China Economy: News & Discussion

[SexyChineseLady]

Animation is now a big -- and growing-- industry in China!

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The 19th China International Cartoon and Animation Festival #girl #beautifulgirl

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[SexyChineseLady]

Staying ahead of the curve on new tech!

 

[rockdog]

Staying ahead of the curve on new tech!

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[rockdog]

China's total trade had gone up since the Western trade war, cars are a good example

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US trade war with China began in 2018! But Chinese car exports went up 10-fold!!!

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English conversation between founder of TSMC and Co-founder/CFO of Alibaba, both are Taiwanese. Plus the current CEO of DJI also comes from Taiwan.

Talking about Taiwan, China's R&D, chip industry, manufacture and economy.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

English conversation between founder of TSMC and Co-founder/CFO of Alibaba, both are Taiwanese. Plus the current CEO of DJI also comes from Taiwan.

Talking about Taiwan, China's R&D, chip industry, manufacture and economy.

At the start of the interview, they made it clear that TSMC's Morris Chang was born in China

It is well-known that Taiwan's tech sector is very Blue. China's tech sector was seeded by Taiwanese and a lot of Taiwanese are still involved in it.

In fact, many in Taiwanese tech sees the hollowing out of the sector in the ROC once the US has its way with TSMC in Arizona. That flow of tech talent from Taiwan to China will continue though the Greens, who are lawyers and artists, try to discourage it.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

 

[SexyChineseLady]

People think that exports are important for China. Yes but only as a supplement.

China has greater internal markets than the US. Many of them like for cars, ships, tvs, large household appliances, etc. are multiple times bigger than US ones. Exports naturally come from economy of scale that made everything in China less expensive than everyone else which is why Chinese inflation is lower than anyone else.

China is a continental consumer society greater than the US without real need for exports but just so happens to have a trade surplus as well

Exports are nice to have but not necessary for China unlike Japan or Germany

An example is cars:

China's auto market is bigger than US, Germany and Japan combined!

Chinese companies do not need exports but exports are growing anyways!

 

[MiG-29SMT]

In "producing everything ," there's no scope for trade in any thing except sourcing of raw materials & a market for export .

This coupled with predatory pricing given China's vast subsidies means all other countries should forego their mfg prowess & depend on imports from China. Good luck with implementing it.

India will continue growing at 6 to 8% mainly because it is industrilizing, given the size of your economy very likely you will achieve a very large economy.

The wumaos think that all the rest of the countries will subdue and accept Mongolian lordship.

the reality is there are 3 ways in international relationships, cooperation, rivalry and war.

Cooperation is the best way but that means in modern economic terms joint ventures and suppliers to a main commn project for not duplicating projects. That is stelanis or Airbus

I will expose you more India buys F414 engine

Fighter jet engine deal with India to start this year: GE Aerospace's Amy Gowder

GE Aerospace Defence & Systems President Amy Gowder in an exclusive interview with ET shared that India's fighter jet engine technology deal with the US is progressing on time and a detailed technical proposal with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will be shared with HAL soon. The timeframe for...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

It is a win to win for both the USA and India. F414 is old in technology but not so old to be not still practicall and relevant.

So india wins access to new technologies and the USA milks an engine the last drops .

Airbus is the same, or Rolls Royce and ITP are the same cooperation reduces costs and increases profits.

Rivalry is now BYD and Tesla,

The problem is rivalry can lead to war, since the reality of power is there is only one winner and to stop a rival you will need to conquer it.

Very likely China will be blocked, tariffs will increase and to some degree Europe will try to cooperate with China but the USA has decided to shut down BYD.

Chinese cars are not Cheap and the americans know it, subsidies are what really keep them going on so the americans plan to force China to lose money, to backrupt the CCP backed and subsidized industry of EVs.

Europe want to see if they can force cooperation, but if they do not make money tariffs will also emerge.

Cooperation always means a price but that keeps peace, China is the new empire of Japan, is a fascist state, a militaristic military empire that was created by the west to destroy Russia

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Indonesia Captain visits the ARJ-21!

VISIT ARJ21 TRANSNUSA #papua #sorong #indonesia

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[SexyChineseLady]

Testing the BYD Seal against Porsches and Lambhorginis

 

[skywatcher]

some members here may argue he's a paid CCP shill.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

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it is obvious propaganda, countries are not perfect, one if i show you one side but hide the other that is obvious propaganda.

