Combat Aircraft technology and Evolution

Sridhar_TN

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not really.
Just an exemple : the 2 Sikorski used for the Bin Laden Pak raid. They were modified so as to be quieter and stealthier.
Quieter: true. Lower infrared signature: true. Lower RCS: partly true. The reduction in rcs is not significant enough.
For the most part, both these choppers flew under the radar for the bin laden strike. Most airborne vehicles can mask themselves performing nap of the earth flying
 

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not really.
Just an exemple : the 2 Sikorski used for the Bin Laden Pak raid. They were modified so as to be quieter and stealthier.
In general stealth or LO helicopters are pointlesd. This is the reason why the US Army killed off its Commanche program.

The best offensive capability of helicopters is the ability to fly low to evade radar. Here you don't need uber expensive Abottabad style stealth helicopter. Gulf War 1 proved that non-LO Apache can do the job of infilitrating enemy radar sites. So no need to spend more on fancy LO shaping and coating.
 

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It is one of the design goal of the Rafale my dear....

My dear please recollect your thoughts. You're lost in the bush. You were talking about the utility of stealth helicopters citing Abottabad raid:

not really.
Just an exemple : the 2 Sikorski used for the Bin Laden Pak raid. They were modified so as to be quieter and stealthier.
I replied that stealth choppers are pointless:

In general stealth or LO helicopters are pointlesd. This is the reason why the US Army killed off its Commanche program.

The best offensive capability of helicopters is the ability to fly low to evade radar. Here you don't need uber expensive Abottabad style stealth helicopter. Gulf War 1 proved that non-LO Apache can do the job of infilitrating enemy radar sites. So no need to spend more on fancy LO shaping and coating.
Now out of nowhere you injected Rafale my dear. How is that relevant to the issue of stealth helicopters?
 

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My dear please recollect your thoughts. You're lost in the bush. You were talking about the utility of stealth helicopters citing Abottabad raid:
If you agree flying low is an asset for Helo, why isn't be one for a fighter ? Just forget one minute that it is Rafale, and your brain will run healthily.

This asset was usefull when in July a turkish air base in Lybia with radars and SAM was bombed. And no montains to hide. Just... low flying and... Spectra. :crazy:
 

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If you agree flying low is an asset for Helo, why isn't be one for a fighter ? Just forget one minute that it is Rafale, and your brain will run healthily.

This asset was usefull when in July a turkish air base in Lybia with radars and SAM was bombed. And no montains to hide. Just... low flying and... Spectra. :crazy:

So you will replace a helicopter with Rafale on missions where helicopter is best optimized for just because Rsfale can also fly low? Brilliant! You're tying yourself in knots.

BTW, without Spectra, US Army Apaches destroyed Iraqi AD radars in the opening night of Desert Storm. That's what helicopters can bring to the fight aside from being able to insert troops without the need of an airstrip. Those Apaches were not designed to be stealthy to radar by shaping and coating.
 

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So you will replace a helicopter with Rafale on missions where helicopter is best optimized for just because Rsfale can also fly low? Brilliant! You're tying yourself in knots.

BTW, without Spectra, US Army Apaches destroyed Iraqi AD radars in the opening night of Desert Storm. That's what helicopters can bring to the fight aside from being able to insert troops without the need of an airstrip. Those Apaches were not designed to be stealthy to radar by shaping and coating.
Stop being stupid.
Your sole specialty.
 

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