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This data table looks at last month’s total SUV sales volumes in the United States by model. We compare U.S market SUV sales for last month with the same month last year. We also include the year to date sales numbers and compare with the same year to date numbers from last year. With both monthly and YTD sales numbers we have a growth rate column so you can better gauge an individual SUV sales success in the U.S market.



ModelMonthMonth LYChangeYTDYTD LYYTD Change
Ford F-Series69,46770,566-1.56286,978310,538-7.59
Toyota RAV442,67533,67726.72206,559148,76738.85
Honda CR-V37,22433,52111.05164,494132,53824.11
Toyota Camry25,91328,060-7.65130,689122,0367.09
Honda Civic23,98716,11048.90107,95977,97538.4
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2024-u-s-auto-sales-figures-by-model-all-vehicle-ranked/

Tariffs work
 

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Overproduction is when capitalists produce too much compared to the demand for things or services. Suddenly capitalists build up stocks of things they cannot sell, they have factories with too much capacity compared to demand and they have too many workers than they need. So they close down plant, slash the workforce and even just liquidate the whole business. That is a capitalist crisis.



Overcapacity at the Gate

China's policy plans will compound the growing imbalance between domestic supply and demand, setting China on course for a trade confrontation with the rest of the world.





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Did these communists study capitalism? uhmm it seems they did not, but they have greed

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Better listen music from germany the future leaders of the world
 
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Automóveis e comerciais leves mais vendidos — abril/2024

ModeloUnidades vendidas
1°) Volkswagen Polo12.434
2°) Fiat Strada11.497
3°) Chevrolet Onix9.087
4°) Fiat Argo8.599
5°) Hyundai HB208.194
6°) Chevrolet Onix Plus7.049
7°) Volkswagen T-Cross6.224
8°) Toyota Hilux5.707
9°) Chevrolet Tracker5.670
10°) Fiat Mobi5.420
11°) Volkswagen Saveiro5.373
12°) Hyundai Creta5.335
13°) Volkswagen Nivus5.259
14°) Renault Kwid5.062
15°) Nissan Kicks4.582
16°) Jeep Renegade4.382
17°) Honda HR-V4.285
18°) Jeep Compass3.914
19°) Fiat Toro3.896
20°) Fiat Fastback3.885
21°) Toyota Corolla Cross3.754
22°) Fiat Pulse3.539
23°) Fiat Cronos3.403
24°) BYD Dolphin Mini3.143
25°) Toyota Corolla3.110
26°) Caoa Chery Tiggo 73.026
27°) Caoa Chery Tiggo 5X2.731
28°) Chevrolet Montana2.534
29°) Chevrolet S102.473
30°) Volkswagen Virtus2.456
31°) Ford Ranger2.382
32°) Chevrolet Spin2.321
33°) Toyota Yaris2.227
34°) Renault Duster2.070
35°) Hyundai HB20S2.065
36°) Ram Rampage1.756
37°) BYD Song Plus1.699
38°) Toyota Yaris Sedan1.670
39°) BYD Dolphin1.619
40°) Renault Kardian1.581
41°) Citroën C31.537
42°) Peugeot 2081.472
43°) Fiat Fiorino1.454
44°) Mitsubishi L2001.257
45°) GWM Haval H61.202
46°) Citroën C3 Aircross1.120
47°) Renault Oroch1.120
48°) Nissan Frontier1.119
49°) Jeep Commander1.096
50°) Honda CIty1.004
The jump in exports to Brazil also comes ahead of a planned increase in tariffs on EVs and hybrid vehicle imports from July.

Brazil had reduced import taxes on electric vehicles to zero since 2015. But President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is restoring them this year to encourage development of the domestic auto industry.

Importation of 100% electric vehicles (EV) became subject to a 10% tax in January, which will increase to 18% in July and eventually reach 35% in July 2026.


Moral of the story Em um breve debate sobre a eletrificação dos carros no Brasil, o ex-ministro Roberto Rodrigues explicou alguns pontos negativos do automóvel elétrico e ainda ressaltou a qualidade do etanol como um dos combustíveis mais sustentáveis para o planeta.



“We don’t need an electric car, ethanol is better”, says Rodrigues I STRAIGHT TO THE POINT

BRUSSELS, June 12 (Reuters) - The European Commission said it will impose extra duties of up to 38.1% on imported Chinese electric cars from July, risking retaliation from Beijing which said on Wednesday it would take measures to safeguard its interests.


