Burger boys and the India-US Relations

[shade]

Turkey summons US Ambassador over genocide announcement - Times of India

Middle East News: Turkey's foreign ministry has summoned the US Ambassador in Ankara to protest the US decision to mark the deportation and killing of Armenians during

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Is the grip of the Supa Powa loosening?
Turkey is now it's own power, no longer a US vassal.
France seems to be pursuing an independent foreign policy.
Germans seem to oppose US demands against the Russian NordStream 2 gas pipeline.
And Chings will Chung as we have seen.

 

[shade]

umm that does not make sense, if Biden delays vaccine raw materials doesn't it make the case for "murica not giving raw materials" or have they been played by Modi and Doval?

Check this Bruno's twitter account, he basically is saying that there is a factional tiff between the Biden type centre-left "practical" demonrats and the Loony Left Woke part of the party that hates Mudi baba.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Turkey summons US Ambassador over genocide announcement - Times of India

Middle East News: Turkey's foreign ministry has summoned the US Ambassador in Ankara to protest the US decision to mark the deportation and killing of Armenians during

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Is the grip of the Supa Powa loosening?
Turkey is now it's own power, no longer a US vassal.
France seems to be pursuing an independent foreign policy.
Germans seem to oppose US demands against the Russian NordStream 2 gas pipeline.
And Chings will Chung as we have seen.

That's the natural order.
For every trillion we add insert one more ungli in uncle Sam's behind.

 

[Cheran]

umm that does not make sense, if Biden delays vaccine raw materials doesn't it make the case for "murica not giving raw materials" or have they been played by Modi and Doval?

And if there was all level silence then what was that statement by the WH and the NSA jake Sullivan ?

Well, its a given that they dislike Modi.

Anything to discredit him or make him look weak for his audience is good for them.

Now this can be interpreted as public dressing down/lesson for "Howdy Modi" etc or maybe a pressure tactic for Pfizer.

Previously they had publicly made statement for America first & now backtracked. NSA to NSA talks could indicate something that was sudden & transactional like - We give API, you support Pfizer.

 

[IndianYonko]

Turkey summons US Ambassador over genocide announcement - Times of India

Middle East News: Turkey's foreign ministry has summoned the US Ambassador in Ankara to protest the US decision to mark the deportation and killing of Armenians during

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Is the grip of the Supa Powa loosening?
Turkey is now it's own power, no longer a US vassal.
France seems to be pursuing an independent foreign policy.
Germans seem to oppose US demands against the Russian NordStream 2 gas pipeline.
And Chings will Chung as we have seen.

Will India be the final nail in the coffin? Huge expectation from my side.

 

[shade]

Will India be the final nail in the coffin? Huge expectation from my side.

Well we weren't really within their power in the first place.
Current dostana is only because of the 10 foot choyna-man.
And of course with their recent stunts, Bharat will become careful about the dostana even more.

 

[HawkisRight]

Turkey summons US Ambassador over genocide announcement - Times of India

Middle East News: Turkey's foreign ministry has summoned the US Ambassador in Ankara to protest the US decision to mark the deportation and killing of Armenians during

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Is the grip of the Supa Powa loosening?
Turkey is now it's own power, no longer a US vassal.
France seems to be pursuing an independent foreign policy.
Germans seem to oppose US demands against the Russian NordStream 2 gas pipeline.
And Chings will Chung as we have seen.

Now dat torks are not getting F35 so Sultan erdo should go full brrrrr and recognise Native genocide in murica...

 

[Suryavanshi]

We need to take as many non Western nation into confidence as possible, preferably Buddhist and non Islamic nations.
the closest ally is Myanmmar. From what I've observed both Junta and democratic counterparts are open to the idea of deepening ties with India. We should give them diplomatic protection from US and Western nation.
Economy is the key, increase the economic penetration and try to take the lions share of the trade some 25 to 30%. Myanmmar Timber should flow in our furniture industry, quartz in our jwellery industry. Sign some kind of free trade agreement if it favors us. Indian weapons should find its way into Myanmar. Mutual Intelligence sharing pact with the nation.

Muricans can influence nation on the other end of the globe why can't be do the same.
Firstly we should improve our foreign services or scrap it all together if that does not work.

 

[Lost user]

Will India be the final nail in the coffin? Huge expectation from my side.

Summoning the US ambassador is the minimim the turks would do, for this insult from Biden admin.. Turks are very sensitive w.r.t armenian genocide..

