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Thing is, at these kinds of velocities, the hardness of the materials don't matter. Even hardened RHA steel has different properties when meeting a hypervelocity object. Overall think of it like the pressure created at the contact point of the slug and armor steel exceeds its yield strength.

But it's true that the diameter of the copper liner matters. A small roadside efp mine which takes out a humvee won't be able to disable a mbt. A large enough efp mine would be eventually be able to disable a mbt class target, but at that point it might be too large to conceal or too cumbersome. A better trick is to fire the slug from top, where the armor in thinner.

Bill 2 ATGM with overfly-top-attack warhead.
TOW 2B heavy ATGM

Technically EFPs are a subset of the shaped charge or HEAT mechanism. Same copper plate will form a jet of metal instead of a solid slug if it's made more conical on the concave side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge

I mentioned EFP

EFP - explosively formed penetrator

Old pic of DRDO experimenting with EFP for off route mine

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Wait, so this looks very effective in ATGMs! Now that India is making progress in this tech, is any version of Indian atgm going to have this, other than regular ol' tandem shaped charge?

Also, can be dropped on enemy tank formations from Tejas...
Multi EFP Bomblets based warhead for Anti Ship missiles.

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DRDO NASM ( naval anti ship missile ) subsonic AShM
What's the status of this? Haven't read about it in any news...
 
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So, the first one to detonate ERA is EFP?
No the precursor charge at the front section disables the ERA first, then the main charge at the rear which is a powerful EFP warhead is fired to punch through the targets exposed armour

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Note the pic above

Precursor warhead - either a conventional explosive warhead or a small EFP warhead to defeat lastest gen ERA

Main warhead - always a powerful EFP warhead
 
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Another question; Why are the propeller designed to rotate in opposite directions to each other? Won't the resultant ambulance increase its signature?
No idea

Google for contrarotating propellors , you might find the answer to your questions

In the pic the propellors are for torpedo
 

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Another question; Why are the propeller designed to rotate in opposite directions to each other? Won't the resultant *turbulence increase its signature?
First of all kinda more bang for bucks that's why this type of propeller is used.
As you know when you give energy to something you want to get something in return that's where second propeller comes in.
Second it works on obstruction of cavity too.
That's what I know.
 

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Another question; Why are the propeller designed to rotate in opposite directions to each other? Won't the resultant *turbulence increase its signature?
On torpedos contra-rotating propellers are mainly used cause of the size limitation. Propeller diameter can't be more than the launch tube, and you can spin a single prop only so fast before cavitations kicks in and causes efficiency loss and noise. Torpedos need maximum speed from one time use expendable machinery. Ships don't use them cause prop size isn't limited so strictly and gearbox complexity would be too much.

Also helps with roll control in tubular torpedos since 2 props rotating opposite directions cancel each others torque.
 

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