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[utubekhiladi]

Not NAG, but it might be optionally mounted in Helina's version called Dhruvastra... for versatility.

Follow-up.

It's easier to hide behind smoke or topography from direct attack mode. Much harder to give from top-attack ones that'll dive in from high angles, but must be F&F.

If the Missile is going to be fired at direct attack mode, then older wire-guided is actually the better option, what a skilked operator can actually turn & bypass the smoke or silhouette... Unjammable too.

both IR and LASER seeker have pros and cons.

which one is best and dhruvastra, helina and nag contains which seeker?

 

[Bhadra]

The "whatever reason" is maintaining IIR lock on heat target with the landscape all around it being of same temp. is hard for a sensor.
The flares were mentioned to explain the decision mating capability of the guidance softwares in modern ATGMs vis-a-vis you incorrect assumptions that they home in straight at the target.

You sir, should work on your comprehensive skills beside acquiring basic knowledge on these tech (not addressing the rest, they're all wrong & you'll find the data on internet).

And about calling out your lie... as i said, I only had to make sure other people knew that you are not a trustworthy source & your claims can be 100% false. Or they might believe those to be true. Couldn't let that happen.


Manual command to line of sight or MCLOS are the older but jam-proof wireguided missiles, which are basically flown to the target by the operators.

Semi-automatic command to line of sight or SACLOS is the case where you laze the target & the missile homes in.

NAG is Fire&Forget but IRguided ATGM need as heat signature to track-while-maneuvering & home in to.

BUT if a dug-in tank was waiting all night with its engine off, or is driven under the midday sun of Thar, then its metal body would be of the same temp as the ground around it... So the missile's guidance system have trouble holding lock on it. In such situation laser-guidance has been opted for to guide the missile to the designated target.

Is not ideal. As it will unfortunately be direct attack & guiding lasers from operator can be blocked by dust or APS smokescreen. Meaning unlike loitering or maneuvering F&F warheads that may reacquire the target while maintaining level flight around it.

Hopefully it's just an alternative option. I'm not sure yet.

Your problems need to be claered by someone else...

 

[Bleh]

Your problems need to be claered by someone else...

Pfft.. The chap had to make a video & ignored facts to fit his needs. In reality it's much worse for shots from any lower angle (angled side-shot actually have best chances of catastrophic/crew kill).

ATGM's can be beaten but fact remains that top-attack can bypass blockers & has lesser penetrative distance, with almost guaranteed mission kill in form of (1) destruction of all optics & sensors other than the drivers sight (2) engine/track Mobility kill (3) gun/turret breakdown.
Best option for F&F.

Although I like that he talked about TOW 2B. It's wire-guided like I mentioned above, but still suffers from the direct fire weapons problems of getting visually blocked. Air-launched ATGMs like Helina could use its features though. I know it has Explosively Formed Penetrator, but not sure if it can do that.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

India's dhruvastra ATGM testfired

 

[ARVION]

Dhruvastra, India's anti-tank guided missile, test-fired successfully in Odisha - Watch

The flight trial of India’s anti-tank guided missile ‘Dhruvastra’ were successfully conducted at the Interim Test Range (ITR) in Odisha recently. According to reports, the trials of the helicopter-launched Nag Missile (HELINA), which has now been named as Dhruvastra anti-tank guided missile...

zeenews.india.com

 

[Suryavanshi]

Your problems need to be claered by someone else...

The guy is a tank enthusiast with a Law degree.
He is taking his white redneck junta on a ride why are u giving importance to him?

 

[Karthi]

Kalyani Developed UAV

 

[Karthi]

Small Turbofan & its components of Kalyani

 

[Karthi]

F17 Rifle kalyani manufactured designed bt ORSIS

 

[patriots]

Better photo......

 

[ARVION]

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Design of L& T Submarine (Not Sure)

Type 212 .

 

[Karthi]

 

[Karthi]

Type 212 .

Deleting

 

[Karthi]

 

[Karthi]

Sudarshan CIWS

 

[Suryavanshi]

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If I was head of the Media division of DRDO I would not let Indian Express anywhere near the test range.
This is the same Congi newspaper that used to write hit pieces on Tejas.

 

[patriots]

If I was head of the Media division of DRDO I would not let Indian Express anywhere near the test range.
This is the same Congi newspaper that used to write hit pieces on Tejas.

Bdw the reporter Indian express ....is from Odisha.....and he had reported first some tests......when the test was held from Chandipur

 

[Akula]

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Is this missile improved variant of previous one, because previous one had 4 control nozzles with boosters?

 

[Bhadra]

Pfft.. The chap had to make a video & ignored facts to fit his needs. In reality it's much worse for shots from any lower angle (angled side-shot actually have best chances of catastrophic/crew kill).
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ATGM's can be beaten but fact remains that top-attack can bypass blockers & has lesser penetrative distance, with almost guaranteed mission kill in form of (1) destruction of all optics & sensors other than the drivers sight (2) engine/track Mobility kill (3) gun/turret breakdown.
Best option for F&F.

Although I like that he talked about TOW 2B. It's wire-guided like I mentioned above, but still suffers from the direct fire weapons problems of getting visually blocked. Air-launched ATGMs like Helina could use its features though. I know it has Explosively Formed Penetrator, but not sure if it can do that.

Look you have declared that I have comprehension problems still I have understood what I wanted to drive home though I am least qualified to do that. Even DIAT, Then IAT could not educate me. Since morning every Keen Kumar posing as Scientist was trying to project a few things :

* That MMW seekers can not be applicable for ground launched system which is wrong.
* You have been singing about Fire and Forget capability as if it a magic. Fire and forget only relates to command to a missile which is final at the time of firing and there is no need to track the missiles like in MACLOS or some SACLOS or call wire guide or call it second generation.
* That LOAL is is not applicable to ground launched systems... which is also not correct... after all Nag is being launched from a BMP and not a ground launcher..
* That Fire and Forget as also Top attack can not be defeated - that is also incorrect.

And Finally that such missile system may be good in offensive ops but not so good in defenses as IR devices of tank will definitely discover the launcher at the first go. BMP will be taken on just after first launch of missile. Imagine what will happen to Bhoop Singh who fires 84mm Carl Gustav.

The issue of minimum range remains to be resolved..

The battle between ATGM and Tanks is quite old and will take a lot of time to resolve... That is where the DRDO has to step in and not justifying virtues of a minimum range of 700 m. which Nag had in initial offering. The project that started exactly due to China in 1962 (sixty years now ) must come to some apple falling event.

Thank you for the patience..

And yes .. that AMR is of no use at least for SF... they can carry it anywhere..

 

[Bajirao]

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There is need for a front view to see is this equiped with iir seeker or something else....btw the 'dhruvastra name' not related to dhruv helicopter.airforce don't use any armed dhruv version.