No, not that simple, u r unemployeed for long time, you don't know what really happening:


Yesterday, it was mentioned that the trade growth between China and Brazil is good, and China's automobile exports to Brazil have skyrocketed. The specific data I saw today is indeed frightening. Brazil's growth this year is expected to exceed Russia's, and the total amount is hard to say, but the increment is definitely. The number of automobile exports from China to Brazil in the first four months has already remained the same as the total export volume in 2023, reaching 110000 vehicles.
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There is certainly a relationship between the improvement of China Brazil relations and the upgrading of China's automotive industry here. Another important reason is similar to the situation in Russia, which is that Argentina's automotive industry is in trouble. Many people are unaware that the automotive trade between Brazil and Argentina is almost tariff free, and the two countries are important automobile export markets. Argentina exports 60-80% of its cars to Brazil every year. Last year, the automotive trade between the two countries reached a new high, but this year it has sharply declined. Argentina's annual automotive production is about 600000 units, not much, and like Mexico, it is mainly a foreign-funded automotive enterprise, mainly American automakers such as General Motors, Ford, Chevrolet, and so on.
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As a result, Argentina's chaotic economic policies, debt crisis, deteriorating economy after Millet came to power, continued currency depreciation, and the unclear cycle of US interest rate cuts have all dealt a heavy blow to the Argentine automotive industry. As a result, in 2023, Argentina originally accounted for 40% of Brazil's imported cars, while China accounted for 19%. In the first four months of this year, there was a reversal, and Chinese cars quickly soared to 36%! You should know that China's automobile exports to Brazil are thousands of miles away, almost the furthest sea freight in the world. Due to the weight of automobiles themselves, freight prices are very high, and they are not mainly electric cars, but still mainly oil vehicles, and there are also tariff issues.
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So for Brazil, if China's production and assembly in Brazil is implemented in the future, the cost will be further reduced, which will be a great blow to American and Japanese brands in Latin America.
 
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“We don’t need an electric car, ethanol is better”, says Rodrigues I STRAIGHT TO THE POINT
Again, u r umemployeed for long time. u don't know how the world is running, BYD's ICE and hybrid tech is also among the best in the world.

BYD and Geely each announced the development of new 1.5 liter engines that have hit 46% thermal efficiency, which we think would make them the most efficient in the world.



2.9 litres per 100 km


BYD's chairman Wang Chuanfu unveiled the fifth generation of the hybrid technology that achieves a record low fuel consumption of 2.9 litres per 100 km (62.1 miles) on depleted batteries at an event in Shaanxi province's capital Xian.



 

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No, not that simple, u r unemployeed for long time, you don't know what really happening:


Yesterday, it was mentioned that the trade growth between China and Brazil is good, and China's automobile exports to Brazil have skyrocketed. The specific data I saw today is indeed frightening. Brazil's growth this year is expected to exceed Russia's, and the total amount is hard to say, but the increment is definitely. The number of automobile exports from China to Brazil in the first four months has already remained the same as the total export volume in 2023, reaching 110000 vehicles.
·
There is certainly a relationship between the improvement of China Brazil relations and the upgrading of China's automotive industry here. Another important reason is similar to the situation in Russia, which is that Argentina's automotive industry is in trouble. Many people are unaware that the automotive trade between Brazil and Argentina is almost tariff free, and the two countries are important automobile export markets. Argentina exports 60-80% of its cars to Brazil every year. Last year, the automotive trade between the two countries reached a new high, but this year it has sharply declined. Argentina's annual automotive production is about 600000 units, not much, and like Mexico, it is mainly a foreign-funded automotive enterprise, mainly American automakers such as General Motors, Ford, Chevrolet, and so on.
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As a result, Argentina's chaotic economic policies, debt crisis, deteriorating economy after Millet came to power, continued currency depreciation, and the unclear cycle of US interest rate cuts have all dealt a heavy blow to the Argentine automotive industry. As a result, in 2023, Argentina originally accounted for 40% of Brazil's imported cars, while China accounted for 19%. In the first four months of this year, there was a reversal, and Chinese cars quickly soared to 36%! You should know that China's automobile exports to Brazil are thousands of miles away, almost the furthest sea freight in the world. Due to the weight of automobiles themselves, freight prices are very high, and they are not mainly electric cars, but still mainly oil vehicles, and there are also tariff issues.
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So for Brazil, if China's production and assembly in Brazil is implemented in the future, the cost will be further reduced, which will be a great blow to American and Japanese brands in Latin America.
Fiat42.09620,23%143.60720,77%
Volkswagen33.43916,07%110.26415,95%
General Motors29.85114,35%86.75112,55%
Toyota17.3398,33%59.3088,58%
Hyundai15.6747,53%52.8697,65%
Renault11.8695,70%38.6045,58%
Jeep9.4184,53%35.0715,07%
Honda7.1673,44%24.1783,50%
Nissan7.0723,40%26.6303,85%
10ºBYD7.0463,39%21.9793,18%
11ºCaoa Chery6.4583,10%18.0862,62%
12ºFord3.6171,74%11.8341,71%
13ºCitroën2.8931,39%9.7001,40%
14ºGWM2.2811,10%8.0171,16%
15ºRam2.1931,05%9.6191,39%
16ºMitsubishi2.1801,05%6.9151,00%
17ºPeugeot1.8740,90%7.6651,11%
18ºBMW1.3830,66%4.5790,66%
19ºMercedes-Benz6560,32%2.2410,32%
20ºPorsche5380,26%1.8060,25%

