DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[south block]

Bro why defend the indefensible ?

OFB is bloated ,corruption ridden, full of cronyism and totally inefficient .

If it is corporatised by removing all government control and privileges then there is hope for it . Infact we might just be surprised.

And that doesn't mean private sector is without its ills . Relabelling foreign goods as own , not investing enough in own R&D are some of the shortcomings.

But pedigree is something which takes decades to build up . Companies like LM BAE BOEING MITSUBISHI HANWA etc persevered for decades to reach their current stage.

Blame solely lies on the government's of the past and the back biting fools we know as bureaucrats .

Pvt sector --- corporations --- chetoos sellers are simply communism for few rich oligarch shareholders nothing more nothing less. --- govt institutions do the same what Pvt sector do without conning the country and its people or creating financial distress down the line. --- making sure money stay with govt. --- Pvt sector inovation my a**. ---- majority of inovation on US is done using public money and by public institutions. --- while tiny rich oligarch shareholders of corporate America keep making million and billions without paying any taxes or making sure tax cuts save there buts like trump Kaka and republicans do in America and mudi ji and Congi do in India. ---- I will defend PSU and Govt institutions every time no matter what period.

 

[south block]

Its a Russian gun on a Russian BMP 2 FFS.


BTW I’m not saying its a bad move to upgrade the BMP2 but why glorify it!
Also we need a next generation common modular plateform of our own. Either in-house design or design acquiring from OEMs. Something like ARMATA for MBTs, SPH,IFV and other purposes .

So do you think Pvt sector India building it's own gun and not passing foreign maal as there own?

 

[Suryavanshi]

OFB leading the way once again.

I guess punj lyold is also leading the way isnt it? After all they are manufacturing Tavors.

Same OFB couldn't manufacture cellotape and springs few years ago.

Copy pasting isn't innovation.

 

[Suryavanshi]

majority of inovation on US is done using public money and by public institutions.

Site examples give quotation and sources prove your point or your posts might as well be considered spam.

 

[AbRaj]

So do you think Pvt sector India building it's own gun and not passing foreign maal as there own?

What is there to believe?
You argue like an idiot.
You are giving cradit to PSU for literally doing nothing but acting like a middlemen.
While you have problem with Pvt companies doing same work in fraction of cost and significantly better quality. Do you know majority of upgrades done now a days are actually done by same Pvt companies like L&T, TASL,Godrej Aero and dozens of other small companies ?
PSU except from few like BEML and BEL are utterly incompetent for any kind of work except May be routein repair and maintainance work. Don’t believe me? Check for the contracts awarded by IA/IAF/IN for upgrade/overhaul in last five years

Anyway Pvt companies tend to invest in the tech so that they can make profit. PSUs don’t because their job is going nowhere even if they do nothing in the hole financial year.


Try to understand it by taking example of BSNL. you as a customer don’t want an inferior service/product at an exhorbitent price. Simply switch to Airtel Jio or Voda whatever give you the best bang for the buck.

One more example is Auto sector.
No one buys HM Ambedsador anymore when you an get a Honda city or Hundai Verna at the lower price. (Or Tata harrier and Mahindra Alturas)

Anyway it first matter if the original designer is foreign (foreign mall as you say)as long as the IP is owned by the Indian company and the company is competent enough to improve on that design over time and learn from it to develop newer products.

 

[AbRaj]

Site examples give quotation and sources prove your point or your posts might as well be considered spam.

Lol he cant. :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
He is good only at:bs:

 

[south block]

Site examples give quotation and sources prove your point or your posts might as well be considered spam.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/government-funded-research-is-increasingly-funding-corporate-innovation

.Nearly a third of US patents rely directly on government-funded research, says

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...f-innovation-busting-the-private-sector-myth/
most of corporate are just money making machine for few filthy rich shareholders nothing else. ---- America has c***d itself to a large extent starting 1970s when chetoos sellers were allowed to run full throttle without much accountability.

What is there to believe?
You argue like an idiot.
You are giving cradit to PSU for literally doing nothing but acting like a middlemen.
While you have problem with Pvt companies doing same work in fraction of cost and significantly better quality. Do you know majority of upgrades done now a days are actually done by same Pvt companies like L&T, TASL,Godrej Aero and dozens of other small companies ?
PSU except from few like BEML and BEL are utterly incompetent for any kind of work except May be routein repair and maintainance work. Don’t believe me? Check for the contracts awarded by IA/IAF/IN for upgrade/overhaul in last five years

Anyway Pvt companies tend to invest in the tech so that they can make profit. PSUs don’t because their job is going nowhere even if they do nothing in the hole financial year.


