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Russian military have one proverb regarding effectiveness of Air Defence System," Its like female's pubic hair, it cover the P##sy, but can't protect it."
Thats why USSR discarded Nuclear tipped SAM in favour of capable interceptors.
Even when you don't have 5th or 6th generation fighter, still you can counter it with tactics, Electronic Warfare & precise intelligence. Even poor Serbia shown it.
Its not movie that squadron of fighter bombers come & paralyse the country.
Even in Desert Storm it took thousands of sortie per day against Iraq.
Still they were fearful of their obsolete Scuds Missiles.
Can't India Simply bomb the shit out of that country with Cruise & Ballistic Missiles ?


Most Stealth bombers have standoff weapons, how would you guide such SAM's against stealth planes who also may carry Anti Radiation Missiles as well.

What would be radiation effect for densely populated country like in India in short & long term?

All Nuclear bombs denonate up in Air to make maximum damage.

Enemy would not submit their attack plan to us & not fight according to our convinience.

And 12000 km ICBM & 2500 - 3000 Km Cruise Missile, Hypersonic missile, SSBN armed with SLBM even with conventional warhead would not :pound:


So Does India


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I am the most vocal supporter of ICBM, long rage cruise missile, SSN & SSBN & large defence order but our force only order piecemeal size order.
Even if we make ICBM then what. They would order may be 10 to 12 piece :bplease:

Enough of Dhoti shivering
Why not simply take offensive stance, induct advance Radar, EW suites & Solution & capable interceptor in large nos.
Here IAF happily flying MIG 21 instead of LCA & you are dreaming of Nuclear SAM
Fu@kers shooting their own Helicopter despite IFF, crashing any plane in the inventory like piece of cake & you expecting to these incompetents to handle N-SAMS :devil:
We are not talking about conflict with Pakistan or Somalia but an technologically advanced country like the US, Russia or China(in about a decade or so). And how the hell will you bomb the shit out of the US when we are 10,000km(appx) away from them but their aircraft carriers can be next door to us and when they have many bases in the Indian Ocean area. We do not even have a 1000km cruise missile(only now there are reports of Nirbhay being deployed in small numbers) and our long range ballistic missile arsenal is less than 25 and used exclusively for nuclear weapons delivery.

If we are talking of conventional warfare we cannot even approach near the US but they can sit on your head here. Do you even recognise the asymmetry.

Mr Einstein, I am talking about a hypothetical war with the US in the future and not a war with Maldives. May never happen but should we not plan for worst case scenarios considering that the US Seventh Fleet came close to bombing us in the 1971 war.

I am sure that the US has wargamed a future possible war with India though they will not admit it. All countries do prepare for various contingencies.

If the enemy planes fire stand off missiles and munitions from several hundred kilometres away without violating our airspace then obviously we will not be firing nuclear tipped Sams at them. I was talking about our airspace being violated. Is it so difficult to understand.

The use of nuclear tipped Sams is envisaged in a particular situation where our air defence network is unable to adequately respond to an enemy air attack and our vital institutions are under threat.

What is the connection between an nuclear bomb explosion and anti radiation missiles. A nuclear bomb releases strong radiation but how will a anti radiation missile home in on a nuclear bomb. As far as I know anti radiation missiles are used to take out radars.

Have you taken the trouble to read on effects of nuclear bombs. Especially low yield tactical nuclear warheads. There is a lot of information available on the net. I was only stating that the effect of a 0.2kn bomb is very different from that of a 20 kn bomb. Nuclear artillery has been around for decades and a nuclear artillery shell does not destroy a city. Please read up on various types of nuclear weapons.

The Hiroshima nuclear bomb was dropped at a height of about 600 metres above the surface which is approximately 2000 feet. Modern combat aircraft fly even higher than 50,000 feet. So if the invading planes were at height of 40,000 feet our nuclear Sam would also explode around that altitude. So to say that all nuclear bombs are air bursts is over simplifying it.

In a conventional war you will never use an 12,000km ICBM to bomb the enemy. Usually IRBM's and ICBM 's are used for nuclear weapons delivery. Why are you getting confused and bringing in strategic weapons.

