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Ya'll Nibbiars I am 26 this month and still struggling to find a premanent job may is that why I have become so much negative now than before.
Do good to others, work hard, study my father was very poor, now he is not rich but he is well off, but everything is work, do good be a decent man and blessings will come to you regards Amigo
 

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China develops passenger jet, but 40% of parts suppliers are overseas
COMAC's narrow-body aircraft faces steep hurdles in export market

China's C919 passenger jet will take on rival narrow-body planes from Boeing and Airbus. © Reuters
YUSUKE HINATA and TAKASHI KAWAKAMI, Nikkei staff writersOctober 2, 2021 04:11 JST
ZHUHAI, China -- A Chinese-made passenger jet set to compete with American and European rivals counts roughly 40% of its core component suppliers as overseas companies, exposing the risks posed by U.S. trade frictions to a plane that has been under development for more than a decade.
The C919 jetliner, being manufactured by the Commercial Aircraft Corp of China, or COMAC, is due to be delivered to the first customer by the end of the year. However, with that deadline looming, the plane was a no-show at the Airshow China in Zhuhai on Thursday. COMAC instead exhibited a life-size model of the cabin.
"Boeing and Airbus alone will not be enough to meet demand," a COMAC sales executive said at the event. "The new option we'll provide will be in the interest of the airlines."
The narrow-body jet will compete with bestselling models of its size: the Boeing 737 and the Airbus A320. Although state-owned COMAC has not performed demonstration flights or unveiled an actual plane at the Zhuhai air show, it is widely believed that the C919 is approaching the conclusion of its development, which began in 2008.
But potential turbulence lays ahead for the C919's business prospects. Out of the 39 lead suppliers for the plane, more than 40% hail from the U.S. or other countries outside China, according to documents from China-based brokerage Avic Securities and other sources. The remaining suppliers include joint venture firms backed by foreign companies.
Chinese companies are supplying the fuselage and the wings. But a host of Western suppliers are providing the brains and heart of the plane -- the communication and flight control systems, among other core components.
The share of parts sourced from non-Chinese companies appears to rise even higher when tallied in terms of value. This underscores the extent that China's domestically developed passenger jet is dependent on foreign contribution.
The engine poses a major challenge for domestic development. Currently, the C919 is due to be equipped with an engine manufactured by CFM International, a joint venture between General Electric and France's Safran Aircraft Engines.
COMAC is considering adopting the CJ1000 jet engine being developed by Aero Engine Corporation of China, a maker of military aircraft engines. But many observers believe that such an engine will not be commercially available in the near term.
"It will enter the market around 2030," according to Zheshang Securities.

Relying on the foreign-built engines presents its own risks. News emerged in February 2020 that then-President Donald Trump's administration was considering halting shipments of CFM jet engines to China. The crisis seemed to pass after Trump expressed support for selling to China, but the scare underscored that engines, much like smartphone chips, face major geopolitical risks.
Type certification -- which signifies that an aircraft design is airworthy -- poses another challenge.
Regulators in the U.S. and Europe set de facto standards that many other countries follow. Chinese regulators have their own approval process, but they have little global influence, and Chinese planes are usually able to fly commercially only within China. That limits opportunities for exports that would promote larger-scale production and accelerate the industry's growth.
Aircraft makers are desperate to secure certifications other countries will accept. COMAC at first sought European certification for the C919, but there has been little movement on that front.
The technical hurdles are high enough, but China's aviation industry faces other headwinds -- particularly the easing of years of friction between the U.S. and Europe over aviation. During a June summit, Washington and Brussels reached a truce on a dispute over aircraft subsidies, amid shared concern over China's push into aerospace and defense.
This leaves Beijing with less room to exploit that rift to win aircraft certifications or forge cross-border industry partnerships. Cultivating the domestic aviation market is its only real option for now.
A government meeting in January in Shanghai, COMAC's headquarters, revealed that the C919 will receive certification for pilots and ground crews by the end of the year. China Eastern Airlines, one of the country's top three carriers, officially signed a purchasing contract in March.
The national government has put forward the goal of lifting the ratio of Chinese-manufactured passenger planes in service on major air routes to over 10% by 2025. The C919 will play a major role in promoting the homegrown industry.
China's size in terms of both land mass and population make for strong domestic demand that the country's aviation industry can leverage for growth. But if Beijing goes too far in protecting its aircraft makers, it could risk a backlash from the U.S. and Europe that would further complicate efforts to expand abroad


