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nitesh

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all other nations in the world should produce more girls, and abort the boys. this way, when that huge 32 million strong macho chinese army comes to make trouble, let the women out. that'll stop them in their tracks!
this is interesting viewpoint:blum3:
 

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What a strange article. A skewed sex ratio is generally associated with an increase in crimes against women, female trafficking for prostitution, sex-slavery etc. but to suggest that this would affect Chinese foreign policy is rather far-fetched.

In the last survey done by the government in 1990, India had around 25 million excess males due to female foeticide, especially prevalent in North Indian states. This number is obviously larger now, but I don't see it making India's army more aggressive or anything.
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China may build up to six aircraft carriers

China may build up to six aircraft carriers

At the Chinese Navy’s coming out party this week in the northern port of Qingdao, the buzz is all about aircraft carriers. Everyone wants to know if the People’s Liberation Army will soon confirm a decision on building carriers.

China’s debate on aircraft carriers is not new. For some years now there has been an open debate within the strategic community on the benefits and costs of acquiring carriers. The debate has in fact been about the kind of naval power that Beijing should become.

For the nationalists, building aircraft carriers is all about underlining China’s rise in the international system. Pointing to history, they argue that all great powers build strong navies. And nothing demonstrates the maritime power of a nation than an aircraft carrier.

The enthusiasts of sea-power in China insist that without aircraft carriers, China will be unable to secure its growing interests far from the national shores and in defending against threats to its massive sea-borne trade. They highlight the fact that China is the only major power in the world today without a carrier capability.

The more prudent among the Chinese strategists caution against building aircraft carriers. They argue that blind pursuit of maritime ambitions might put Beijing on a premature collision course with the world’s dominant naval power, the United States.

Those advocating that China should bide its time propose that Beijing must concentrate instead on defensive naval capabilities that will deny ocean spaces near its teritory to the United States.

The indication in the last couple of years has been that the nationalists might be winning the argument. When China announced its decision last December to dispatch a flotilla to the Gulf of Aden, the first Chinese naval mission away from its shores, it dropped a hint that major decisions may have already been made on the carriers.
 

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China parades naval might

BEIJING (AFP) — China paraded its warships and nuclear submarines Thursday in an unprecedented display of maritime might attended by 14 other nations to mark the 60th anniversary of its navy.

Fifty-six Chinese subs, destroyers, frigates, missile boats and planes were displayed off the eastern port city of Qingdao just weeks after tensions flared following a naval stand-off with the United States in the South China Sea.

The review -- only the fourth to take place since 1949 and the first on such a large and international scale -- was opened by two of China's nuclear-powered submarines, the first time in history they have been unveiled to the public.

President Hu Jintao boarded the destroyer Shijiazhuang, after having sought to reassure the heads of foreign navy delegations that China's maritime power posed no threat to anyone.

"Both now and in the future, no matter to what extent we develop, China will never seek hegemony," he said, in comments reported by Xinhua.

But Jean-Pierre Cabestan, professor of political science at Hong Kong Baptist University, described the event as "a show of force, of power".

"It's a public relations display with a double message -- China as an integrator, showing it is keeping with the rules of the international game, but also showing it is now in the big power arena," he said.

Ships from 14 countries, including the United States, Russia and France, took part in the fleet review, which Chinese officials have said is aimed at promoting understanding about China's military development.

"Suspicions about China being a 'threat' to world security are mostly because of... lack of understanding about China," Ding Yiping, deputy commander of the navy, told the official Xinhua news agency this week.

China has always stressed its military build-up, watched with a wary eye by the United States -- which accuses the Chinese of a lack of transparency -- does not pose a threat to other countries.

A number of recent incidents at sea have heightened tensions.

In March, the US complained that Chinese boats had harassed one of its ships in the South China Sea, forcing it to take action to prevent a collision.

China denied the claim and accused the US vessel of "illegal activities".

Early this month, China's dispatch of civilian patrol vessels to waters around disputed islands in the same sea -- the Spratlys -- sparked concern from the Philippines, which also claims sovereignty over the archipelago.

China's increasing maritime confidence was also reflected in its decision to send ships to the Gulf of Aden, off the coast of Somalia, for an anti-piracy assignment in the first potential combat mission for its navy beyond its territorial waters.

And the navy's commander-in-chief, Admiral Wu Shengli, said this month China would develop a new generation of warships and aircraft to give it much longer-range capabilities.

But Cabestan said China's navy still lagged behind other countries, with no aircraft carriers despite plans to build some.

"In terms of technology they are still far behind the Americans, the Japanese, or even the Russians, but in tonnage, they have now become the first navy in Asia," he said.

The United States, which has sent navy chief Admiral Gary Roughead and the destroyer USS Fitzgerald to the event, would be watching the parade very closely, Cabestan said.