First youtube is banned in China and second it never shows any bad side thus is clear propaganda.

If you are to analize a country you have to see statistics, both gross statistics and per capita, further more understand the culture or moral values and third the relative aspects of a factor.

Now there is positive propaganda and negative propaganda.
To claim everything is bad in China that is propaganda, to claim everything is good that is propaganda


China observer for example is negative propaganda, as the global times and unsexylady chinese dud are positive propaganda

If I want to make an analysis I have to see both.

In example cars.

car production in China is very high, 30 million cars and In Mexico 4 million cars.

In Gross terms China has a much higher production around 7 times higher than Mexico.

But if I go per capita Mexico has a higher production than China.

If I go to the share domestic brands control the local market I found that China has a higher share of local brands.

If I go to technology I found Mexico has the technology it might be slightly less developed but the effects of the share of the market of local brands affects the technology.

If I go to the policies I found that the 25% raise of tariffs on Chinese goods by the mexican government to Chinese impoorts is to balance that disparity of subsidies but it is partly due to American pressure why?

The Vedetec company also known as Vekstar Bimbo makes electric cars, designed and made in Mexico, if i dig more I find the Vekstar cars are build in the same plant Chinese cars are built, what does it mean?

That very likely some tech transfers are in the Mexican EV car, either in parts or in the mass production process; the car is designed in Mexico but the Chinese companies do have more experience than local brands in mass production due to the larger market.

Now If I go to GDP I find in gross GDP numbers China has an economy 10 times bigger than Mexico, but if I go per capita I find the per capita is slighly lower than Mexico`s.

If I go to salaries I find disparies in some parts of Mexico salaries are lower but in other higher on mimimun salaries with respect China.

If I see prices and resources I find Mexicans eat more beef and poultry , eat more fruit, drink more milk than Chinese, but Chinese eat more vegetables and farmed marine products. both Mexicans and chinese eat the same amount of eggs per capita

In general Mexico has more resources per capita since is a smaller population with lesser population density, thus many resources are still plentiful with respect the population.

So despite China has a higher advances in some technologies, having lower resources means the quality of life is not that good in China, but the degree of social disparities makes China a slightly better than Mexico since Mexico has a much more racist society.

same I can apply to Brazil, Brazil`s poverty is mostly due to racism but is a much richer than both Mexico or China.

if I go to GDP growth I find China has a higher rate than Mexico, however China cooks the books and is a dictatorship, Mexico is a democracy and is highly scrutinized by the USA and local political opposition so I consider the Chinese growth rate might be inflated.

India`s rate seems more realistic than the Chinese too since it is a democracy

 

[rockdog]

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After China offered two weeks visa free policy to most EU nations, i see explosive contents from forgein vbloggers, 99% of vids are positive ans 99% of comments from vids are positive as well.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

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I will exemplify values

Brazil is responsible for 25% of the world's food production. Such products include: sugar, soybeans, tobacco, coffee, cotton, and orange juice(Brazil's agrarian reform). Brazil has gained ground in the beef, chicken, and pork industries as well(Top of the Crops).


Food Production in Brazil In today’s high tech world, where many problems rarely go unsolved, one issue that has continued to plague our society is malnutrition; more specifically hunger. Not all huger is based in one location. Hunger problems exist in all countries of the world. Currently eight hundred million people are affected world wide. Approximately 32 million are from Brazil (Striving for agricultural diversity and food security in Brazil)

https://www.worldfoodprize.org/documents/filelibrary/images/youth_programs/research_papers/2005_papers/WesternDubuqueHighSchool_66470FEEFF702.pdf

here we see the effects of racism and economic disparity, Brazil is leader in food production so claiming a nation is top in manufacture does not prove is everything better, Brazil is a power house in agriculture.

You can not eat ev cars, but also without social justice you can not eat even if your country is a powerhouse in food production

brazil is also a manufacture powehouse it builds cars, airplanes submarines etc etc

in few words propaganda is any thing that exaggerates a reality and hides others

What is better have a car or have food, what is better have no car or have no food and water?