When the launch of China's first single-aisle C919 aircraft program was announced in 2008, entry into service was scheduled for 2016. However, even five years after the expected date, the aircraft is still far from being certified. Similar terms were announced for the Russian program of the promising medium-haul MS-21: launch in 2007, entry to the market in 2016. But so far, Irkut has not handed over a single vehicle to customers. The outgoing year was another one in which neither Chinese nor Russian aircraft manufacturers again managed to get closer to the start of real deliveries and break the undivided dominance of Airbus and Boeing in the narrow-body segment. Western sanctions and export restrictions add further hurdles to both programs.

Back in early December, COMAC stuck to the promised deadline for obtaining the type certificate for the C919 by the end of this year. But then Yang Zhenmei, head of the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC), said the test program was way behind schedule. Only 1694 out of 3272 points were completed, i.e., slightly more than half of the tasks set by the test program.

In terms of flight tests, the situation is even more deplorable: only 34 out of 276 tasks have been worked out. For example, critical tests at low temperatures remain incomplete. There were plans to send one aircraft to Canada at the beginning of the year, but they were not carried out due to restrictions caused by the pandemic.

Currently, three of the six C919 prototypes are involved in tests in China.

COMAC acknowledged that ongoing delays in the C919 certification program are pushing back the entry into service until at least 2022. In September, the manufacturer still intended to deliver the first aircraft to launch customer China Eastern Airlines before the end of this year. For political reasons, the CAAS may issue a mini-type certificate with strict restrictions before the end of the year - such an idea has already been voiced. However, this will also take a lot of time.

In addition to the usual difficulties for the certification stage, which are difficult to overcome by the Chinese company due to lack of experience, the strict rules for exporting aircraft parts and components from the United States to China have become a huge obstacle. In January 2021, the US Department of Defense listed COMAC as a company with links to the military sector, which significantly complicates logistics for US program providers. The Biden administration surprised the aviation industry by continuing the policies of Donald Trump on economic sanctions.

Although these actions did not have an immediate and irreversible effect on Western manufacturers working with China, they did create a presumption of prohibition for such companies. Many industry analysts have linked the lack of progress on the C919 program to the sanctions, especially after the aircraft never showed up at the Zhuhai Airshow in Zhuhai in September 2021. Chinese officials cited a tight certification testing schedule that prevented the aircraft from being withdrawn for the show, but such claims raised public doubts, as testing has never been an obstacle to Western manufacturers participating in the events. “It is more likely that the C919 certification process has slowed down due to the consequences of US sanctions, including those extended to COMAC. Because of this, most Western suppliers are having difficulty obtaining permits for the export of spare parts to China,” said Agency Partners analyst Sash Tusa. The C919 program is indeed heavily dependent on a number of first-tier Western suppliers, including CFM International, the LEAP-1C engine manufacturer, as well as B/E Aerospace, Honeywell, Moog and Parker Hannifin. Replacing them with local producers is a serious challenge. AVIC's engine division has been developing the ACAE CJ-1000A engine as a local alternative to LEAP since 2012, but it will be years before Chinese engines are available in sufficient quality and quantity.



Airbus has more than 1,500 suppliers in 27 countries, and 30 percent of its manufacturing takes place in the United States. Boeing subcontracts more than 60% of its components to other suppliers, and even 35% of its manufacturing is done in Japan.



Getting from zero to one is always a difficult and painful process.

If the C919 is successful, it will be followed by c929.c939......

That's the state of civil aviation.

Military aviation is another story.
 