"The United States are participating, they are playing the card of integration, of the policy of engagement," he said.

"But they are also watching attentively the progress of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), all the new missions that the Chinese navy do."

Sixty years ago, the PLA's navy was formed when a unit of the Kuomintang's coastal defence fleet defected to the rival communists, bringing with it nine warships and 17 other boats.

Kuomintang nationalist forces had been locked in a civil war with the communists, who eventually won and came to power on October 1, 1949.

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The Chinese are ramping up their navy. Read somewhere that their naval presence in the IOR is more than that of IN. It is a cause for concern to India and has to be countered. We need the subs and the carriers in quantity, esp the subs.
 

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India joins China’s naval parade

QINGDAO: China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) kicked off a grand ceremony to mark the 60th anniversary of its Navy on Monday off the coast of the eastern city of Qingdao.

PLA Navy Commander Admiral Wu Shengli announced the start of the four-day festivities. It would include seminars, a sampan race and a fleet parade.

A total of 21 naval vessels from 14 countries including India and delegations from 29 countries will join the parade. The PLA Navy was founded on April 23, 1949, with nine warships and 17 boats obtained after a unit of the Kuomintang’s second coastal defence fleet defected to the PLA.

“The Navy will move faster in researching and building new-generation weapons to boost the ability to fight in regional sea wars under the circumstance of information technology,” Navy Commander Admiral Wu Shengli told Xinhua earlier.

In addition to ships, aircraft and torpedoes, long-range missiles with high accuracy, submarines with superb invisibility and endurance and electronic weapons and facilities were also on the Navy’s agenda.

He said the Navy would have more equipment for offshore repair, high-seas dispatch, large-scale rescue and supply among others.

According to Admiral Wu, the Navy will add the capacity for non-war actions to the Army’s power, especially emergency offshore search-and-rescue and anti-terrorism activities.

Since 2003, President Hu Jintao has repeatedly inspected the Navy and made suggestions on its construction.

Current threats to the country’s security came mostly from sea, said Mr. Hu who is also chairman of the Central Military Commission. He urged the Navy to achieve sound and fast development and enhance defensive operations with information technology.

Mehta’s visit

The officer said the celebrations would be an opportunity for foreign navies to have intensive and close observation of the PLA Navy’s facilities and personnel.

On the maiden visit of an Indian Navy chief to China, Admiral Sureesh Mehta will be attending the fleet review during his week-long tour, an official said in New Delhi.

Seeking to engage the Chinese military on a greater level, Admiral Mehta flew to China on Saturday night and would return on April 25.

INS Mumbai and INS Ranveer, the guided missile corvette INS Khanjar and the tanker INS Jyoti are participating in the review. Pakistani warships also are taking part.

“Mehta will also be visiting ships and submarines of the Chinese Navy during this trip and will be calling on Chinese Defence Minister Liang Guanglie on April 22, said an officer.

Indian and Chinese warships have been making calls at each other’s ports as part of growing confidence building measures between the two sides.

The Indian Navy chief’s visit follows that of Admiral Wu’s to India last year. Indian Air Force chief, Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major, has also visited China.

The two armies undertook their first joint exercise at Kunming in Yunnan province in December 2007 and the second at Belgaum last December. The two countries signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in May 2006 that they would hold joint military exercises.

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There is nothing new in Chinese providing assistance to Pakistan in Nuclear technology. When Chinese equipment form the majority portion in Pakistani military, why not nuclear weapons? After all, it was a large scale help by the Chinese and technology by some European sources that enabled Pakistan becoming a nuclear power.

I must say that it was very foolish for India not to provide Taiwan with nuclear technology at the same level. Constant tit-for-tat with Chinese would keep their needless aggression down.
 

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China is no great power

China is no great power | The Australian



China is no great power



Carl Ungerer | April 15, 2009
Article from: The Australian

CHINA looms large in Australian foreign and defence policy debates at the moment. From investment in our resource companies to cyber-espionage, the local commentariat seems fascinated by every detail of the Middle Kingdom and its nefarious activities.

The Weekend Australian reported last Saturday that assessments of China are the subject of high-level bureaucratic dispute among the defence and intelligence agencies. Cameron Stewart and Patrick Walter's report said that resolving these disputes would be the central theme of the forthcoming defence white paper.

The rise-of-China thesis is being touted by some strategic analysts as the principal challenge of our generation. It's not, and here's why.

China is not a great power, by any stretch of the imagination. Those who paint it as such either don't understand the nature of power in the international system or are wilfully mischievous. A great power is one that has global reach and influence. Britain in the mid-18th century was such a power, single-handedly defeating the combined navies of France and Spain.