 

[MiG-29SMT]

After China offered two weeks visa free policy to most EU nations, i see explosive contents from forgein vbloggers, 99% of vids are positive ans 99% of comments from vids are positive as well.

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Is very easy to see it is propaganda all the channel owners are pretty and handsome , basically models,

what? are not fat american bloggers, cool you have cute blond women but not fat women

and funny the racist Chinese, no black americans common in Asians they are mongolians who think they are whites

well common among asians plastic surgery to look more white and deny their slanted eyes

 

[skywatcher]

Chang’e-6 lands on far side of the moon to collect unique lunar samples

Andrew Jones June 1, 2024

HELSINKI — China’s Chang’e-6 mission lander made a successful soft landing on the far side of the moon late Saturday and will soon begin collecting unique lunar samples.

The Chang’e-6 lander made a soft landing at 6:23 p.m. Eastern June 1 (2223 UTC), the China National Space Administration (CNSA) announced shortly after the event. The lander targeted a southern portion of Apollo crater within the South Pole-Aitken (SPA) Basin on the lunar far side.

The landing is a critical step towards bringing unique and scientifically invaluable lunar samples to Earth for analysis. U.S. decadal surveys have highlighted an SPA sample return as a highest priority science objective.

The Chang’e-6 lander used a variable 7,500-newton-thrust engine to slow its velocity in lunar orbit and begin its descent. The lander was scheduled to make rapid positional adjustments at an altitude of around 2.5 kilometers above the lunar surface before continuing its descent. The spacecraft entered a hovering phase for fine hazard avoidance at approximately 100 meters above the surface. It used light detection and ranging (LiDAR) and optical cameras to find a safe landing spot.

Chang’e-6 is China’s fourth successful lunar landing from four attempts, and the second on the far side of the moon. It is also the third lunar landing in 2024. It follows Japan’s SLIM in January and Intuitive Machines’ IM-1 Odysseus lander in February.

Teams will now begin initial checks of the lander’s systems and soon begin collecting samples. The lander will collect up to 2,000 grams of samples, using a scoop to grab surface regolith and a drill for subsurface material. Samples are expected to be sent into lunar orbit within around 48 hours. Chinese space authorities have yet to publish a timeline for the mission and its steps, however.

There are complex stages remaining before samples can be returned to Earth for analysis. Yet the success of this critical stage of the mission will be celebrated.

“I have been analyzing the scientific data of the Chang’e-4 mission that landed on the far side of the moon, and I am constantly excited to have new findings from the ongoing rover data. Therefore, I am particularly excited about the Chang’e-6 mission” Xu Yi, an assistant professor at the Macau University of Science and Technology, told SpaceNews earlier in the week.

“The reasons for the asymmetry in the scale of volcanic activity between the lunar nearside and farside are still subject to different hypotheses. Chang’e-6 will probably collect lunar samples from various sources, including products of local volcanic activity. Dating and compositional analysis of these samples will provide more ground truth information about volcanic activity on the far side.”

Samples could contain material ejected from the lunar mantle. These would provide insights not only into the depths of the moon, its composition and its evolution, but also for the Earth the wider history of the early solar system.

Chang’e-6 next steps
Following sampling, an ascent vehicle will be expected to launch itself and the samples from atop the Chang’e-6 lander. The launch is expected within around 48 hours of landing, taking the samples into lunar orbit. The ascender will need to rendezvous and dock with the waiting Chang’e-6 orbiter.

Samples would then be transferred to a reentry capsule and ahead of the journey back to Earth. Departure from the moon will take place at a calculated time. The orbiter would then release a reentry capsule just ahead of its return to Earth, around June 25. The capsule will first bounce off the atmosphere once and target a landing in grasslands of Inner Mongolia. Samples would then be transferred to special facilities for handling, analyzing and storing the lunar material.

The Chang’e-6 mission also uses support from the Queqiao-2 relay satellite. This allows communications with the otherwise hidden far side of the moon.

Lunar rover, science payloads
Beyond the precious samples, the Chang’e-6 lander also carries further payloads for conducting a range of science objectives. A small rover is expected to be deployed onto the surface for short term operations.

International payloads include the Negative Ions at the Lunar Surface (NILS) payload developed by the Swedish Institute of Space physics and the Detection of Outgassing RadoN (DORN) instrument from France. An Italian passive laser retro-reflector is aboard the lander. The lander will then suffer damage from the launch of the ascent module, likely ending surface operations.