Try to understand it by taking example of BSNL. you as a customer don’t want an inferior service/product at an exhorbitent price. Simply switch to Airtel Jio or Voda whatever give you the best bang for the buck.

One more example is Auto sector.
No one buys HM Ambedsador anymore when you an get a Honda city or Hundai Verna at the lower price. (Or Tata harrier and Mahindra Alturas)

Anyway it first matter if the original designer is foreign (foreign mall as you say)as long as the IP is owned by the Indian company and the company is competent enough to improve on that design over time and learn from it to develop newer products.

Pvt sector helps only its shareholders. --- tiny rich oligarchy shareholders to be precise. ---- Pvt sector inovation my a** ---- there is nothing called Pvt sector inovation in India.

 

[Karthi]

Tapas at Wind Tunnel Testing

 

[Karthi]

Airborne satellite communication terminal

 

[Karthi]

DRDO Daksh and its various components

 

[AbRaj]

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/government-funded-research-is-increasingly-funding-corporate-innovation

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...f-innovation-busting-the-private-sector-myth/
most of corporate are just money making machine for few filthy rich shareholders nothing else. ---- America has c***d itself to a large extent starting 1970s when chetoos sellers were allowed to run full throttle without much accountability.

Pvt sector helps only its shareholders. --- tiny rich oligarchy shareholders to be precise. ---- Pvt sector inovation my a** ---- there is nothing called Pvt sector inovation in India.

Abe ghochu isko bina padhe hi post kar diya na.
Article clearly states that its the Pvt companies are doing major work.
Govt is providing mainly funding. Its how western industry works.
What’s the problem here?

 

[south block]

Abe ghochu isko bina padhe hi post kar diya na.
Article clearly states that its the Pvt companies are doing major work.
Govt is providing mainly funding. Its how western industry works.
What’s the problem here?

time for you to read the article. ---- they are working on things done by public institutions using public money ( public money and institutions belongs to all not to few oligarchs shareholders) ---- likes of trumps in America and there cousins ambani ,Tata and other chetoos sellers are not doing path breaking research but piggy backing on things done by there respective govt institutions.

 

[AbRaj]

time for you to read the article. ---- they are working on things done by public institutions using public money ( public money and institutions belongs to all not to few oligarchs shareholders) ---- likes of trumps in America and there cousins ambani ,Tata and other chetoos sellers are not doing path breaking research but piggy backing on things done by there respective govt institutions.

Dear I’m done with you. Either You are wilfully acting like an Idiot or you don’t want to understand.
Sorry cant help you. Believe what you have to. Its too much of unnecessary work to make you understand pretty basic thing of economy

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Tata and other chetoos sellers are not doing path breaking research

Eat your own words. Tata and not government of India was the pioneer and still primary driver of path breaking researches in India including highly strategic techs.

In fact, Tata and other companies even owned many companies which became PSUs later under Indira Gandhi's nationalization program started. Underperformance, delays, corruption and cost overruns were only a thing for that nationalised era.

 

[Suryavanshi]

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...f-innovation-busting-the-private-sector-myth/
most of corporate are just money making machine for few filthy rich shareholders nothing else. ---- America has c***d itself to a large extent starting 1970s when chetoos sellers were allowed to run full throttle without much accountability.

Are u even surprised, they collect 300 billion from Corporate entities and more from Public to fund the research.

These are patents not profitable research or Critical research.
The Federal government provides fund to college for patents which are mostly states owned

And what do u think they give these technology to corporate entities for free? They work ok license basis nothing is free.

Here is the actually R&D spending

Source- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjABegQIBRAJ&usg=AOvVaw053VPmSoA66eYBUBU6acgM

 

[Suryavanshi]

Tata and other chetoos sellers

Yeah didn't know government was making new engines for Tata.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Eat your own words. Tata and not government of India was the pioneer and still primary driver of path breaking researches in India including highly strategic techs.

In fact, Tata and other companies even owned many companies which became PSUs later under Indira Gandhi's nationalization program started. Underperformance, delays, corruption and cost overruns were only a thing for that nationalised era.

DYK all?

Entire Indian space program and many key defense projects were initiatives of Tatas and not government?

 

[aditya10r]

In fact, Tata and other companies even owned many companies which became PSUs later under Indira Gandhi's nationalization program started. Underperformance, delays, corruption and cost overruns were only a thing for that nationalised era.

Dont you all get tired of this thulla.

Abbey thulle BSNL ka internet use kiya kar.

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[Assassin 2.0]

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[Karthi]

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Rumours that Agni 6 also tested , any news on that