Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

[sandeepdg]

"124 Arjun-Mk II tanks would cost Rs.5,000 crores" : each tank will cost 40 crores. That is too much for a tank

So what did you think, you will get one for 4 crores ?? That's the entire life cycle cost, if you know what that means. Any foreign tank would have cost us at least 50% more, barring the T-90.

 

[san]

So what did you think, you will get one for 4 crores ?? That's the entire life cycle cost, if you know what that means. Any foreign tank would have cost us at least 50% more, barring the T-90.

Not sure if it is life cycle cost, as it is not mentioned. May be due to our smart defence jurnalism :emot100:

 

[Arun thevar]

I HOPE AND PRAY THAT AT LAST THERE WOULD BE SOME ARJUN SEEING THE LIGHT OF THE DAY...................THESE NEWS AND ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME BUT NO GREAT RESULTS WERE SEEN.............KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED TO SEE THIS INDIAN TIGER IN ACTION ATLAST, KICKING THE ASSES OF THE ENEMIES:angry_6:

 

[luke holmes]

Depends upon what you mean. For some governments sourcing a MBT overseas is just unacceptable because you are dependent on long supply / logistical support. These things are pigs on spare parts. During the Falklands conflict Argentina was shafted when they went shopping to international suppliers for front line equipment. Believe it or not the Arjun is quite new and currently undergoing very rigorous tests by the Indian Army. I foresee it competing with the Russian and Chinese export markets - but will not threaten the technology based US and European export markets.

 

[Parthy]

DRDO Reveals Specifications of Arjun Mark-II, Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT)

2010-11-05 S. Sundaresh, the Chief Controller (Armaments and Combat Engineering) of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has revealed the specifications of the Future Main Battle Tank, Arjun Mark-II. The FMBT's are intended to replace the T-72 MBTs in the Indian Army in a post-2020 situation.

India Defence provides actual quotations by Mr. S. Sundaresh following by a comprehensive listing of all available specification parameters.

"For engine development, we have formed a national team comprising members from the academia, the user, industry and the DRDO. We have also gone in for an international consultant."

"We are confident that we will be ready with the FMBT prototype in five to seven years."

"We are trying to involve all the stakeholders -- the user [the Army], quality control personnel and the production agency -- in this project and the industry will be our partner. We will go for a modular design so that we can always upgrade the tank when new technology comes in."

"The immediate task for the CVRDE [Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment] is to develop the Arjun-Mk II tank and demonstrate it to the user and go for the production of 124 numbers in the HVF (Heavy Vehicles Factory]."

"With this upgrade, the commander can carry out his hunting job at night with his thermal sight and engage targets more effectively."

"The penalty for using these bricks (explosive armor reactive panel) is that they will add 1.5 tonnes to the tank's weight. But we can prevent top attack and side attack. We can add to the tank's protection from missiles and rocket-propelled grenades."

-- S. Sundaresh, Chief Controller (Armaments and Combat Engineering), DRDO.


* FMBT's engine will be two-thirds the size of Arjun Mark I MBT's engine and will generate 1,500-horsepower. First prototype of the indigenous engine would be ready by 2016. FMBT will weigh 50 tonnes.

* Project to develop the transmission for the tank is being launched. Engine and transmission ( aka "Bharat Power Pack") will meet the FMBT's mobility requirements.

* Volume occupied by the electronics package will be low.

* A total of 93 upgrades, including the advanced air defence gun system for firing at attack helicopters. Missiles firing capability to destroy long-range targets and bring down attack helicopters.

* Panoramic sight with night vision for the tank's commander. An automatic target tracking system to add accuracy when firing on a moving target.

* Explosive reactive armor panel which will comprise explosives in metallic brick form. These bricks will be mounted all round the MBT. When the enemy ammunition hits these bricks, they will explode and retard the energy of the projectile. Tanks armor will not be penetrated.

* Improvements in material, fuel injection and filtration technologies will contribute to the reduction in the engine size without compromising on power.

* Indian Army has placed an intent for production of 124 Arjun-Mk II tanks.

* Phase I, 45 tanks will roll out with 56 upgrades, including the missile firing capability and the commander's panoramic sight with night vision.

* Phase II, the remaining 79 tanks, with all the 93 improvements, will come off the assembly line. "By 2013-14, the first batch of around 30 tanks will go out," Dr. Sivakumar said.

* 124 Arjun-Mk II tanks would cost Rs.5,000 crores.

http://www.india-defence.com/reports-4717

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Surprised to see TankNutDave ranked Arjun pretty highly on his video! :happy_2:

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Made by TURKS, most impressive is duel independent FCS..
Arjun mk-1 & Leo-a4 share lots of commonality in both exterior and interior..

In future Our tanks will be getting similar updates in both Indian and Russian tank in Indian inventory..

 

[Parthy]

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[sayareakd]

kunal sir one of the upgrade of the Leo at frame No. 3.23 is already on Arjun tank here is the proof

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[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir one of the upgrade of the Leo at frame No. 3.23 is already on Arjun tank here is the proof

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Arjun is already have 25% of that what was shown in that vid..
Besides i was thinking abt EX..
FMBT is a 50ton, EX was also 50ton, We may see reincarnation of Karna in some other name with indigenous chassis similar to T-90s with 1500hp compact..