UNIDADES (ACUMULADO)PARTICIPAÇÃO (ACUMULADO

BYD 3% of Brazilian car maket

Fiat 27% of Brazilain car market
 

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Fiat42.09620,23%143.60720,77%
Volkswagen33.43916,07%110.26415,95%
General Motors29.85114,35%86.75112,55%
Toyota17.3398,33%59.3088,58%
Hyundai15.6747,53%52.8697,65%
Renault11.8695,70%38.6045,58%
Jeep9.4184,53%35.0715,07%
Honda7.1673,44%24.1783,50%
Nissan7.0723,40%26.6303,85%
10ºBYD7.0463,39%21.9793,18%
11ºCaoa Chery6.4583,10%18.0862,62%
12ºFord3.6171,74%11.8341,71%
13ºCitroën2.8931,39%9.7001,40%
14ºGWM2.2811,10%8.0171,16%
15ºRam2.1931,05%9.6191,39%
16ºMitsubishi2.1801,05%6.9151,00%
17ºPeugeot1.8740,90%7.6651,11%
18ºBMW1.3830,66%4.5790,66%
19ºMercedes-Benz6560,32%2.2410,32%
20ºPorsche5380,26%1.8060,25%

UNIDADES (ACUMULADO)PARTICIPAÇÃO (ACUMULADO

BYD 3% of Brazilian car maket

Fiat 27% of Brazilain car market
No worry, this is the 1st year BYD officially came to the market.

Comparing the 2023 as the trial yr, the growth is 10 times!

Let's see 2024 and 2025!

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Again, u r umemployeed for long time. u don't know how the world is running, BYD's ICE and hybrid tech is also among the best in the world.

BYD and Geely each announced the development of new 1.5 liter engines that have hit 46% thermal efficiency, which we think would make them the most efficient in the world.



2.9 litres per 100 km


BYD's chairman Wang Chuanfu unveiled the fifth generation of the hybrid technology that achieves a record low fuel consumption of 2.9 litres per 100 km (62.1 miles) on depleted batteries at an event in Shaanxi province's capital Xian.



The Stellantis group is preparing to launch cars powered by 100% ethanol or with hybrid technology that combines renewable fuel with electricity. The first two models should reach the market by the end of 2025, within the strategic plan called Bio-Hybrid

 

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No worry, this is the 1st year BYD officially came to the market.

Comparing the 2023 as the trial yr, the growth is 10 times!

Let's see 2024 and 2025!

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yes yes of course next year 100% now 3% yes yes of course

POSIÇÃOMODELOUNIDADES (ABRIL/2024)
Volkswagen Polo12.434
Fiat Strada11.497
Chevrolet Onix9.087
Fiat Argo8.599
Hyundai HB208.194
Chevrolet Onix Plus7.049
Volkswagen T-Cross6.224
Chevrolet Tracker5.670
Fiat Mobi5.420
10ºVolkswagen Saveiro5.373
11ºHyundai Creta5.335
12ºVolkswagen Nivus5.259
13ºRenault Kwid5.185
14ºToyota Hilux4.792
15ºNissan Kicks4.582
16ºJeep Renegade4.382
17ºHonda HR-V4.285
18ºJeep Compass3.914
19ºFiat Toro3.896
20ºFiat Fastback3.885
21ºToyota Corolla Cross3.754
22ºFiat Pulse3.539
23ºFiat Cronos3.403
24ºBYD Dolphin Mini3.143
25ºToyota Corolla3.104
26ºCaoa Chery Tiggo 73.026

 
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yes yes of course next year 100% now 3% yes yes of course

