China-Vietnam War (1979~1989)

[vietnam&india]

China not need your land, you wonder why China beat you and went away, because China only forced to deffend, in 1962, deffend against the "forward policy", in 1979 ask VN to withdrow from Cambodia and stop harassing the Southeast Asia.
If you think to occupy other countries land will get benefits, then you still live in colonial time. Looking at the French, they are regreting to colonize north Africa and make France a Muslim country. It's will be a big disaster for China if China took some land with some Indians or Veitnamese living on it.
Looking at Japan and Korea, both small land and no natural resources, but prospered, this is the way to develop, not the Saddam Hussin of Iraq way.

China, have you ever wondered why you haven't a true friend ? Can you tell me a neighbour that you have no conflict with ?
The Pol-pot attacked the border in south VN in 1975-1978 and kiled numerous Vietnamese , and who urged them to attack VN? Who supported that monster to attack Vn ? It's you, china fat guy !

 

[Ray]

China not need your land, you wonder why China beat you and went away, because China only forced to deffend, in 1962, deffend against the "forward policy", in 1979 ask VN to withdrow from Cambodia and stop harassing the Southeast Asia.
If you think to occupy other countries land will get benefits, then you still live in colonial time. Looking at the French, they are regreting to colonize north Africa and make France a Muslim country. It's will be a big disaster for China if China took some land with some Indians or Veitnamese living on it.
Looking at Japan and Korea, both small land and no natural resources, but prospered, this is the way to develop, not the Saddam Hussin of Iraq way.

China withdrew from the NE but not from Ladakh.

It is not because China was benign and large hearted.

NE was underdeveloped and China's logistic got extended so much so they would not be able to support ops. Also, artillery could not be moved up to support operations as the artillery could not be brought up through footpath, goat trails and tracks.

So, the Chinese acted smart and withdrew from the NE.

I Ladakh, there was no problem regarding logistics or movement of artillery since it was a plateau.

So, the Chinese did not withdraw!

French are regretting that they colonised Africa?

Wherever did you get that idea from?

Next you will say that UK is regretting colonising India because the Pakistani domiciles are creating havoc.

Please note, the problems are because they required manpower and the colonies provided the same after they got their independence and now they are wanting to behave like ghar jamais!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Vietnamese hate war but Chinese like it. Why?. Vietnamese forgotten about war in 1979 but Chinese still remember it. China say with Vietnam: We are friends. But they attacked Vietnam. In southwest of Vietnam, they have "Pol pot" as their allies.

genocide of Pol Pot

 

[Kunal Biswas]

"Massacre in Tong Chup, Hoa An district. Chinese troops invaded using bamboo poles, wood pounding beat 43 dead women and children thrown into wells". Shame for the so-called People's Liberation Army.



R I P ..

 

[W.G.Ewald]

[h=3]Support from China[/h]The P.R.C. was regarded as the main international support for the Khmer Rouge and its leader Pol Pot. The Chinese provided financial and military support to the party.[SUP][49][/SUP] China's motivation is believed to have been its intense rivalry with Vietnam at the time, which coincided with Pol Pot's plans to regain the ancient lands of the kingdom, which were and remain within neighbouring countries such as Vietnam.

[h=3]Support from the US and UK[/h] After the overthrow of the Khmer Rouge by the Vietnamese and the installation of a pro-Soviet, pro-Vietnamese government in Cambodia, the US and UK began supporting the deposed Khmer Rouge regime of Pol Pot. Due to American and British pressure, the Khmer Rouge retained the Cambodian seat in the United Nations for many years afterwards. John Pilger claims that from 1980 to 1986, the US and UK funneled $86 million to Pol Pot.[SUP][50][/SUP]
[h=3][edit] Support from UN[/h] During the Khmer Rouge regime, and a period of time directly after, the Khmer Rouge was recognised by UN as a legitimate government, and therefore held a seat at the UN.[SUP][51][/SUP] While many leaders at the UN attempted to appeal this, the majority allowed the Khmer Rouge (later titled "Democratic Republic of Kampuchea") to keep their seat for 15 years following the genocide.

Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[tandao]

The history is writen by human beings, must be writen from a specific view point, can not be 100% objective, for example, just as you stated "Pol-pot was urged to attack the border in south VN in 1975-1978, and who urged them to attack VN? China and US government", your statement is not correct. Pol-pot was follower of Mao, but a enemy of USA[FONT=宋体]，[/FONT]he can't be urged by the USA to attack VN, VN always much stronger then Cambodai, it's crazy for them to attack you, sure they were crazy,busy killing their own people for the sake of revolution, VN invited by Hun Sen to invade, not because attacked.
In 1974, after China defeated South VN over some south China sea island disputes, at that time the North VN cheered China and condemned the South VN, but years later, all the condemn goes to China by the same people, this is history.
After VN united and USA defeated and withdrew from the South East Asia, VN was a big bully in the region. China had to calm VN down a little, this is a fact.
VN people hate China, its easy to understand, in the forseeable future, VN have to live in the shadow of China.
China fought some wars with neighbours, but the situation changed, now China need to do business with everybody, need a good relationship with everybody, now it's not the time to solv disputes by war, but China will fight if no other way out.

See? Nothing will be changed, we are preparing to have a wars with China now

 

[Ray]

Prepare for a war with China, but don't go to war.