 

[chex3009]

Arjun is already have 25% of that what was shown in that vid..
Besides i was thinking abt EX..
FMBT is a 50ton, EX was also 50ton, We may see reincarnation of Karna in some other name with indigenous chassis similar to T-90s with 1500hp compact..

Kunal Sir, can you give some details about Tank Ex of India. Its developmental program, stats and what numbers Indian Army is thinking to induct????

 

[sayareakd]

Kunal Sir, can you give some details about Tank Ex of India. Its developmental program, stats and what numbers Indian Army is thinking to induct????

Tank Ex has no takers in IA (DGMF) despite the fact that it has got best of both worlds, Arjuns gun and the T72's light weight.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Arjuns gun and the T72's light weight.

Not only Arjun Gun but Arjun updated electronic and BMS, The turret offered much better protection as Armour is more than T-72s turret also it was spacious..

It was rejected Coz DRDO developing on new imported chassis as Russian didn't allow Indians to modify existing chassis..

So the product was a expensive upgrade compare to all upgrades, hence rejected..

 

[Rahul Singh]

Kunal Sir, can you give some details about Tank Ex of India. Its developmental program, stats and what numbers Indian Army is thinking to induct????

Actually Tank EX program came out of Army "Combat Improved Ajay" program for upgrading T-72. CVRDE proposed for marrying T-72 Hull with Arjun's proven gun and turret in addition to all those advanced electronics directly from MBT Arjun. But then Army had peoples like Deepak Kapoor and his allies tried everything possible to get even Arjun cancelled who cares for Tank-EX.

Anyway flowing is the copy paste from wikipedia and gives quite useful insight.

The Tank Ex at 47 tons is heavier than the T-72M1 (41 tons) and much lighter than the Arjun MBT, which tips the scales at 58.5 tons.The Tank-Ex has a 1,000 hp (700 kW) power plant (like on the Combat Improved Ajeya) giving a power to weight ratio of 21 hp (16 kW)/ton for a weight of 47 tons. This represents an improvement over the T-72M1's 20 hp (15 kW)/ton with a weight of 41 tons and a 780 hp (582 kW) power plant. The Tank Ex utilizes the Arjun MBT's 120 mm rifled gun firing unitary APFSDS and HESH semi combustible cartridge case ammunition. A total of 32 rounds are carried as compared to 39 in the Arjun and 45 two piece ones in the T-72. The choice of caliber, weapon design and ammunition allegedly make it superior to the in-service 125 mm 2A46 guns on the T-72M1. A global positioning system is provided for accurate navigation. This is a feature common to both the Arjun MBT as well as the Combat Improved Ajeya. The Tank Ex utilizes the "Kanchan" composite armor especially over its frontal arc (turret as well as glacis) giving it protection against both Kinetic and HEAT rounds. The usage of the Arjun turret design indicates that the Tank-Ex may also have its "ready" ammunition stored in the bustle (as in the Arjun), separated from the crew and provided with blow off panels. This would be a significant protective feature in line with western design practices. The Tank Ex retains the T-72's mobility, with a road speed of 60 km/h and a cross-country speed of 40 km/h. With a maximum gradient climb at 30 degrees it remains in line with all variants of the T-72 like the T-72BM. The Tank Ex is better at trench crossing: 2.6 meters as compared to the T-72M1's 2.28 meters. Vertical Obstacles 0.85 metres tall can be surmounted. Shallow fording is quoted as 1.2 metres. The Tank EX should also have the possibility to fire the Israeli LAHAT missile from its gun-barrel, like the Arjun.

 

[Agantrope]

Not only Arjun Gun but Arjun updated electronic and BMS, The turret offered much better protection as Armour is more than T-72s turret also it was spacious..

It was rejected Coz DRDO developing on new imported chassis as Russian didn't allow Indians to modify existing chassis..

So the product was a expensive upgrade compare to all upgrades, hence rejected..

I dont think so Kunal sir. There are lot of modified T-72 based tanks all over the world. Moreover for Tank-EX the tank hull is not modified for it (thought not sure).

Degman of Croatia

PT-91 of Polnad

If this is possible then why cant we make our own version with it? Instead of upgrading the old T-72 of 75 batches can be replaced with this rite? why not people even dare to think of it.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I dont think so Kunal sir. There are lot of modified T-72 based tanks all over the world. Moreover for Tank-EX the tank hull is not modified for it (thought not sure).

Their are indeed lots of modification but the turret ring of EX is totally different than turret ring of T-72, As you know Arjun chassis is spacious and big with a bigger turret ( 2 ton ) where existing T-72 chassis`s turret rings needed to be modified or to place modified Arjun Turret, The turretring of EX/Arjun is little bigger than T-72..

Degman ( M-84 ) and PT-91 use regular T-72 turret, Degman use add-on Armour like LeoA4 upgrade, And PT-91 turret use ERA tiles..

Degman of Croatia

I really Love this tank..
Sad it was ditched coz of Costs..

KARNA

DEGMAN

PT-91

t-72 era

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[sayareakd]

it is heart breaking that we have this report of Sep 2004, now 2010 is going to over in few days and still we dont have this tank in large number.

Even after beating T90 tank, DGMF has only given symbolic order, that to after danda from GOI. :angry_6::angry_10:

 

[shashi]

it would be nice to read the full article.Can some one scan the whole article ?

 

[sayareakd]

it would be nice to read the full article.Can some one scan the whole article ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36514626/Arjun-Autocar-Report