their fleet. Because each bird cost more and more, and because each bird is more potent than earlier models. I doubt US, with such a debt, could increase so much its fleet.

 

[Bhurki]

I don't agree.
1) A follow on fighter for F35 is already on the drawing board. That means that even in the case of an increase of the planes in squad, all will not be covered by F35.
2) ALL the west country are reducing their fleet. Because each bird cost more and more, and because each bird is more potent than earlier models. I doubt US, with such a debt, could increase so much its fleet.

LRIP 1-14 have been sealed with a total of 979 aircraft.
LRIP 1-11 = 501(will deliver last jet this month)
LRIP 12-14 = 478 (signed this year)

US services will get 736 aircraft out of these with USAF having a total of 550+ F35 within next 3 years.

Another long lead orders for 220 jets have been funded as well.
So, there are 500 aircraft already flying (491 by 2019) and 700 more funded as of now.
This year's production target is 160.

 

[asianobserve]

Singapore gets the green light to buy F-35s

http://www.defensenews.com/air/2020/01/09/singapore-gets-the-green-light-to-buy-f-35s/

 

[asianobserve]

UK to receive F-35 DAS upgrade

"All F-35 production aircraft produced from 2023, for all F-35 partner nations including the UK, will be fitted with a new DAS. There will be a retrofit programme to modify partner nation aircraft delivered before 2023 with the next-generation DAS," an MoD spokesperson said.

http://www.janes.com/article/93571/uk-to-receive-f-35-das-upgrade

 

[asianobserve]

So Turkey will loose its entire F-35 order and some ofbit will go to its archrival Greece? Excellent!

Greece may buy U.S. F-35 jets to reclaim air superiority over Turkey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ahvaln...-jets-reclaim-air-superiority-over-turkey?amp

 

[StealthFlanker]

On a french forum, a retired high level aeronautic ingineer (he worked for Dassault, Airbus, Astrium, ESA...) explained, with all the F35 delays, that FOC will be inked in 2031.... at best.
Politically an intermediate FOC0 phase will be released before... but technically and operationally....

Oh yeah sure, the internet where every single armchair general work for aviation and defense companies.
We have been over this before, for a self claimed expert, he made too many basics technical mistakes for anyone to consider him legit.

 

[BON PLAN]

So Turkey will loose its entire F-35 order and some ofbit will go to its archrival Greece? Excellent!

Greece may buy U.S. F-35 jets to reclaim air superiority over Turkey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ahvalnews.com/greece-turkey/greece-may-buy-us-f-35-jets-reclaim-air-superiority-over-turkey?amp

I don't think so. It will be a clear signal to Ankara to purchase Su57 instead of Su35

 

[IndianHawk]

So Turkey will loose its entire F-35 order and some ofbit will go to its archrival Greece? Excellent!

Greece may buy U.S. F-35 jets to reclaim air superiority over Turkey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ahvalnews.com/greece-turkey/greece-may-buy-us-f-35-jets-reclaim-air-superiority-over-turkey?amp

Greece has money to buy anything !! Weren't they bankrupt or something.

 

[Bhurki]

Greece has money to buy anything !! Weren't they bankrupt or something.

Greece has always paid high attention to its armed forces.
For a country of only 10 million, they have
250+ fighter aircraft (160 F16, 50 M2k, 40F4),
2000 tanks,
11 subs, 11 frigates!!
A few F35 won't break the bank.

 

[asianobserve]

I don't think so. It will be a clear signal to Ankara to purchase Su57 instead of Su35

To Americans Erdogan is already 90% lost. Lockheed Martin already assembled 100% the indudtrial contribution of Turkey.

And st#pid Turkish are still dreaming of getting F-35s... Their next best option is Rafale for Americans will not sell them anything cutting edge. Or if Erdogan goes full crazy he can opt for Su-35 (Turkish AF does not like Su-57).

 

[asianobserve]

Greece has money to buy anything !! Weren't they bankrupt or something.

They're slowly getting back on their feet. And they have a proud history of being top warriors. They will always prioritize their defense.

 

[IndianHawk]

Greece has always paid high attention to its armed forces.
For a country of only 10 million, they have
250+ fighter aircraft (160 F16, 50 M2k, 40F4),
2000 tanks,
11 subs, 11 frigates!!
A few F35 won't break the bank.

That may very well be a reason why they are in such a financial mess. Much like our dear neighbor porkistan . Anyway good luck to them .

 

[IndianHawk]

They're slowly getting back on their feet. And they have a proud history of being top warriors. They will always prioritize their defense.

Top warriors have a habit of being in perpetual debt. Makes sense.lol.

 

[Bhurki]

That may very well be a reason why they are in such a financial mess.

No, they are in it due to combined pressure from Eurozone and them not having prepared to be in a shared currency scenario.

Much like our dear neighbor porkistan

What is it with Indians?
Why do you need to always compare everyone to Pakistan?

 

[IndianHawk]

No, they are in it due to combined pressure from Eurozone and them not having prepared to be in a shared currency scenario.

What is it with Indians?
Why do you need to always compare everyone to Pakistan?

Root of Greek crisis lies in financial mismanagement more expense less revenue.
Defense expenditure is part of that mismanagement.

It's similar case to porkistan . The comment about being top warrior was just too much similarity. Porki have same delusion of being warriors . They too maintain huge army and air force despite being hand in bowl beggers.