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Airbus has more than 1,500 suppliers in 27 countries, and 30 percent of its manufacturing takes place in the United States. Boeing subcontracts more than 60% of its components to other suppliers, and even 35% of its manufacturing is done in Japan.



Getting from zero to one is always a difficult and painful process.

If the C919 is successful, it will be followed by c929.c939......

That's the state of civil aviation.

Military aviation is another story.
U wumao,s have a comprehension issues for sure... this is what MIG nibba been saying... may be u can stop this chest thumping now...

Between C919 uses CFM International LEAP-1C .. Awwww no chinese engines for bat plane..
 

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U wumao,s have a comprehension issues for sure... this is what MIG nibba been saying... may be u can stop this chest thumping now...

Between C919 uses CFM International LEAP-1C .. Awwww no chinese engines for bat plane..
Don't worry, buddy. The J20 started using Russian engines and now uses Chinese engines.



The same is true of the C919.



Hope India can produce its own planes and engines and don't let westerners take your money
 

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Don't worry, buddy. The J20 started using Russian engines and now uses Chinese engines.



The same is true of the C919.



Hope India can produce its own planes and engines and don't let westerners take your money
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Airbus has more than 1,500 suppliers in 27 countries, and 30 percent of its manufacturing takes place in the United States. Boeing subcontracts more than 60% of its components to other suppliers, and even 35% of its manufacturing is done in Japan.



Getting from zero to one is always a difficult and painful process.

If the C919 is successful, it will be followed by c929.c939......

That's the state of civil aviation.

Military aviation is another story.
Have you noticed Airbus is made by a group of nations? Airbus is not made by a single national entity, even the engines used by many Airbus aircraft (Boeing aircraft too) are international collaborations.

The reason for that is salaries, investment and property intelectual rights.

Why do you think GE has a jet engine design center in Mexico?
Reason number one: Mexico does not ask tech transfers to GE, but a second reason is the Mexican human capital, we graduate many engineers and there are many young people in Mexico, reason number three, their intelectual property right is safe and salaries are lower.

What do you get? Mexican engineers are working in the most advanced jet engines in the world.

Does it mean we have a national engine?
No we do not.

Same situation is for Spain, Germany or Japan, in fact all nations have that situation.
The reason is investment, risk partners, GE, RR, Safran or PW are international brands now, like IHI, MTU or ITP
Of course compared to Frisa or Especialistas of Turbo partes from Mexico they have more ample expertise.

China has not really a competitive aviation sector, C919 lets you know that, pure fantasy is what you wrote.
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Bombardier was and is a competitive aviation company but they went the international collaboration because in reality technology is getting too expensive and complicated to be founded or developed by a single nation and sales can not return the investment
So there are very few aircraft, in fact fewer aircraft models doing more thus the market is getting smaller.

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In fact a single model is developed to fill different aircraft classes.

C919 in order to make money needs foreign involvement
 
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Don't worry, buddy. The J20 started using Russian engines and now uses Chinese engines.



The same is true of the C919.



Hope India can produce its own planes and engines and don't let westerners take your money
Sorry China is letting western companies take their money

IHI Named A Major Participant in the GE CF34-8C Engine Program
April 28, 1995

LYNN, Massachusetts - GE Aircraft Engines and Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) of Japan have signed a Memorandum Of Understanding whereby IHI is responsible for the design and manufacture of approximately 25 to 30 percent of the CF34-8C turbofan engine.

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where have i have seen that engine?

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yes so China in ARJ-21 uses a jet engine jointly developed by Japan and the USA
 

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Sorry China is letting western companies take their money

IHI Named A Major Participant in the GE CF34-8C Engine Program
April 28, 1995

LYNN, Massachusetts - GE Aircraft Engines and Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) of Japan have signed a Memorandum Of Understanding whereby IHI is responsible for the design and manufacture of approximately 25 to 30 percent of the CF34-8C turbofan engine.

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where have i have seen that engine?

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yes so China in ARJ-21 uses a jet engine jointly developed by Japan and the USA
Let westerners take your money. This is the reality of the developing world.