Chang’e-6 is part of China’s broader lunar program. The country will follow up with two missions to the south pole of the moon. These are Chang’e-7 in 2026 and Chang’e-8 around 2028. The country aims to launch its first crewed lunar mission by 2030.

Both sets of missions are part of a plan to establish a permanent lunar base. This project is known as the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) program, planned for the 2030s. A number of countries and organizations have signed up to the project.

Mission Name	Launch Date	Mission Type	Objectives	Outcome
Chang’e 1	October 24, 2007	Orbiter	Lunar mapping, study lunar surface and environment	Successful; created a 3D map of the moon.
Chang’e 2	October 1, 2010	Orbiter	High-resolution imaging of lunar surface, study of Lagrange Point L2	Successful; achieved its objectives.
Chang’e 3	December 1, 2013	Lander and Rover	Soft landing on the moon, surface exploration with the Yutu rover	Successful; Yutu rover lost mobility but operated for 31 months.
Chang’e 5-T1	October 23, 2014	Test Flight	Test re-entry technology for Chang’e 5 sample return mission	Successful; validated re-entry capsule design.
Chang’e 4	December 7, 2018	Lander and Rover	First soft landing on the far side of the moon, surface exploration with Yutu-2 rover	Successful; ongoing mission.
Chang’e 5	November 23, 2020	Near side sample Return Mission	Collect lunar samples and return them to Earth	Successful; returned 1.731 kg of samples.
Chang’e 6	May 3, 2024	Far side sample Return Mission	Collect samples from the far side of the moon and return them to Earth	Ongoing mission.
Chang’e 7 (planned)	NET 2026	Orbiter, Lander, Rover, Hopper	Comprehensive lunar exploration including polar regions	Planned mission.
Chang’e 8 (planned)	NET 2028	Technology Demonstration	Test key technologies for lunar base construction	Planned mission

 

[rockdog]

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In Shanghai now:

 

[skywatcher]

Chang’e-6 lands on far side of the moon to collect unique lunar samples

Andrew Jones June 1, 2024

HELSINKI — China’s Chang’e-6 mission lander made a successful soft landing on the far side of the moon late Saturday and will soon begin collecting unique lunar samples.

The Chang’e-6 lander made a soft landing at 6:23 p.m. Eastern June 1 (2223 UTC), the China National Space Administration (CNSA) announced shortly after the event. The lander targeted a southern portion of Apollo crater within the South Pole-Aitken (SPA) Basin on the lunar far side.

The landing is a critical step towards bringing unique and scientifically invaluable lunar samples to Earth for analysis. U.S. decadal surveys have highlighted an SPA sample return as a highest priority science objective.

The Chang’e-6 lander used a variable 7,500-newton-thrust engine to slow its velocity in lunar orbit and begin its descent. The lander was scheduled to make rapid positional adjustments at an altitude of around 2.5 kilometers above the lunar surface before continuing its descent. The spacecraft entered a hovering phase for fine hazard avoidance at approximately 100 meters above the surface. It used light detection and ranging (LiDAR) and optical cameras to find a safe landing spot.

Chang’e-6 is China’s fourth successful lunar landing from four attempts, and the second on the far side of the moon. It is also the third lunar landing in 2024. It follows Japan’s SLIM in January and Intuitive Machines’ IM-1 Odysseus lander in February.

Teams will now begin initial checks of the lander’s systems and soon begin collecting samples. The lander will collect up to 2,000 grams of samples, using a scoop to grab surface regolith and a drill for subsurface material. Samples are expected to be sent into lunar orbit within around 48 hours. Chinese space authorities have yet to publish a timeline for the mission and its steps, however.

There are complex stages remaining before samples can be returned to Earth for analysis. Yet the success of this critical stage of the mission will be celebrated.

“I have been analyzing the scientific data of the Chang’e-4 mission that landed on the far side of the moon, and I am constantly excited to have new findings from the ongoing rover data. Therefore, I am particularly excited about the Chang’e-6 mission” Xu Yi, an assistant professor at the Macau University of Science and Technology, told SpaceNews earlier in the week.