 

[IndianYonko]

We need to take as many non Western nation into confidence as possible, preferably Buddhist and non Islamic nations.
the closest ally is Myanmmar. From what I've observed both Junta and democratic counterparts are open to the idea of deepening ties with India. We should give them diplomatic protection from US and Western nation.
Economy is the key, increase the economic penetration and try to take the lions share of the trade some 25 to 30%. Myanmmar Timber should flow in our furniture industry, quartz in our jwellery industry. Sign some kind of free trade agreement if it favors us. Indian weapons should find its way into Myanmar. Mutual Intelligence sharing pact with the nation.

Muricans can influence nation on the other end of the globe why can't be do the same.
Firstly we should improve our foreign services or scrap it all together if that does not work.

To answer your Question: Economy is the key. We will have to become rich; both gov and the common public.

 

[Suryavanshi]

To answer your Question: Economy is the key. We will have to become rich; both gov and the common public.

Not just that we need to make our allies rich as well. More rich non western allies = Wester influence decreases.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Well we weren't really within their power in the first place.
Current dostana is only because of the 10 foot choyna-man.
And of course with their recent stunts, Bharat will become careful about the dostana even more.

You're profile pic suggests you are a man of culture

 

[Assassin 2.0]

These two are one of the biggest American Dallal policy guy's.

 

[Nicky G]

I am beginning to think this was all a fixed match.

Poonawalla first claimed the raw materials were needed for Covidshield. When called out, he changed position to its generally needed for the entire vaccine industry in India. When pushed further, he finally named Novovax / Covovax.

The Government of India kept quiet. Did any government official make the request in media, did they name Covidshield in particular?

So everyone let the perception be that raw material required for Covidshield were being held back.

Now the NSA talk and US agrees to provide materials for one their own companies and get positive PR. They took some hear for a few days, but Indian opinions doesn't matter in the US.

The GoI gets to claim that their diplomacy works with Doval trending on twitter.

 

[DownWithCCP]

I am beginning to think this was all a fixed match.

Poonawalla first claimed the raw materials were needed for Covidshield. When called out, he changed position to its generally needed for the entire vaccine industry in India. When pushed further, he finally named Novovax / Covovax.

The Government of India kept quiet. Did any government official make the request in media, did they name Covidshield in particular?

So everyone let the perception be that raw material required for Covidshield were being held back.

Now the NSA talk and US agrees to provide materials for one their own companies and get positive PR. They took some hear for a few days, but Indian opinions doesn't matter in the US.

The GoI gets to claim that their diplomacy works with Doval trending on twitter.

The statement from WH still says Covishield, and raw materials are not an infinite well we keep taking from so when trying to ramp up vaccine production it is imperative that we will need more raw materials to fill in the deficit that is being created by increased demands, remember the govt is opening vaccines to its above 18 population, increased demand for vaccines can create stress on the existing logistics and supply structures, to make it simpler there is an oxygen crisis in India and we have had to import oxygen and related equipment why? not because we aren't producing enough, it is because we do not have the logistics in place for transporting it to places where it is needed the most i.e. hospitals.

 

[DownWithCCP]

The statement from WH still says Covishield, and raw materials are not an infinite well we keep taking from so when trying to ramp up vaccine production it is imperative that we will need more raw materials to fill in the deficit that is being created by increased demands, remember the govt is opening vaccines to its above 18 population, increased demand for vaccines can create stress on the existing logistics and supply structures, to make it simpler there is an oxygen crisis in India and we have had to import oxygen and related equipment why? not because we aren't producing enough, it is because we do not have the logistics in place for transporting it to places where it is needed the most i.e. hospitals.

Idk if this is the case or not, it was just me trying to make sense of the situation, without sounding like a conspiracy theorist and making huge assumptions that are no doubt sensational but have no logical basis.

 

[Nicky G]

Idk if this is the case or not, it was just me trying to make sense of the situation, without sounding like a conspiracy theorist and making huge assumptions that are no doubt sensational but have no logical basis.

The bar for what's logical tends to be very subjective.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

The bar for what's logical tends to be very subjective.

Adar poonawala ke sath game hogaya .

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Will India be the final nail in the coffin? Huge expectation from my side.

I hope too biradar .
I was thinking, my brain farts as always , should goi give covaxin formula to iran ?

 

[DownWithCCP]

The bar for what's logical tends to be very subjective.

There area distinctions to be made here, in the tweet adar Poonawala says "to ramp up vaccine production" he would need the lifting of embargo on raw materials and that is different from him saying "covishield production won't be affected by the embargo" of course it won't be but to ramp it up he would need those raw materials is what I make of it, at least that is more convincing than a conspiracy with so many moving parts.