My answers are in the same sequence as your comments
1)Mesopotamia does included parts of present day turkey iraq syria. Infact Sumerians themselves called black headed people as in Nagas Sanskrit and ruled in that area for thousands of years. They came from what you call west Asia.
Not those cattle fucking hunter gatherers barbarics called anglo saxon.Egyptians and Mespotomians have nothing to do with those. Infact There are striking similarities between the BHARTIYA and Sumerian civilizations. One of them is the use of the Double Headed Eagle as a royal symbol.
Many sumerian seals from 3800 bc show this mythical bird is used as a symbol of royalty. Russia and other Eastern European countries use it on their currency notes and national flags in modern times (post 15th ad approx)
Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh praise the mighty strength of this bird in coins, sculptures and literature.
I dont believe anything I am personally an abhyasi and I am all for a Universal Vedic Civilisation or to put it "भारतस्य प्रतिष्ठे द्वे संस्कृतः संस्कृतिस्तथा।" and paganism (not modern horseshit as of wiccans and satanist cults) spreading continents where half dyk outdated racial concepts were nowhere to be found.
That all aitbs begun with britfags only in 19th century in desperate attempt to solve their identity issues lmao.
Sumerians believed that the human beings came from seven men and seven women. Various Dharmics schools also believe that mankind originated from Seven Sages known as Sapta Rishis who in turn came from Brahma, the Creator. This number seven has long been an alchemical allegory for seven chakras as yazid shaykh adi ibn musafir that originated in middle east revere peacocks also talks about seven lamps and seihs awaiting on mount Lalesh. Now peacocks are not natives to desert and they cant survive there. Also yazid women wear saree.
Hindus of Iraq - Yazidis.
Then just look at the wordings , The word ‘mot’ means death. Phoenicians had a god called Muth who is identified with death.
In Tamil also dead people or forefathers are called “mutha athaiyar”.
In Mesopotamia these are Aruru Mami or Mama (My comment: Ma in Sanskrit; Amma in Tamil) Dingi ma Nin ma Namma”
In the above list, we see a lot of ‘’Ma’’ which stands for mother in Indian languages. Mama (amma), Mami are found in Tamil for women.
Do note :
Garuda is also revered as important sumerian diety. (eagle/falcon) and is associated with three tasks in Hindu scriptures: 1)Bringing Amrita from heaven to release his mother from slavery.
2) Bringing Soma herbs from the remotest Himalayan mountains to Vedic sages to perform Somayaga.
3)Bringing emeralds from the deeper valleys and hence emeralds is known as Garudaratna, favourite of Kubera, god of Wealth and Friend of Lord Shiva.
The site you mentioned I could only see ruins in them. Also 2 words of Sumerian origin in Tamil: லிபி <lipi> 'script, writing' and தீவான் <dīvān> 'minister, dewan'.
Sumerian 𒁾 dub 'clay tablet > Akkadian 𒁾 ṭuppu > Elamite 𒁾 tippi > Old Persian dipi 'document' > Ashokan Prakrit 𐨡𐨁𐨤𐨁 dipi/lipi 'writing' > Sanskrit lipi > Tamil lipi
Then
Garuda (eagle/falcon) is associated with three tasks in Hindu scriptures:
- Bringing Amrita from heaven to release his mother from slavery
- Bringing Soma herbs from the remotest Himalayan mountains to Vedic sages to perform Somayaga.
- Bringing emeralds from the deeper valleys and hence emeralds is known as Garudaratna, favourite of Kubera, god of Wealth and Friend of Lord Shiva.
(Could literally fill thousands of pdfs if one were to compile all such similarities before advent of abrahamic fake cults).
The site you mentioned they found animals that could be connected to constellations in the sky. So what does this proves? They just found 1 site there or a dozen doesnt prove shit.
Astronomy and heliocentrism is long prevalent here by ancient Rishis of Vedas and Dharmics.
All the doctrines and core concept of astronomy are already mentioned in RigVeda and Vedanta literature that followed after it .
This is a trait long prevalent in Bharat also. The surya Siddhanta alone dates to 14000 bp.
See also -
https://www.cerc.utexas.edu/~jay/anc.html
Do note there are around 3000 + archaeological sites here unexplored and the work is already in yet awaiting the wonders to be discovered.