“The reasons for the asymmetry in the scale of volcanic activity between the lunar nearside and farside are still subject to different hypotheses. Chang’e-6 will probably collect lunar samples from various sources, including products of local volcanic activity. Dating and compositional analysis of these samples will provide more ground truth information about volcanic activity on the far side.”

Samples could contain material ejected from the lunar mantle. These would provide insights not only into the depths of the moon, its composition and its evolution, but also for the Earth the wider history of the early solar system.

Chang’e-6 next steps
Following sampling, an ascent vehicle will be expected to launch itself and the samples from atop the Chang’e-6 lander. The launch is expected within around 48 hours of landing, taking the samples into lunar orbit. The ascender will need to rendezvous and dock with the waiting Chang’e-6 orbiter.

Samples would then be transferred to a reentry capsule and ahead of the journey back to Earth. Departure from the moon will take place at a calculated time. The orbiter would then release a reentry capsule just ahead of its return to Earth, around June 25. The capsule will first bounce off the atmosphere once and target a landing in grasslands of Inner Mongolia. Samples would then be transferred to special facilities for handling, analyzing and storing the lunar material.

The Chang’e-6 mission also uses support from the Queqiao-2 relay satellite. This allows communications with the otherwise hidden far side of the moon.

Lunar rover, science payloads
Beyond the precious samples, the Chang’e-6 lander also carries further payloads for conducting a range of science objectives. A small rover is expected to be deployed onto the surface for short term operations.

International payloads include the Negative Ions at the Lunar Surface (NILS) payload developed by the Swedish Institute of Space physics and the Detection of Outgassing RadoN (DORN) instrument from France. An Italian passive laser retro-reflector is aboard the lander. The lander will then suffer damage from the launch of the ascent module, likely ending surface operations.

Chang’e-6 is part of China’s broader lunar program. The country will follow up with two missions to the south pole of the moon. These are Chang’e-7 in 2026 and Chang’e-8 around 2028. The country aims to launch its first crewed lunar mission by 2030.

Both sets of missions are part of a plan to establish a permanent lunar base. This project is known as the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) program, planned for the 2030s. A number of countries and organizations have signed up to the project.

Mission Name	Launch Date	Mission Type	Objectives	Outcome
Chang’e 1	October 24, 2007	Orbiter	Lunar mapping, study lunar surface and environment	Successful; created a 3D map of the moon.
Chang’e 2	October 1, 2010	Orbiter	High-resolution imaging of lunar surface, study of Lagrange Point L2	Successful; achieved its objectives.
Chang’e 3	December 1, 2013	Lander and Rover	Soft landing on the moon, surface exploration with the Yutu rover	Successful; Yutu rover lost mobility but operated for 31 months.
Chang’e 5-T1	October 23, 2014	Test Flight	Test re-entry technology for Chang’e 5 sample return mission	Successful; validated re-entry capsule design.
Chang’e 4	December 7, 2018	Lander and Rover	First soft landing on the far side of the moon, surface exploration with Yutu-2 rover	Successful; ongoing mission.
Chang’e 5	November 23, 2020	Near side sample Return Mission	Collect lunar samples and return them to Earth	Successful; returned 1.731 kg of samples.
Chang’e 6	May 3, 2024	Far side sample Return Mission	Collect samples from the far side of the moon and return them to Earth	Ongoing mission.
Chang’e 7 (planned)	NET 2026	Orbiter, Lander, Rover, Hopper	Comprehensive lunar exploration including polar regions	Planned mission.
Chang’e 8 (planned)	NET 2028	Technology Demonstration	Test key technologies for lunar base construction	Planned mission

CCP has got a great plan for the Moon

 

[SKC]

After China offered two weeks visa free policy to most EU nations, i see explosive contents from forgein vbloggers, 99% of vids are positive ans 99% of comments from vids are positive as well.

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Chaang@ You are exposing your propaganda yourself.

Any sane person will see these snapshot and guess correctly that these are paid travel influencers ready to talk good about any one paying them handsome money!

 

[rockdog]

Chaang@ You are exposing your propaganda yourself.

Any sane person will see these snapshot and guess correctly that these are paid travel influencers ready to talk good about any one paying them handsome money!

Giving most EU citizen with 14 days free pass would make more people come here for free vids and blogs.