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Do I have to tell you ISRO needs a heavy lift launcher first before launching space station module?
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ISRO has a heavy lift launcher. It's under development and will likely be tested in 2025.

Next Generation Launch Vehicle - Wikipedia

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Meet the NGLV, ISRO’s environmentally friendly, partially reusable rocket

ISRO has ambitious goals of assembling its own space station, landing humans on the Moon, and setting up a Moon Base, within the next fifteen years. Meeting these goals is not possible without the development of a new generation of launch vehicles. ISRO is planning a fleet that will be...

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how come I wouldn't know it as a PLAN? I wasn't living in information cocoon as you.

ISRO has a track record of hitting all milestones +/- 12 months. Whatever China has achieved is not impossible. For India it has just been a matter of prioritization and funding. Indians have been building complex tech at NASA for decades.

Maybe I should introduce you to NASA's CTO:

A.C. Charania - NASA

As agency chief technologist, A.C. Charania serves as principal advisor to NASA’s administrator on technology policy and programs. He leads technology

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The funny thing is that this slide shows India's cryo engine 100T thrust in 2015. It's 2024 now. where's that 100T cryo engine?

Please... Test duration was 8400 seconds vs the requirement of 6000 seconds.

 

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100T cryo engine? you're not kidding me?

LVM3 will use multiple CE25 enginers with around 30T of thrust each.

ISRO Successfully Tests C25 Cryogenic Upper Stage of GSLV MkIII

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The Cyrogenic engine is used in the upper stage. The bulk of the lift will come from stage 2.

• A L-400 semi-cryogenic core stage, with 400 tonnes of propellant, using a cluster of five SCE-200 engines;

 

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I think you are conflating stages and the role of each stage between the two countries.

 

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SCE-200 - Wikipedia

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SCE-200 is traditional LOX/Kerosene. It's not cryo. As of Apr 2024, SCE-200 hasn't done any full system hot fire test.

Hey I don't want to make you look foolish but you keep digging deeper. What matters is payload to orbit not the thrust of a specific engine. I can make a heavy ass rocket with a bulky engine and claim victory, but it doesn't matter if my payload is the same as an Indian engine with a sleeker and slimmer design. You need to evaluate based on payload capacity to different orbits not engine thrust.

 

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Let's compare payload size:

NGLV:

17,000 to 48,000 kg to LEO
8,500 to 24,000 kg to GTO
7,000 to 22,500 to TLI

LVM3:

10,000 kg to LEO
4,300 to GTO
3,000 to TLI

Long March 5:

25,000 kg to LEO
14,000 kg to GTO
9,400 to TLI
5,100 to GEO

 

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video of LVM3 launch

 

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As I said NGLV is a plan It won't be realized by 2035. Long March 5 has been in service for 8 years. You may not know Long March 10 with payload capacity of 70 t to LEO is gonna take a test flight in 2027.

We can start with LVM3. I don't get your point. Modular capsules can be launched for the Indian space station using it's current capacity. You just sound dumb without rational thought.

 

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As I said NGLV is a plan It won't be realized by 2035. Long March 5 has been in service for 8 years. You may not know Long March 10 with payload capacity of 70 t to LEO is gonna take a test flight in 2027.

Long March 10 is only 2x better than NGLV. So I don't see your point about India not being able to build in space. Your original assertion was that India won't be able to build a space station. However I gave you evidence to the contrary. Now you are just word vomiting and changing goal posts.

 

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by the way long march 5 weighs 851K kgs.

NGLV will weigh 600K kg weight and will outperform the Long March 5. If you think China is a class ahead of India, show me a rocket with a better thrust to weight ratio with that lift capability.

 

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Indian RLV will be an autonomous glider that will sit on the top of the rocket.

 

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When did I make that post? I just said Indian space station won't be realized by 2040 and it will only has mass of 20T, less than 1/5 of current Chinese space station.

Lol the first phase of the space station will be finished by 2035. The first launch of a module is in 2027.

 

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