Women who assemble iphones in India earn $140 a month, endure miserable working conditions and have to pay for room and board.



Apple employees in the United States earn an average of $120,000 a year



Hopefully, developing countries will change this reality
 

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Don't worry, buddy. The J20 started using Russian engines and now uses Chinese engines.



The same is true of the C919.



Hope India can produce its own planes and engines and don't let westerners take your money
Engine Program Aircraft (Type)Aircraft (Type)Main PartnersUnit Sales (As of Sep. 2014)
V2500A320, MD-90 (Single Aisle)Pratt & Whitney JAEC (Japanese Aero Engines Corporation) (IHI ・・14%) MTU6,231
GE90777 (Medium WidebodyGeneral Electric IHI・・9% Safran1,923
CF34Bombardier CRJ (Regional Jets)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・27%)3,984
GEnx787 and 747 (Small Widebody)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・15%) Safran MTU620
PW1100G-JMA320neo (Single Aisle)
Passport20Bombardier Global 7000/8000 (Business Jets)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・27%)
GE9X777X (Medium Widebody)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・10~12% (To be decided)) Safran MTU
source
 
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Have you noticed Airbus is made by a group of nations? Airbus is not made by a single national entity, even the engines used by many Airbus aircraft (Boeing aircraft too) are international collaborations.

The reason for that is salaries, investment and property intelectual rights.

Why do you think GE has a jet engine design center in Mexico?
Reason number one: Mexico does not ask tech transfers to GE, but a second reason is the Mexican human capital, we graduate many engineers and there are many young people in Mexico, reason number three, their intelectual property right is safe and salaries are lower.

What do you get? Mexican engineers are working in the most advanced jet engines in the world.

Does it mean we have a national engine?
No we do not.

Same situation is for Spain, Germany or Japan, in fact all nations have that situation.
The reason is investment, risk partners, GE, RR, Safran or PW are international brands now, like IHI, MTU or ITP
Of course compared to Frisa or Especialistas of Turbo partes from Mexico they have more ample expertise.

China has not really a competitive aviation sector, C919 lets you know that, pure fantasy is what you wrote.
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Bombardier was and is a competitive aviation company but they went the international collaboration because in reality technology is getting too expensive and complicated to be founded or developed by a single nation and sales can not return the investment
So there are very few aircraft, in fact fewer aircraft models doing more thus the market is getting smaller.

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In fact a single model is developed to fill different aircraft classes.

C919 in order to make money needs foreign involvement
European countries are generally too small to stand up to US companies on their own. So Europe must get its act together.



Europe can build Airbus, but it cannot compete with America on the Internet.


It remains to be seen whether Chinese companies will succeed.



Don't worry, time will tell.
 

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Let westerners take your money. This is the reality of the developing world.



Women who assemble iphones in India earn $140 a month, endure miserable working conditions and have to pay for room and board.



Apple employees in the United States earn an average of $120,000 a year



Hopefully, developing countries will change this reality
Their engines are theirs because they have studied, work and invest, they are not stealing.

Engine Program Aircraft (Type)Aircraft (Type)Main PartnersUnit Sales (As of Sep. 2014)
V2500A320, MD-90 (Single Aisle)Pratt & Whitney JAEC (Japanese Aero Engines Corporation) (IHI ・・14%) MTU6,231
GE90777 (Medium WidebodyGeneral Electric IHI・・9% Safran1,923
CF34Bombardier CRJ (Regional Jets)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・27%)3,984
GEnx787 and 747 (Small Widebody)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・15%) Safran MTU620
PW1100G-JMA320neo (Single Aisle)
Passport20Bombardier Global 7000/8000 (Business Jets)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・27%)
GE9X777X (Medium Widebody)General Electric JAEC (IHI ・・10~12% (To be decided)) Safran MTU
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In fact they are sharing, you are trying to be empathetic but you are not honest, most modern engines are collaborations like the table shows.
Especialistas en turbo Partes from mexico are getting a deal see

PRODUCTS
  • Parts manufacturing for undercarriage (bearing carriers) for the Boeing programs 737, 767, 777
  • Manufacturing for case rings.