2) Are you dyslexic too ? DOnt try to shove arguments that I never made. Aryan is not even a Sanskrit word let alone your anglo saxon tards who claim to create it . Its bastardized form of Arya by max mueller. Where the fact being "ARYA" has no racial connotation whatsoever with
race. Race even doesnt exist . Modern genetics have proven this. We all are genetically same and there as no such thing as pure blue eyed blonde hair ******ry. Hell caste system itself had origins in eurofagsland. Infact Arya has always used in Vedas to identify "PURU BHARAT" dynasty and the righteous noble spiritual abhyasis. Dasyus for maleccha and barbaric ADHARMI ****. Infact Sudas is regarded as BHARATA King of Trutsu Dynasty in Rigeveda
There are hundreds of such examples.
Sometimes, the word is used for referring to someone – male or female – as "Aryaputra" or "Aryakanya". Immaculate combing through the whole bunch of Vedic literature never reveals even one single instance of the word ARYAN being used to refer to a language or race.
In 1853, max mueller introduced the word "Arya" in English and assigned it the meaning of either a race or a language. The only reason he did this was to add an extra hand of credibility to the myth of Aryan Invasion Theory. It was not until 1888 that Mueller’s definition of the word "Arya" came under heavy criticism from highly learned historians and scholars. That is when mueller issued a statement refuting the theory he forwarded! Irony! The exact statement he issued is quoted,
“I have declared again and again that if I say Aryas, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair, nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language…to me an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar.”
Unfortunately, it was too late. By the time he issued statement, french and german trash and political groups had already picked up the word to propagate delusional claims - the idea of aryan race in a never ending shitquest for western identity.
Stop whining about that claimed astronomical site. Go check the contributions from 1 AD to 16 AD lmao. Couldnt even build a toilet and claims to build pyramids and shit and china . The only contribution is stealing shit from others and pillaging raping looting pedophilia and nothing else.
Did they even find the vast literature that backs astronomy ? The literature is not there buddy its here within the folds of Bhartiya subcontinent
Humanity advancement begun in a desert by anglo saxon is a fucking joke of the century. Even queen victoria got her first working toilet in 19th century ad lmfao.
Tells a lot about their absolute fucking state from 1 ad to 1600 ad when Bharat and Chinese had largest wealth and top gdp.
On Lahuradeva
Although there is another site The Tokwa Neolithic site in Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh. Estimated dates - 6th millenium bce. Evidence of cultivation of most modern day crops like rice, wheat, lentils, peas, mustards, gram, barley etc using advanced agriculture even in 10k bp.
Investigations started from the excavations carried out at the lakeside settlement of Lahuradewa, from 2001 to 2006. On the basis of the consistent presence of micro-charcoal in the nearby lake, human activity was considered to be going on in this area since 12,000 years. The presence of micro-charcoal observed in all the 28 sediment samples of Lahuradewa Lake, is an indicator of regular fire-events caused by human activity in the catchment area of the lake, during last 12,000 years. The site was brought to light by Krishnanand Tripathi, a resident of Lahuradewa.
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You still obsessed with tarim enh? Li (2015) further clarified that the Tarim Basin mummies carried Bhartiya maternal DNAs in good frequency.Ofcourse .The Tarim Basin mummies recovered had males in the R1a1, which is Bhartiya.
The study posted clearly shows , the data from the study gives evidence that the R1a1 found in Punjab is the oldest while the central eurofag haplotype is in the middle and Northern eurofag R1a haplotype is the youngest.now if your aitbs was was true, we would have seen from the genetic results that the Eastern European haplotype being the oldest and Indian haplotype being the youngest since those retarded claims that (the parent population) came as invaders/to North India. It is also important to note the age of different population groups in the study. The study states that Central/Eastern eurofag population is 12.5k years old while Northern Population is 6.9K years old. And the Punjabi/North Indian population is at least 15.5k years old. The high percentage makes it indigenous to Bharat . Now a lot of subclades of R1a also detected in other studies.
The age component in these studies is the most important because as per aitbs, IVC ended because of Aryans around 1500 BC i.e. 4000 years ago. In the light of above mentioned and similar other genetic studies, theaitbs is off the mark by at least 10000 years. The significance of this fact is that it demolishes the argument of retards who push the narrative that Hinduism is not native to BHARAT and came with the Aryan .Since North Indian population is at least 15,000 years old, this claim falls flat on its face and make Hinduism indigenous to BHARAT and BHARAT alone.