 

[mikhail]

China not need your land, you wonder why China beat you and went away, because China only forced to deffend, in 1962, deffend against the "forward policy", in 1979 ask VN to withdrow from Cambodia and stop harassing the Southeast Asia.
If you think to occupy other countries land will get benefits, then you still live in colonial time. Looking at the French, they are regreting to colonize north Africa and make France a Muslim country. It's will be a big disaster for China if China took some land with some Indians or Veitnamese living on it.
Looking at Japan and Korea, both small land and no natural resources, but prospered, this is the way to develop, not the Saddam Hussin of Iraq way.

the reality was that ur country didn't have the gut to capture populated Indian soil in 1962.u only captured some barren uninhabited land(Akshai Chin).n none of us iNDIANS will forget the way china invaded us when we were having peace talk with chin leaders.but don't u worry my dear if u ever attack us again we'll teach u such a lesson this time which none of u will forget for the next couple of centuries!

 

[Ray]

Please desist from calling the Chinese pandas and other silly stuff.

Get matured!

I view this as very incorrect and will not hesitate to remove the same or even delete the post.

Chinese members may bring any deviation to my notice through a PM.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

You had to pull the trigger..

 

[mikhail]

Please desist from calling the Chinese pandas and other silly stuff.

Get matured!

I view this as very incorrect and will not hesitate to remove the same or even delete the post.

Chinese members may bring any deviation to my notice through a PM.

okay my mistake.but sir with due respect i haven't abused them or anybody.i was just calling them by the name of their national animal which is the panda.but if i have unintentionally hurt someone i m sorry n i won't use that term again

 

[Ray]

Fine.

Reproduce your post without such terms.

 

[ice berg]

What you against pandas anyway.

Watch this and cheer up:

 

[mikhail]

Fine reproduce your post without such terms.

how sir?i mean do i have to retype it or should i edit?

 

[Ray]

OK.

Here is your post.

See? Nothing will be changed, we are preparing to have a wars with China now

yeah mate prepare against a possible deleted invasion against ur country.if u guys need any sort of help we Indians will be more than happy to help ur country.don't trust the chipandas,they always sweetmouth from outside but if they ever get a chance they will surely hit ur most vunerable position with all of their might.but the good news is that this is 21st century.so probably if they try to invade vietnam silently our(Indian) satellites will surely detect their large scale troop movement well inside their territory n will surely inform ur country.in this way u guys will get some valuable time for strengthening ur defences.so mate no need to worry about the chipandas we(Indians) r watching their every move near the vietnam border!

 

[tandao]

<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">The history is writen by human beings, must be writen from a specific view point, can not be 100% objective, for example, just as you stated "<font color="black">Pol-pot was urged to attack the border in south VN in 1975-1978, and who urged them to attack VN? China and US government", your statement is not correct. Pol-pot was follower of Mao, but a enemy of USA</font></span></font><font color="black"><span style="font-family: 宋体">，</span></font><font color="black"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">he can't be urged by the USA to attack VN, VN always much stronger then Cambodai, it's crazy for them to attack you, sure they were crazy,busy killing their own people for the sake of revolution, VN invited by Hun Sen to invade, not because attacked.</span></font><br>
<font color="black"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">In 1974, after China defeated South VN over some south China sea island disputes, at that time the North VN cheered China and condemned the South VN, but years later, all the condemn goes to China by the same people, this is history.</span></font><br>
<font color="black"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">After VN united and USA defeated and withdrew from the South East Asia, VN was a big bully in the region. China had to calm VN down a little, this is a fact.</span></font><br>
<font color="black"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">VN people hate China, its easy to understand, in the forseeable future, VN have to live in the shadow of China.</span></font><br>
<font color="black"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">China fought some wars with neighbours, but the situation changed, now China need to do business with everybody, need a good relationship with everybody, now it's not the time to solv disputes by war, but China will fight if no other way out.</span></font>

<br><br>You dont know the true history, take sometime to dig deeper, you will see how bad your old leaders are, DMF<br><br>Also, I hear a &nbsp;that 95%&nbsp;Chinese&nbsp;hate their&nbsp;government, is this correct?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[tandao]

OK.

Here is your post.





yeah mate prepare against a possible deleted invasion against ur country.if u guys need any sort of help we Indians will be more than happy to help ur country.don't trust the chipandas,they always sweetmouth from outside but if they ever get a chance they will surely hit ur most vunerable position with all of their might.but the good news is that this is 21st century.so probably if they try to invade vietnam silently our(Indian) satellites will surely detect their large scale troop movement well inside their territory n will surely inform ur country.in this way u guys will get some valuable time for strengthening ur defences.so mate no need to worry about the chipandas we(Indians) r watching their every move near the vietnam border!

Thank you, Indian. Were are preparing but we are trying to avoid also.

Cheers

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What you against pandas anyway.

Watch this and cheer up:

 

[mikhail]

Thank you, Indian. Were are preparing but we are trying to avoid also.

Cheers

yeah mate u should avoid getting involved in a direct full scale war with the chinese but u should also be well prepared for thwarting any possible invasion from the chinese side.i mean they have already invaded ur country once n there's absolutely no guarrantee that they won't try to invade vietnam in the near future becoz of ur country's close proximity with India recenly.so better be prepared for that!:thumb: