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[Tuco]

What's difference between army vesrion
Lch
And iaf version lch
@porky_kicker
@Chinmoy
@IndianHawk
@NeXoft007

Army version has wheels so that it can roll in-front of tanks to give cover fire and has thick double stack era Armour and Iaf versions just fly nothing impressive

 

[Bleh]

If army and iaf needs ..then hal will do for them....

Bdw I was astonished to see auxiliary drop tank integration in lch...
There were no news....

Bdw may be it's. One of the requirement to get foc

Also there were some news on weight reduction

Any more info
@porky_kicker
@NeXtoft007

The only reason LCH is making good progress is because HAL has stopped waiting for their "needs", instead is making headstart on their own initiative & budget.

If 2 hardpoints already occupied by fuel-tanks then it'll carry no AAMs (already carries only 12 rockets per pod, against 19 in comparable competitors & 2×Helina ATGMs instead of 4)... 2 Mistrals on wing-tips will make room for meaningful combat payload.

BTW what's the news on weight reduction?

 

[porky_kicker]

The drop tanks on LCH are primarily to increase ferry range

 

[patriots]

Can anyone tell me these control surfaces are for which missile ?

Spoiler: lol, many will try, none will succeed

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@everyone
@Chinmoy
@sayareakd
@NeXoft007

For astra mk2.................
. ....................

 

[Bleh]

Can anyone tell me these control surfaces are for which missile ?

Spoiler: I doubt that anyone will get the correct answer

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@everyone
@Chinmoy

Now that's hard... Could be from Astra Mark2 (most likely), Akash 1S.

 

[patriots]

The only reason LCH is making good progress is because HAL has stopped waiting for their "needs", instead is making headstart on their own initiative & budget.

If 2 hardpoints already occupied by fuel-tanks then it'll carry no AAMs (already carries only 12 rockets per pod, against 19 in comparable competitors & 2×Helina ATGMs instead of 4)... 2 Mistrals on wing-tips will make room for meaningful combat payload.

BTW what's the news on weight reduction?

@NeXoft007 once said that hal is trying to reduce weight of lch by replacing the converter and ac ewupequipments
With all dc equipment s.

 

[Wisemarko]

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LCH fires BNG missile at ITR on January 2019.

Now what the heck is BNG missile ?

Mistral missile:
Read more- https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...lch-destroys-airborne-target-with-mis-455112/

 

[Bleh]

@porky_kicker
@Chinmoy
@sayareakd
@NeXoft007
@Indx TechStyle

Question:
We have seen images of the R-77 & R-73 shot by W.C. Varthaman,recovered by Pakistan (the ones later added after the 1st photo with only 2) which were in a condition for Pakistan to claim they were never even fired & no F-16 was downed!
Now that is worrying... If India launched a BVRAAM /MRSAM /LRSAM at Pakistan, would they then be able to recover the missile & steal the tech by handing it over to China for reverse-engineering?????????

If yes, then Pakis too shot AIM-120 at us, is there any chance we have recovered the missiles's seekers & studied them?

 

[porky_kicker]

This one is very interesting.

It is a shaped charged based , multistage warhead system to defeat deeply buried hardened targets.

Following are the components of the deep penetration multistage warhead system

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1. Precursor shaped charged warhead to defeat hardened sandwiched reinforced concrete layers with steel bar mesh and layers of reactive explosives.

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2. Follow through deep penetrating warhead ( 2 types ) to punch through exposed compacted earth / rocks / concrete structures

Also they are looking at rocket propelled follow through deep penetrating warhead to allow penetration to even greater depths.

Nobody interested in this ?

Seriously guys ?

This is a huge deal breaker

No current weapon system in the Indian inventory has the capability to defeat porky deeply buried and hardened WMD sites short of nukes.

Porky SPD uses NATO standardized build plans procured from US to build its WMD underground sites , overground structures are triple reinforced concrete slabs with layers of steel bar mesh , steel slabs and reactive explosives inbetween to defeat overhead strikes , nothing to say of the underground portions which have above same construction with layers of rock and soil above and below it along with massive concrete supporting bulkworks.

This multistage warhead system is our answer to porky deeply buried hardened structures conventionally. The rocket propelled follow on penetrator will be the hallmark if developed successfully. The rocket on the follow on penetrator will fire when the precursor shaped charged blasts through the first few layers of defence and punch through further defences inorder to reach the underground cavern whereby the sensors will activate and detonate the main charge at the rear of the penetrator. Literally icing on the cake.

Follow on penetrator is made of specially hardened materials to resist deformation when punching through layers of rock. A special alloy of tungsten carbide is being trialled .

Note : I know many will say brahmos has the capability to hit deeply buried underground sites. No it doesn't.

Note the warheads on brahmos and you will have your answer if yet undecided.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Nobody interested in this ?

Seriously guys ?

This is a huge deal breaker

No current weapon system in the Indian inventory has the capability to defeat porky deeply buried and hardened WMD sites short of nukes.