POSIÇÃOMODELOUNIDADES (ABRIL/2024)
Volkswagen Polo12.434
Fiat Strada11.497
Chevrolet Onix9.087
Fiat Argo8.599
Hyundai HB208.194
Chevrolet Onix Plus7.049
Volkswagen T-Cross6.224
Chevrolet Tracker5.670
Fiat Mobi5.420
10ºVolkswagen Saveiro5.373
11ºHyundai Creta5.335
12ºVolkswagen Nivus5.259
13ºRenault Kwid5.185
14ºToyota Hilux4.792
15ºNissan Kicks4.582
16ºJeep Renegade4.382
17ºHonda HR-V4.285
18ºJeep Compass3.914
19ºFiat Toro3.896
20ºFiat Fastback3.885
21ºToyota Corolla Cross3.754
22ºFiat Pulse3.539
23ºFiat Cronos3.403
24ºBYD Dolphin Mini3.143
25ºToyota Corolla3.104
26ºCaoa Chery Tiggo 73.026


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The low prices offered by most vehicle brands of Chinese origin, compared to other older ones, such as Chirey, MG, BAIC and JAC, to name a few, which have recently become popular in Puebla and Mexico, are paid for by consumers. with the inferior quality of its automotive components, many of which are directly linked to passenger safety; as well as the difficulty in finding reliable spare parts, said Roberto Rafael Flores Quintero, doctor in Sciences with a Specialty in Electronics from the National Institute of Astrophysics and Optics (INAOE).

A Reminder That China's Electric Car Companies Are Not Invincible
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Factory utilization for new energy vehicles drops to 50%, far below break-even point


Chinese Car Dealer Group Collapses As Market Runs Out Of Steam
Guangdong Yongao Investment Group had 80 stores selling Volvo, Honda and GAC Aion, and its bankruptcy leaves customers unsure if existing orders will be fulfilled

 

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Discover the innovations that place the FIAT factory in industry 4.0
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The Betim factory, in Minas Gerais, was the cradle of FCA's development in Brazil. Since its opening in 1976, the place has undergone several technological updates. Today, many processes are connected and integrated into the digital era. On the tour through the factory premises, we came across a variety of robots, saw how simulators are used to make production more effective, and also learned a little about the process of transforming a factory to adapt to industry 4.0.
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No worry, this is the 1st year BYD officially came to the market.

Comparing the 2023 as the trial yr, the growth is 10 times!

Let's see 2024 and 2025!

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The list of the top 10 best-selling cars in India in May 2024 consists of models from Maruti, Tata, Hyundai & Mahindra.

The top 3 positions are occupied by Maruti & Tata (Swift, Punch & Dzire). The Maruti WagonR sits in the 5th spot, while the 6th, 7th, 9th and 10th positions have been secured by the Brezza, Ertiga, Baleno & Fronx, respectively.

The Hyundai Creta is in 4th place, while the Mahindra Scorpio is in 8th position.

The top 10 cars sold in May 2024:
  1. Maruti Swift - 19,393
  2. Tata Punch - 18,949
  3. Maruti Dzire - 16,061
  4. Hyundai Creta - 14,662
  5. Maruti WagonR - 14,492
  6. Maruti Brezza - 14,186
  7. Maruti Ertiga - 13,893
  8. Mahindra Scorpio - 13,717
  9. Maruti Baleno - 12,842
  10. Maruti Fronx - 12,681
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this boy can sell cars better than the coach, tell the coach stay out of India
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Further proof that the most lucrative markets for China is the West not the Global South. However China seems to be on a collision course with the West.

Where will it's trade surpluses come from in the near future if the West imposes trade tariffs & bans on Chinese products. It'd be reduced to barter deals with the Global South. Sounds very satisfying if you ask me.
 

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In April 2024 China exported $570M and imported $434M from Argentina, resulting in a positive trade balance of $135M. Between April 2023 and April 2024, China's exports suffered a decrease by $-449M (-44.1%) from $1,02MM to $570M, while imports suffered a decrease by $-31.2M (-6.71 %) from $465M to $434M.
In April 2024, the decrease in annual exports from China to Argentina is mainly explained by a decrease in exports of Other organo-inorganic compounds ($-37.1M or -86.4%), Telephone ($-27, 2M or -33.2%), and Computers ($-19.5M or -60.7%). In April 2024, the decrease in annual imports of China from Argentina are explained by a decrease in imports of Sorghum ($-127M or -89.8%), Frozen beef ($-16.5M or -8.57 %), and Tanned Horse and Bovine Leather ($-5.26M or -63.9%).