Aircraft are now collaborations, even small nations are developing parts.

You say C919 means independence of China, but you are forgetting China also bothers other countries

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The Italika motorcycle from Mexico is an example all parts made in China, who benefits? China only assembled in Mexico, who benefits a few rich people in Mexico and some workers.

In order for us to really develop means like some Bicycle companies did replace the Chinese parts for Mexican parts.

Let me put it this way, China is also a predatory nation and aircraft companies or jet engine companies do not want to share technology specially jet engine technology with China for this
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Let westerners take your money. This is the reality of the developing world.



Women who assemble iphones in India earn $140 a month, endure miserable working conditions and have to pay for room and board.



Apple employees in the United States earn an average of $120,000 a year



Hopefully, developing countries will change this reality
"In Fact they are Sharing"



Oh, I hope so.



Thank you, kind Westerners
kind oriental, the salaries we have in Mexico, China, Brazil, or India are a responsibility of our governments, and Chinese companies do not pay better when they have facilities overseas, when they export to fellow developing nations they also destroy our manufacturing and local companies. So kind oriental understand China also has a policy to destroy our economy I recall Solarever that is trying to destroy real mexican companies Solarever abuses of laws of Mexico and is flooding with Chinese investment our country


Solarever opens plant in Colima with 20 million dollars of Chinese capital
The solar panel company, Solarever, opened a plant in Colima with 20 million dollars, capital of Chinese origin.
said during the inauguration Simon Zhao, president and founder of Solarever

[MEXICO CITY] Mexico's Economy Ministry said on Friday (Feb 4) the country would negotiate the terms of its export of solar energy equipment to the US, after US President Joe Biden extended some Trump-era tariffs by 4 years.

The tariffs, which went into effect in 2018, apply to the most common type of solar cells and panels, made of crystalline silicon. They started at 30 per cent and declined to 15 per cent in the final year.

In response to Biden's move, Mexico's Economy Ministry said in a statement that it "will lead negotiations with the (USTR) to maintain the competitiveness and certainty for trade and investment in North America".

The ministry, however, held out the possibility of "taking measures in accordance with the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO)", which could include exclusion rights or a suspension of concessions.


Thanky you Simon Zhao for being a Chinese troyan horse
 
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kind oriental, the salaries we have in Mexico, China, Brazil, or India are a responsibility of our governments, and Chinese companies do not pay better when they have facilities overseas, when they export to fellow developing nations they also destroy our manufacturing and local companies. So kind oriental understand China also has a policy to destroy our economy I recall Solarever that is trying to destroy real mexican companies Solarever abuses of laws of Mexico and is flooding with Chinese investment our country
Thanky you Simon Zhao for being a Chinese troyan horse
The world is jungle, why you would tolerate USA destroy your agriculture sector, and made your jobless guys become drug gangters, but can't stand Chinese companies producre clean energy to make climate better? You kowtow too long to USA and get used to it?

Chinese firms now supply three quarters of the world’s solar panels, it's because we have right industry policy and hard working companies, it's called comparative advantages in acdemic term, just like we can't compete with Mexico on logistic with certain item to USA.

How China Beat the U.S. to Become World's Undisputed Solar Champion

 

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Sorry China is letting western companies take their money

IHI Named A Major Participant in the GE CF34-8C Engine Program
April 28, 1995

LYNN, Massachusetts - GE Aircraft Engines and Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) of Japan have signed a Memorandum Of Understanding whereby IHI is responsible for the design and manufacture of approximately 25 to 30 percent of the CF34-8C turbofan engine.

View attachment 137873

where have i have seen that engine?

View attachment 137874

yes so China in ARJ-21 uses a jet engine jointly developed by Japan and the USA

Yes, this is nothing wrong to ask forgein companies sharing profits.

Telsa regiestered the company in May, 2018 by 2021 it sold 400,000 cars locally in China. Now 95% of parts are also from local supply chain. This happened on the peak time of trade war between China and US.