Appreciate your backing for a strong defence capability for India. Obviously there is room for improvement.
 

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Not to be left behind I predicted that somebody will come up with a 100 ton figure in the future and you took it seriously lol:pound:
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Typical fanboy conception: the bigger, the better?
Comparing to heavy missile, the lighter weight has the benefits in storage, maintenance, response time, transport maneuver.
US, Russia, China and France, their latest ICBMs are all over 10000km with <60ton weight, only fools will expect a 100 tons missile which can only sit in the silo.
 

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what if I were to tell you?

that DRDO morons intentionally sabotaged the gun barrel manufactured by Bharat Forge Ltd gun during user trails of ATAGS? would you believe me?

the gun barrel exploded during the first round itself. this is a clear indication of sabotage. previously the gun cleared all clinical trails and went to productions.
 

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what if I were to tell you?

that DRDO morons intentionally sabotaged the gun barrel manufactured by Bharat Forge Ltd gun during user trails of ATAGS? would you believe me?

the gun barrel exploded during the first round itself. this is a clear indication of sabotage. previously the gun cleared all clinical trails and went to productions.
Your second paragraph is answering your first paragraph 😂.
How did DRDO sabotaged its own project when trials is being taken by Army?
If previously Gun has cleared all trials then how DRDO managed to sabotage now?? Did DRDO changed faulty barrel??

Elbit has already paid kick back money so Some people are just working overtime including journalists
 

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Your second paragraph is answering your first paragraph 😂.
How did DRDO sabotaged its own project when trials is being taken by Army?
If previously Gun has cleared all trials then how DRDO managed to sabotage now?? Did DRDO changed faulty barrel??

Elbit has already paid kick back money so Some people are just working overtime including journalists
:shock: and here i thought the sabotage was to neutralize a competition from Kalyani group howitzers or the gun barrel made by kalyani
 

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Indian Navy, Air Force To Get Indigenous ‘Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon’ With 100 Km Range For Standoff Precision Strike

At its meeting earlier today, the Defence Acquisition Council, headed by the Defence Minister, cleared the procurement of the indigenously developed ‘Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon’ or SAAW for the Indian Navy and the Indian Air Force.

Developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), SAAW has a range of around 100 km and weighs around 125 kg.

The weapon, which is being procured at an approximate cost Rs 970 crore, will give the Air Force and the Navy the capability to hit enemy airfields and runways from a standoff distance with high precision during conflicts.
Given that this weapon can be launched from standoff ranges, the aircraft launching it can remain at a safe distance from the enemy target. In many cases, the weapon can be fired by IAF fighters from within the Indian air space.

Apart from SAAW, the DAC also cleared the procurement of Static HF Trans-receiver sets for field units of the Indian Army and the Air Force at an approximate cost of Rs 540 crore to enable seamless communication.
 

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Indian Navy, Air Force To Get Indigenous ‘Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon’ With 100 Km Range For Standoff Precision Strike

At its meeting earlier today, the Defence Acquisition Council, headed by the Defence Minister, cleared the procurement of the indigenously developed ‘Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon’ or SAAW for the Indian Navy and the Indian Air Force.

Developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), SAAW has a range of around 100 km and weighs around 125 kg.

The weapon, which is being procured at an approximate cost Rs 970 crore, will give the Air Force and the Navy the capability to hit enemy airfields and runways from a standoff distance with high precision during conflicts.
Given that this weapon can be launched from standoff ranges, the aircraft launching it can remain at a safe distance from the enemy target. In many cases, the weapon can be fired by IAF fighters from within the Indian air space.

Apart from SAAW, the DAC also cleared the procurement of Static HF Trans-receiver sets for field units of the Indian Army and the Air Force at an approximate cost of Rs 540 crore to enable seamless communication.
15 years from now? if things go well?
 

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:shock: and here i thought the sabotage was to neutralize a competition from Kalyani group howitzers or the gun barrel made by kalyani
For conspiracy we have SSR death thread😂😂😂. Please don't go into them.
For DRDO it doesn't matter who manufacturers their product. DRDO itself is trying to attract private players for better project completion.
 

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