The Soviet Union achieved great-power status after World War II, but mostly because of its primacy among the communist countries in the ideological struggle with the West.

Today, only the US is a great power. Abraham Lincoln instinctively knew this in 1838 when he said, "All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest, with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from theOhio."

A great power is one whose total destruction would require a coalition of other powers. Great power also describes a position of leadership and a moral purpose. None of these things describe China.

China today is like Italy of the 19thcentury, a mid-ranking power with a big appetite but poor teeth. China wants to prove itself in the councils of the world. And Beijing has made some strides towards being a more responsible stakeholder in the international system.

But a sober assessment of China's military and political strength would not put it in the first rank of powers.

After three decades of economic growth, China's military modernisation program has made it a more potent force. But China still doesn't have a single aircraft carrier. The US has more than a dozen.

According to some estimates, China spends about $70 billion each year on defence. The US spends 10 times that amount. The gap is wide and it isgrowing.

On any index of power, Japan is the more dominant player in north Asia. China has the power to frustrate its neighbours and to be a nuisance in the South China Sea. But it is incapable of projecting force beyond those narrow geographic confines.

So the main strategic issue is about what China will look like in 20 or 30years. And that's an interesting question. But suggestions that China will overtake American primacy are fanciful. They rely on linear projections of economic growth rates that in the present global circumstances are far from assured.

China remains a one-party communist state, a model of political leadership that has no one protesting in thestreets.

Ten years ago Gerry Segal, of the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, asked an important question: Does China matter?

As he said at the time, it's not a silly question, just one that doesn't get asked often enough.

It's time for policymakers to ask that question again.

China is home to one-fifth of the world's population. And it certainly matters to the people who live there. But China remains grossly overrated as a market, a military power and a source of ideas.

It is a second-rank military power with grand aspirations but limited capacity to achieve them. For Segal, it was a country that had mastered the art of diplomatic theatre, but not muchelse.

Today Canberra wavers between seeing China as an economic goldmine and a strategic threat. Half the bureaucracy works on negotiating bilateral trade deals with Beijing while the other half tries to stop the onslaught of Chinese cyber-espionage.

China clearly matters more to the world than it did 10 years ago. It is a growing power in our region and one that will be crucial to the long-term stability and prosperity of Asia.

But Segal's assessment is still closer to the mark. And until policymakers in Canberra fully appreciate that fact, wewill continue to get our China policy wrong.

Carl Ungerer is director of the national security project at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in Canberra. These are his personal views.
 

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Agreed that he isn't powerful now, but he most certainly is improving and gaining ground... in fact, he's getting more punching power than he ought to have...

Also agree that he's very good at diplomatic theater and that the market is extremely overrated. But, due to that diplomatic theater other countries are taking him seriously and he gets what he wants. We don't...
 

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Yes mate that's worth a 'Thanks'. I saw this in the press here last week and failed to put it up myself.
 

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It's the Mandirin speaking PM of Australia that started to out China on a high pedestal. What he failed to realize is that China makes friends only to exploit it to suit it's own interest. Australia will continue to be target of Chinese spies as it is an important US ally.
 

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prc might not be a leading global power for now but come 2025 and the world order would have changed a lot and this is a realisation that has sunk in pretty well in the thinking of the present leadership of australia. australia has gone out of its way to accommodate this rising economic power in its scheme of things and the way the things look, in coming decade australia will be one of the leading sources of raw material to prc and one will find australia getting more closer to prc, the foundation has been laid down well. australia would not like to have a country which has the potential of being a great power as its adversary and so one sees a change in their policy towards prc.


as of date prc is not that significant and their role is primarily limited to their side of asia but lets not get fooled by this.
1 they see india as a rival which if might not match them completely will certainly challenge them in times to come and for that they are on a diplomatic offensive and have tried to corner us from all sides and almost all our neighbors have a good relationship going with them and now prc has out placed india as their biggest trading partner and this relationship is not just limited to economic ties but military ties as well. a perception of india being the big daddy of south asia has been created which bullies around its neighbors and seeing this as an opportunity they have chipped in with their goodies.
2 prc's second target has been the energy resources rich countries. they understand pretty well that in the next few decades the major reason of tensions at the international level will be over sourcing of these raw materials which run our day to day lives and for that they have gone to CAR, africa, australia and latin america. prc has gone to the extent of collaborating with people who might be seen as doing genocide in their countries but this policy goes down well with the host of that country and they are welcomed whole heartedly in these countries.
3 prc has now started focusing on securing its sea lanes a role that till date has been primarily played by the US. one cant see prc openly challenging the might of US but they will certainly try and sneak in where ever they can and increase their strategic depth way beyond the borders of asia by stationing their military assets.
4 one would wonder if the future wars will be the conventional way or will they be through the cyber way but in case it is through the cyber way then they are consolidating themselves there by having an army of these hackers who are fully supported by the cpc who can all be unleashed when the need arises.
these are just a few of many examples of how prc is trying to grow its influence.