Also
The Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1* substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the caste system (Swarkar Sharma): Further, the average diversity of the R1a1* haplogroup in Central Asians, Europeans and Indians was also calculated. The highest diversity of 0.52 (for both sampling and stochastic processes s.d.=0.32) was observed in Indians when compared with Europeans (0.40, s.d.=0.27) and Central Asians (0.32, s.d.=0.23). ......This observation is again in favor of the suggestion that there has been no bulk migration from Central Asia to India.......Interestingly, among different groups, the age of Y-haplogroup R1a1* was highest in scheduled castes/tribes when compared with Central Asians and Eurasians. These observations weaken the hypothesis of introduction of this haplogroup and the origin of Indian higher most castes from Central Asian and Eurasian regions, supporting their origin within the Indian subcontinent.
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So the indus valley civilization is the oldest civilization, anything r1a related is aryan? I support migration theories from India to Europe
Dna doesnt carry religion or language.
Consider the Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra, a Vedic text. Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra 1records:
This refers to a Vedic king called Amavasu who migrated westwards, whose people are the Gandhari (Gandhara – Afghanistan), the Parsu (Persians) and the Aratta, who are tentatively identified as living in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat, which is located in Turkey (eastern Anatolia) and Armenia. Afghanistan (Gandhara) was historically part of the Indian civilization until the shitlamic bs.
Ofcourse there was an expansion and transfer of Dharma from here to other nations. Just as japs got their own Indra what they call it Taishakuten wew. As Bharat has continously expanded the Dharmic traditions which are still find in Indonesia , Malaysia , Thailand etc.
Religious similiarty is insane . Abrahamic cults dont count as religions those are salvation theologies stolen from judaism. Atleast jooz had their own religion.
Ofcourse as I previously mentioned here that Vedic Civilisation probably was spread across continents somewhere in the past. That doesnt mean your half dyk anglo saxon tribes were the authors of Rigveda. Infact RIGVEDA doesnt even talk about those outside within the Bhartiya interiors lmao.
As for science larp , its well discussed in here over many threads already by
@Indx TechStyle and many others. No point to repeat same things over and over.
There is also a good thread by
@1971ftw incase. He gave interesting arguments.
Asia had the largest GDP, had the better science (Bhartiyas and Chinese were living in settlements advanced ones with their own astronomical models and heliocentrism while eurofags was still persecuting Galileo for heliocentric theories in 16th century), better religions (west doesn’t have a religion of their own and worship an Asian Jew), better societies with even caste ridden India was a much better place for the lower castes than the peasant life (peasant castes as opposed to Nobility caste of Europe) in Europe during the 15-18th century. The list is endless.
I dont like to talk fuck about them, you started , its your kind who always looks at them as if they were your maibaap and then go on with multiple failed attempt to shove same horseshit upon us. Not gonna buy the larp ever.
Couldnt even discover working toilets let alone claiming to build pyramids in china this is pinnacle of retardation.
Never had any issues with Russians though. They are good people.
On the other hand , those subhumans still celebrate columbus, cook,cortes, albuquerque, alvarado, almagro,orellana, vllagra, aagon, deleon and a litany of mass plunderers child rapists vermins whose achievements can any day put that shaykh abu bakr al baghdadi ibrahim ibn awwad al badri al husseini al quraishi , al qaida al nusra,and other more recent butchers cunts to shame. This is their only legacy.
The funny thing is from the last 16th Century when your eurofags started coming to the shores of BHARAT, they suddenly started inventing and discovering new things (read science).
Infact Archaeological evidence and linguistics already established the 12000 years old cultural civilizational continuity .
YOu are not alone many came and went .
Now excuse me , last night I wasted my 3 hours over same repeated horseshit only to seee the thread getting locked
I suggest you go through Sangam Talks , The Jaipur Dialogues , Neeraj Atri , The Festival of Bharat , Alpha Defense , Artha - A Cultural Fest , Swadeshi Indology , Nilesh Oak , Shiv Shastry , Center for Indic Studies etc on youtube . The content is pure divine plus GOLD .
Ending this discussion now. I have 12 other threads to post in. Dont have much time .
@panzerfeist1 Good day !
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