Now Chinese local EV brands are also booming thanks to Telsa's coming.

I am running my own busienss for 15 yrs, both on West and China. From my POV, on industry policy making, Chinese government is the most smart ass in the world. They almost made all right decisons on new industries: Mobile phone, Solar and Wind energy, HSR industry, EV industry, ship building, telecommuncations, AI, Drone ...

The famouse strategy: "Market exchanges Technology" repeated again and again.
For civil industry this time, the government is not using Apple or Telsa to building supply chain, but using Chinese brand to integrate global supply chain. But the core is the same, sharing the market and profit, finally get tecnologies and become self reliance.

I think government like Mexico don't even have capability to do th 0 to 1, like make its internal management into order as drug free, we are truly not in the same league.
 

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The world is jungle, why you would tolerate USA destroy your agriculture sector, and made your jobless guys become drug gangters, but can't stand Chinese companies producre clean energy to make climate better? You kowtow too long to USA and get used to it?

Chinese firms now supply three quarters of the world’s solar panels, it's because we have right industry policy and hard working companies, it's called comparative advantages in acdemic term, just like we can't compete with Mexico on logistic with certain item to USA.

How China Beat the U.S. to Become World's Undisputed Solar Champion

The defender of Chinese Imperialism says how can not you let us steal?

You let the Americans steal let us steal, but China does not have drug dealers eh? they do not sell fentanyl

NAFTA was negociated by our goverment and we knew the risks but you are ignorant Mexico is the 7th largest agriculture producer

7. Mexico

Agriculture in Mexico is crucial for the country’s economy both historically and politically. In the GDP of Mexico, agriculture contributes a small percentage. In the past, Mexico produced avocados, beans, tomatoes, peppers, maize, and many more. The country is known for its agricultural exports too. The main feature of Mexico agriculture is growing crops and ½ of the Mexico agriculture output comes under crop account.
Top 10 Agricultural Producing Countries in The World

Agriculture in Mexico

  • The important crops of Mexico are wheat, sugarcane, peppers, corn, bananas, sorghum, blue agave, avocados, beans, other tropical fruits, and more.
  • They are best in the export of crops that include fruits, coffee, vegetables, and sugar.
  • In Mexico, around 15% of the land is occupied by agriculture and about 50% used for livestock.
  • Production of livestock in Mexico is done in a considerable amount that consists of poultry, eggs, beef, and milk.


Any way what has to do that with the Fact jet engine manufacturers do share technology but not with China because the Chinese Government does not respect copy rights

Like its predecessor, the CFM56, the LEAP-1A engine was developed and is produced by CFM International, the successful partnership between Safran Aircraft Engines and GE
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Safran’s recently announced $75 million investment in a new factory in Mexico is part of the French engine maker’s concerted response to meeting the exceptionally high levels of demand for the Leap engines it produces through its CFM International joint venture with GE Aviation. By the end of 2017, the new plant at Queretaro, 125 miles north of Mexico City, will start producing 3-D woven composite fan blades for the Leap turbofans. By 2021, the facility, which is being built in partnership with U.S. company Albany International, is expected to reach an annual output rate of more than 20,000 blades.
Why they do cooperation with France?

French are not stealing GE, they are in Mexico because we do not steal
 
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Yes, this is nothing wrong to ask forgein companies sharing profits.

Telsa regiestered the company in May, 2018 by 2021 it sold 400,000 cars locally in China. Now 95% of parts are also from local supply chain. This happened on the peak time of trade war between China and US.

Now Chinese local EV brands are also booming thanks to Telsa's coming.

I am running my own busienss for 15 yrs, both on West and China. From my POV, on industry policy making, Chinese government is the most smart ass in the world. They almost made all right decisons on new industries: Mobile phone, Solar and Wind energy, HSR industry, EV industry, ship building, telecommuncations, AI, Drone ...

The famouse strategy: "Market exchanges Technology" repeated again and again.
For civil industry this time, the government is not using Apple or Telsa to building supply chain, but using Chinese brand to integrate global supply chain. But the core is the same, sharing the market and profit, finally get tecnologies and become self reliance.