i doubt prc will be allowed to take the center stage by the west thanks to their credentials of being a communist state which will always be a bone of contention and something that will only build the mistrust further between west and east. there are two ways of countering the emerging threat of prc. either there will be a direct confrontation with the west where taiwan will be used and they will be asked to officially announce their independence which will irk prc and then one could see military confrontation happen where prc will be significantly cut to size so that they can not challenge in the foreseeable future or the other way will be a repeat and an entry to the era of cold war between US and nato on one side and russia and prc on the other with the backing of few countries which sympathise with the two mentioned communist regimes and this will be used in ways so that prc gets drained economically in a big way and of course militarily and with this strategy in place one could possibly see a repeat of what happened to USSR which was dismembered.


prc might just be playing the diplomatic game for now where military role is limited but clearly it is laying a strong foundation for the future and a future where they might not be the “sole” super power but certainly a part of the multi polar power centers of which they might be the most significant country. i am sure when a term like a great power is associated with them then that has most of its reference to the future and not what present day prc is like.
 

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It's the Mandirin speaking PM of Australia that started to out China on a high pedestal. What he failed to realize is that China makes friends only to exploit it to suit it's own interest. Australia will continue to be target of Chinese spies as it is an important US ally.
Prime Minister Rudd dreams on with his ex diplomatic ego and thinks exactly that. Flying around the world endlessly by private RAAF jet with his fat wife and troupe of hangers on.
We on the right of politics who don't vote for him know this, but just have to wait until Australia comes to it's senses again and gets rid of Socialism once it has put our country into huge debt and the hand outs have ceased.
We are aware that China is using us for their own ends.

Rudd and that Chinese speaking junk is an embarrassment we can do without you knowing.
 

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Prime Minister Rudd dreams on with his ex diplomatic ego and thinks exactly that. Flying around the world endlessly by private RAAF jet with his fat wife and troupe of hangers on.
We on the right of politics who don't vote for him know this, but just have to wait until Australia comes to it's senses again and gets rid of Socialism once it has put our country into huge debt and the hand outs have ceased.
We are aware that China is using us for their own ends.

Rudd and that Chinese speaking junk is an embarrassment we can do without you knowing.
Will full negligence then on the part of the Aussie government? Or are they following a short sighted policy of making a quick buck right now from China at the expense of national security threat which the government feels is not that grave right now and will confront easily in the future when the need arises?
 

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Rudd sees the world as his play thing to travel in and has a fully staffed RAAF jet to take him and his wife to the next luxury hotel and diplomatic party. China is just another venue.
 

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Yes mate that's worth a 'Thanks'. I saw this in the press here last week and failed to put it up myself.
yes,I want to thank you ,too.I have read it ,but I failed to translate it into English.
 

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China, U.S. firms sign over $10 bln deal

China, U.S. firms sign over $10 bln deal

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China, U.S. firms sign over $10 bln deal_English_Xinhua



WASHINGTON, April 27 (Xinhua) -- Chinese and U.S. firms signed 32 trade and investment contracts on Monday worth some 10.6 billion U.S. dollars, which the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said will support U.S. economic growth and job creation.



U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke (L) meets with
visiting Chinese Commerce Minister Chen Deming
at the US Commerce Department in Washington,
the United States, on April 27, 2009.(Xinhua/Zhang Yan)​


"With businesses in both countries struggling, these deals come at a critical time and will help create jobs and stronger commercial bonds between the United States and China," said Myron Brilliant, the chamber's senior vice president of international affairs, who presided over the signing ceremony.

Companies like China Mobile, Lenovo, Amway, Cisco, Dell, Emerson, EMC, Ford, Freescale and Hewlett-Packard signed deals at the ceremony.

"The Chinese government does not pursue a trade surplus with the U.S.," visiting Chinese Commerce Minister Chen Deming wrote in an article published on The Wall Street Journal on Monday.

"We will continue to encourage Chinese companies to import more from the U.S., and we will also welcome U.S. companies and trade-promotion agencies to be more active in China," said Chen.




U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk (L) meets with
visiting Chinese Commerce Minister Chen Deming at the
US Trade Representative Office in Washington,
the United States, on April 27, 2009.(Xinhua/Zhang Yan)​


Prior to the signing ceremony, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the China Chamber of Commerce for Import and Export of Machinery and Electronic Products hosted a forum, at which senior American and Chinese business executives spoke about the importance of U.S.-China cooperation in addressing shared economic, geo-strategic, and environmental challenges.
 

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