Porky SPD uses NATO standardized build plans procured from US to build its WMD underground sites , overground structures are triple reinforced concrete slabs with layers of steel bar mesh , steel slabs and reactive explosives inbetween to defeat overhead strikes , nothing to say of the underground portions which have above same construction with layers of rock and soil above and below it along with massive concrete supporting bulkworks.

This multistage warhead system is our answer to porky deeply buried hardened structures conventionally. The rocket propelled follow on penetrator will be the hallmark if developed successfully. The rocket on the follow on penetrator will fire when the precursor shaped charged blasts through the first few layers of defence and punch through further defences inorder to reach the underground cavern whereby the sensors will activate and detonate the main charge at the rear of the penetrator. Literally icing on the cake.

Follow on penetrator is made of specially hardened materials to resist deformation when punching through layers of rock. A special alloy of tungsten carbide is being trialled .

Note : I know many will say brahmos has the capability to hit deeply buried underground sites. No it doesn't.

Note the warheads on brahmos and you will have your answer if yet undecided.

I am interested, let's see if any test come into light or not.

 

[debspark90]

Nobody interested in this ?

Seriously guys ?

This is a huge deal breaker

No current weapon system in the Indian inventory has the capability to defeat porky deeply buried and hardened WMD sites short of nukes.

Porky SPD uses NATO standardized build plans procured from US to build its WMD underground sites , overground structures are triple reinforced concrete slabs with layers of steel bar mesh , steel slabs and reactive explosives inbetween to defeat overhead strikes , nothing to say of the underground portions which have above same construction with layers of rock and soil above and below it along with massive concrete supporting bulkworks.

This multistage warhead system is our answer to porky deeply buried hardened structures conventionally. The rocket propelled follow on penetrator will be the hallmark if developed successfully. The rocket on the follow on penetrator will fire when the precursor shaped charged blasts through the first few layers of defence and punch through further defences inorder to reach the underground cavern whereby the sensors will activate and detonate the main charge at the rear of the penetrator. Literally icing on the cake.

Follow on penetrator is made of specially hardened materials to resist deformation when punching through layers of rock. A special alloy of tungsten carbide is being trialled .

Note : I know many will say brahmos has the capability to hit deeply buried underground sites. No it doesn't.

Note the warheads on brahmos and you will have your answer if yet undecided.

Well I got the idea at the very first moment when I read this. Not that I am not interested in it, but I was skeptical as to will it really penetrate the hardened underground structures.

 

[porky_kicker]

Can anyone tell me these control surfaces are for which missile ?

Spoiler: lol, many will try, none will succeed

View attachment 38501

@everyone
@Chinmoy
@sayareakd
@NeXoft007

No further attempts ?

Let me assure you the answer will blow away your underwear

It's mind blowing actually even after your underwear gets blown away

So try

 

[Anikastha]

No further attempts ?

Let me assure you the answer will blow away your underwear

So try

related to isro's manned flight / some indigenous drone....or agni 6....

 

[Aashk]

..........................!

 

[Bleh]

No further attempts ?

Let me assure you the answer will blow away your underwear

It's mind blowing actually even after your underwear gets blown away

So try

Enough foreplay... Ab bola jay.

 

[Immortal]

S4 Star under construction now

Will will enter water? Also have we started working on S5 star or any along with it. If not then when will it’s work gonna start?
Thanks

 

[Immortal]

One correction, not the Russians, it was Bill Clinton though disguised as satellite launch tech.

That’s correct. In the 90s Chinese rockets suffered many satellite launch failures. American companies were encouraged to have their satellites launch from China and to ensure they are successfully launched satellite and other sensitive technology on the pretext that’s it’s done for USA self interest. End result was by end of 90s Chinese rockets ended up becoming reliable.

 

[IndianHawk]

No further attempts ?

Let me assure you the answer will blow away your underwear

It's mind blowing actually even after your underwear gets blown away

So try

Sfdr based missile or a new wvraam in development??

 

[IndianHawk]

@porky_kicker
@Chinmoy
@sayareakd
@NeXoft007
@Indx TechStyle

Question:
We have seen images of the R-77 & R-73 shot by W.C. Varthaman,recovered by Pakistan (the ones later added after the 1st photo with only 2) which were in a condition for Pakistan to claim they were never even fired & no F-16 was downed!
Now that is worrying... If India launched a BVRAAM /MRSAM /LRSAM at Pakistan, would they then be able to recover the missile & steal the tech by handing it over to China for reverse-engineering?????????

If yes, then Pakis too shot AIM-120 at us, is there any chance we have recovered the missiles's seekers & studied them?

The most sophisticated parts of missile are seeker and propulsion. When you fire a Sam / aam both systems are heavily used and suffer damage.

Not mush use of enemy.

 

[Bleh]

The most sophisticated parts of missile are seeker and propulsion. When you fire a Sam / aam both systems are heavily used and suffer damage.

Not mush use of enemy.

Yes it can't definitely be reused, but can it not be reverse engineered, or at least studied?
Varthaman's R-73 seeker seemed to have suffered similar damages other missiles had suffered due to the crash, still in one piece.