I think government like Mexico don't even have capability to do th 0 to 1, like make its internal management into order as drug free, we are truly not in the same league.
China steals, that is a fact breaks property rights

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Su-33 never was on the license

The Trump administration has placed a high priority on investigating alleged Chinese efforts to steal intellectual property by forcing US companies to share their secrets if they wish to do business within China. In August, with great fanfare, the administration invoked Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 to open that investigation, signaling its willingness to impose penalties on China if it is found to have engaged in unfair practices.

Overlooked in the focus on direct investment, however, is another major effort that China uses to acquire technical information: repatriation of Chinese citizens able to bring home knowledge and skills acquired in foreign companies and on foreign campuses.


 
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China steals, that is a fact breaks property rights

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Su-33 never was on the license

The Trump administration has placed a high priority on investigating alleged Chinese efforts to steal intellectual property by forcing US companies to share their secrets if they wish to do business within China. In August, with great fanfare, the administration invoked Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 to open that investigation, signaling its willingness to impose penalties on China if it is found to have engaged in unfair practices.

Overlooked in the focus on direct investment, however, is another major effort that China uses to acquire technical information: repatriation of Chinese citizens able to bring home knowledge and skills acquired in foreign companies and on foreign campuses.


Oh, western governments, western media.



You can't expect them to say good things about China. This is a competitor, not a neighboring economic colony.



If they are to be believed, Iraq should have nuclear weapons. China has collapsed 1000 times.
 

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Oh, western governments, western media.



You can't expect them to say good things about China. This is a competitor, not a neighboring economic colony.



If they are to be believed, Iraq should have nuclear weapons. China has collapsed 1000 times.
Now the Chinese becomes offensive call us Colony and he calls him lord (Chinese Nazi) now you call your self Lord and defend China cheats well what kind I expect from Hypocrites.

All nations have Industry, in mexico we have industry but cheating has its price, Mexico let a Chinese National opened a company Solarever that receives direct investment from China but is claimed to be Mexican , Trump knew it, because Canadian solar is the same, how we paid? well tariffs, you call that colony, that shows why Chinese are corrupt and the way you think is of a corrupt person.

China cheats, and the price is of course is limit them from Stealing same is Russia, no more 117s engine, have to buy Su-35, no share joint program on PD-14 or PD 35.

We have a different way in mexico, they open their plants we do not ask joint venture by force or share technology by force, our suppliers are getting contracts upon real capitalists bases they have to earn it.

Safran and Albany inaugurated today, in Mexico, a third joint manufacturing plant to make composite parts for the LEAP aircraft engine. The inauguration ceremony was attended by Francisco Domínguez Servién, Governor of the State of Querétaro, Gerardo Ruiz Esparza, Mexico's Minister of Communications and Transport, Philippe Petitcolin, Chief Executive Officer of Safran, Olivier Andriès, Chief Executive Officer of Safran Aircraft Engines, and Joseph Morone, President and Chief Executive Officer of Albany International Corp.


We live in Mexico under true capitalism


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this mexican guy working for Safran is helping C919 fly
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Now the Chinese becomes offensive call us Colony and he calls him lord (Chinese Nazi) now you call your self Lord and defend China cheats well what kind I expect from Hypocrites.

All nations have Industry, in mexico we have industry but cheating has its price, Mexico let a Chinese National open a company Solarever that receives direct investment from China, Trump knew it, because Canadian solar is the same, how we paid? well tariffs, you call that colony, that shows why Chinese are corrupt and the way you think is of a corrupt person.

China cheats, and the price is of course is limit them from Stealing same is Russia, no more 117s engine, have to buy Su-35, no share joint program on PD-14 or PD 35.

We have a different way in mexico, they open their plants we do not ask joint venture by force or share technology by force, our suppliers are getting contracts upon real capitalists bases they have to earn it.
This thread is about Chinese engines. Mexico is also good. You can post a new thread dedicated to the Mexican engine.
 

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