Basic math

2023 1,020 MM

2024 570 M

1020-449=570M

(-44.1%)



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Further proof that the most lucrative markets for China is the West not the Global South. However China seems to be on a collision course with the West.

Where will it's trade surpluses come from in the near future if the West imposes trade tariffs & bans on Chinese products. It'd be reduced to barter deals with the Global South. Sounds very satisfying if you ask me.
he did not mention Chinese exports dropped (-44.1%) so Argentina has now a more balanced trade surplus with China, he only eats Chinese propaganda beef
 

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Chinese Traders Sold Subpar EVs to Russia Via Legal Loopholes, but Were Caught and Blocked by Russia

On June 3, a video uploaded by a netizen showed a large number of registered Li Auto electric vehicles parked in a large parking lot, with claims that "Li Auto is registering new cars as used cars for export." Earlier, there were reports that some Li Auto models were being sold to Russia, Kazakhstan, the Middle East, and other regions through parallel exports.
 

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US manufacturing group calls for stronger protection against Chinese imports
David Lawder
Updated Sat, June 15, 2024 at 5:16 AM GMT+9·4 min read
US manufacturing group calls for stronger protection against Chinese imports
FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Biden visits United Steel Workers headquarters in Pittsburgh
By David Lawder
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -A policy group led by the United Steelworkers union and domestic manufacturers is calling for the U.S. to enact stronger trade barriers to Chinese imports after President Joe Biden imposed steep tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, solar panels and other strategic goods.
The Alliance for American Manufacturing (AAM) on Friday published a report on China's excess industrial capacity that echoes concerns raised by the Biden administration and U.S. allies in recent months, saying quick action was needed to stem a rising tide of cheap and subsidized exports that threatens U.S. jobs.

The group called for the return of a long-expired import surge protection tool that was created when Beijing joined the World Trade Organization in 2001, the event that turned China into a global export powerhouse.
The so-called Section 421 safeguard was designed to allow the U.S. to impose temporary tariffs to ease market disruptions caused by surges of imports from China's low-cost manufacturing base that was welcomed into the global trading system 23 years ago. The idea was to give domestic industries some breathing room as China transitioned to a market economy with a more level playing field - a transition that never came.
Section 421 was invoked only once, in 2009 by then-President Barack Obama, at the request of the United Steelworkers, whose members were being laid off by U.S. tire plants hit by a flood of Chinese imports. The action temporarily raised the tariff rate on Chinese tires to up to 35% from the 4% WTO rate, but Section 421 expired in 2013.
With new import surges threatened in new industries including EVs, solar and semiconductors, as well as continuing surges in older sectors such as steel, glass and tires, Section 421 should be revived and modernized, AAM said.
"Beijing has failed to abide by its WTO commitments and remains a non-market economy," AAM said in the report. "It's state-driven support for critical sectors is causing massive overcapacity and threatens import surges in the United States, necessitating the reinstatement of the Section 421 tool," AAM said in the report.
It called for changes to allow such duties on Chinese import surges from plants in third countries, such as Mexico or Vietnam and a faster process to impose the tariffs before permanent damage to U.S. output is done. It also said the relief options should be broader and longer in duration.
The U.S. Trade Representative's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the AAM recommendations.
The report laid out job losses and plant closures in the U.S. paper, glass, steel and tire industries caused by Chinese imports, and said that the U.S. needs a more proactive approach to avoid a repeat in newer sectors. Excess capacity is a "feature, not a bug" of China's state-driven economic model, it said.
G7 CONFRONTS CHINA
The recommendations were published as leaders of the Group of Seven industrial democracies met in southern Italy and pledged in a joint statement to protect their industries from China's "unfair practices".
It also follows this week's decision by European Union officials to impose punitive tariffs of 17.4% to 38.1% on Chinese EVs to combat a finding of excessive government subsidies for the sector.
AAM President Scott Paul said he was encouraged by the U.S. and EU tariff actions, calling Biden's move a watershed moment to get out in front of China's overcapacity at a time when Washington is investing heavily in a new energy transition.
The European tariffs show that Biden "is not alone in his concerns about China's EV overcapacity and subsidies. This is validation that there are widespread concerns about Beijing's policies and practices."
Among other protections, the group recommended several steps aimed at countering China's circumvention of U.S. tariffs by shifting production to third countries such as Mexico and Vietnam, including passing proposed legislation to strengthen U.S. anti-dumping and anti-subsidy laws to cover production from third-country investments, and strengthening rules of origin requirements in U.S. free trade agreements to exclude Chinese content.
(Reporting by David Lawder; Editing by Stephen Coates and David Gregorio)
 

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