DEFEXPO-2022

[Aditya Ballal]

usually the I.P they generate stays with the company, will be useful in some other program.

Story of India’s MIC.

 

[jai jaganath]

All this work for just 120 odd orders, if a war ever happens the peacetime generals are going to be screaming for this thing

Post conflict we will be hearing from a general that if we had Arjun mk1a then the ops and result would have been different

 

[Knowitall]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

We ended up seeing this.

There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

 

[jai jaganath]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

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We ended up seeing this.

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There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

I didn't understand the geometric shaping of turret
I think in future the will add aps radars, electro-optical sensors, etc on it

 

[flanker99]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

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We ended up seeing this.

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There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

Is this a bmp upgrade or ficv prototype?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Gridbot titan

 

[Knowitall]

Is this a bmp upgrade or ficv prototype?

This is the FICV(supposed to be the future infantry vehicle lol)

 

[jai jaganath]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

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We ended up seeing this.

View attachment 176564

There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

Is that turret made l&t I mean is it designed to be fired

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Knowitall]

Is that turret made l&t I mean is it designed to be fired

Forget the turret the hul itself is a copy of BMP-2 when they were supposed to move towards new design's.

 

[Knowitall]

 

[flanker99]

This is the FICV(supposed to be the future infantry vehicle lol)

I name thee future indian canteen vehicle

 

[SUPERPOWER]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

View attachment 176563

We ended up seeing this.

View attachment 176564

There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

Indian army genrols ne aisa specs de kar deshbka paisa bachaya hai..

 

[abingdonboy]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

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We ended up seeing this.

View attachment 176564

There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

Remember how we were told that they bought Soviet cr@p but developed their own tactics? Instead they’ve been practicing a version of Soviet Cold War mech warfare concepts (rapid thrusts into enemy territory using lighter and more mobile APCs). This is how we end up with the disappointment of FICV- it’s built to the IA’s big brain ideology that they’ve never actually put into practice.

as I say, peacetime mentality is really showing, the power disparity between Ukraine and Russia is massive. Not so much between india and Pakistan and then there’s China….

i hope it doesn’t need 100s of soldiers to be sacrificed to get the clowns at the top to think like it’s the 21st century

‘strategic mobility’ is already used to kill off Arjun,delay ATAGS etc

 

[abingdonboy]

Post conflict we will be hearing from a general that if we had Arjun mk1a then the ops and result would have been different

‘If we had Rafale we would’ve done better’

always reactive

 

[jai jaganath]

‘If we had Rafale we would’ve done better’

always reactive

Exactly I was basically quoting BS dhanao accent

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Seeing this Defexpo we came a long way for indigenous weapons.

The number of products we have is mind boggling.
1. ATAGS
2. MGS
3. DHANUSH
4. MOUNTAIN ARTILLERY
5. ATGM- AMOGHA
6. ATGM- MPATGM
7.QRSAM
8.NAMICA
9.WHAAP
10.LCH
11.RUSTOM
12.TAPAS
13.UAV from private companies
14.UGV
15.Small arms from PSU and private


But so far major news are MIG 29 Upgrades, BMP 2 extension, ATHOS guns, 114 imported jets. Our generals will talk some technical jargons and shit on us by purchasing some limited indigenous maal.

The only saving grace is current GOI choking them on this negative list, if no one take this initiative I don't know how many above programs saw the light today.

 

[Love Charger]

At a time when we were supposed to move into this

View attachment 176563

We ended up seeing this.

View attachment 176564

There is no way to justify this. The entire things looks like a crude model of BMP-2 on display.

Moving towards this is not moving at all. We are still stuck with those same shits specs and hull with only minor improvements.

This and the bmp upgrade are both massive disappointments such turret changes and atgm will barely make any difference where most of the units would be taken down by a second gen atgm hidden properly.

I'm surprised they came up with this shit after seeing how BMP's have been faring in the Russia Ukraine war.

What is the name or above vehicle, we should simply order it tbh .

 

[Love Charger]

I did. Where they better or worse?

Its upto you sir ti decide

 

[fooLIam]

Seeing this Defexpo we came a long way for indigenous weapons.

The number of products we have is mind boggling.
1. ATAGS
2. MGS
3. DHANUSH
4. MOUNTAIN ARTILLERY
5. ATGM- AMOGHA
6. ATGM- MPATGM
7.QRSAM
8.NAMICA
9.WHAAP
10.LCH
11.RUSTOM
12.TAPAS
13.UAV from private companies
14.UGV
15.Small arms from PSU and private


But so far major news are MIG 29 Upgrades, BMP 2 extension, ATHOS guns, 114 imported jets. Our generals will talk some technical jargons and shit on us by purchasing some limited indigenous maal.

The only saving grace is current GOI choking them on this negative list, if no one take this initiative I don't know how many above programs saw the light today.

Choking is not enough. These guys should be shamed obviously not in public and fired for hinderance. Also major reforms should be made in their training institution.
Every government organisation have free hand so there is so much chaos. Order will be created when these guys will have fear of blowback.