Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

[utubekhiladi]

50 Bucks says ARJUN MKII will outperform T-90 in all areas

 

[utubekhiladi]

The declaration of the testing of the Arjun Mk-II prototype comes a few weeks after Russia presented an improved version of the T-90 tank at the Defexpo 2012 exhibition in New Delhi. The timing is no coincidence and DRDO is aggressively building a tank that can outclass one of the best tanks in the world. Russia has done everything to prove that it's T-90 surpasses the Arjun in all respects and DRDO is clearly not in a mood to accept that.


i like drdo's confidence and do not give up attitude :thumb:

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

i think the most possible case is redesigned arjun will resembly close to leo2a6.however i will be not surprised if the turret resembles close to that of merkava4 since IMI is providing consultancy to drdo in this regard.the arjun mk2 with improved 120mm gun,additional era armour plates(or nera) and indegeneous 1500hp engine,trophy aps etc will make it a 65 ton monster to which the combined might of paki & chinese armour would have no answer to.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

is there a international tank competition like sniper world cup,special forces competition etc.if yes the drdo should definately test our arjun mk2 with the likes of leo2a6,m1a2,merkava4,challenger,k-2 type mbt's which are of similar class of arjun.testing arjun against t-90 is not only an insult to arjun mbt but to entire 3rd genration 60+ton family of heavy tanks.it is like testing the firepower of m-4 rifle against that of 50 cal m-2 browning

 

[Kunal Biswas]

i think the most possible case is redesigned arjun will resembly close to leo2a6.however i will be not surprised if the turret resembles close to that of merkava4 since IMI is providing consultancy to drdo in this regard.the arjun mk2 with improved 120mm gun,additional era armour plates(or nera) and indegeneous 1500hp engine,trophy aps etc will make it a 65 ton monster to which the combined might of paki & chinese armour would have no answer to.

AFAIK, Arjun MK-2 have two prototypes, the one above posted ( May be ) of P1, According to P1 there are minor deign changes..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

this generation had one way BMS... this is two way BMS.

Sir,
can you give some more light on this two way BMS system..

 

[sayareakd]

I would love to see something like this with Arjun tank. It will add more 360 degree situational awareness to crew.




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[Kunal Biswas]

Some Photos I took in 2010..

 

[H.A.]

I would love to see something like this with Arjun tank. It will add more 360 degree situational awareness to crew.


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Also there is another system which should be added, suitable for troop carriers like Jeeps etc. would be very useful for Anti - Maoist operations.

 

[sayareakd]

Also there is another system which should be added, suitable for troop carriers like Jeeps etc. would be very useful for Anti - Maoist operations.

better add this remote weapon station with reading of angle of gun shot and direction to take effective counter action...........:cool2:

 

[H.A.]

better add this remote weapon station with reading of angle of gun shot and direction to take effective counter action...........:cool2:

Unfortunately i doubt they are interested in the Indian scenario, tried contacting them several times using all the resources available, however they never replied.

 

[sayareakd]

Unfortunately i doubt they are interested in the Indian scenario, tried contacting them several times using all the resources available, however they never replied.

try getting Israeli system

Sniper Location & Gunshot Detection Systems

 

[Apollyon]

Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?

Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?


As the Arjun Mk.2 rumbles at the Pokhran field firing range (the prototype is understood to have arrived there on May 10), warming up for user trials from the first week of June, a combination of factors may have killed the tank at birth.

First, the trials in June will test the following performance parameters of the tank: acceleration, turning radius, stab performance, ergonomics, static fuel consumption, cruising fuel consumption, tilt driving. The trials will also involve firing of primary and secondary ammunition, consistency and rate of fire, firing at night using thermal imagers, and of all new equipment. The prototype does not have the mine plough as depicted in the CAD image above.

Consider the following facts:

* The Army has already begun to speak unofficially about the Arjun Mk.2 (in the coming days, you'll see reports about this in newspapers), talking of how trials may take as long as the protracted trials on the Arjun Mk.1, including comparative trials. This only means one thing -- the Army already has its mind made up, and we saw what that meant with the Mk.1. The changes the Army has asked for on the Mk.2 include several major modifications and offensive capabilities and extensive additions. This doesn't augur well for timely delivery. According to information supplied to Parliament, the Arjun Mk.2 is to begin deliveries in 2015, costing Rs 37-crore per tank. The blacklisting of IMI, a technology partner in the programme, has only made the Army more nervous.

* The Army wants the DRDO to get on with the FMBT programme. Legacy opposition to Project Arjun has boiled down to abject disregard for anything pertaining to the programme -- and perceptions that transacting on a programme that was commissioned just after the 1971 war is plainly foolish.

* As I'd indicated earlier, I can now confirm that a Russian delegation, which included officials from Uralvagonzavod and Rosoboronexport met with the a team from the Army's Mechanised Forces at Sena Bhawan in the second week of March this year. The scheduled meeting was to present information about the T-90MS that was to be unveiled at the Defexpo show a fortnight later. The meeting was a casual one -- the inviduals involved have met many times before on the expansive T-90 transactions. My sources tell me that it was conveyed at the meeting that if India chose to license-build more T-90s, the cost of transferring any additional technology would be waivered. The offer is a direct hit at the Arjun Mk.2. The upcoming trials also came up at the meeting. The Russians are understood to have offered to assist in the Indian FMBT project (and is in talks separately with DRDO about this) and that it was time to let the Arjun go.

* It is a fact that the Army has already told the Department of Defence Production that it will not expand its existing indent for 124 Arjun Mk.2s, as it does not need more heavy tanks. The Arjun Mk.2 is over 60 tons. This has been taken up even at a personal level by the Army's DG Mechanised Forces with Minister of State for Defence, MM Pallam Raju. The DRDO has said that any order below 500 tanks (in a mix of Mk.1 and Mk.2) makes Project Arjun a dead loss. This is precisely what it is likely to be, which is why products based on the Arjun chassis (bridge-layer tank, self-propelled artillery) or Arjun turret (Tank-X) are being pushed too. A total of 248 Arjun Mk.1/2 tanks in Army service is the maximum the programme can hope for.

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[pankaj nema]

Well if Russians can sweeten up the technology transfer component as a part of
T 90 deal then it is good for us

Their new T 90 AM is an improvement from the T 90 S that India bought

Arjun mk 2 must get a fair and equal chance to prove its might against T 90 AM

DRDO is much wiser now So they would have installed a Black box to prevent sabotage by the
NATASHA lobby in the Army [ Read Russian lobby ]

 

[sayareakd]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?

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[kaustav2001]

Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?
Livefist: Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?

Not sure how accurate this is but If true, then it's sad news indeed & would essentially mean that the Russians would continue to dominate the Indian Armour space for a long time to come. Even the FMBT may end up being just a lic./ modified copy(with limited tot) of the new russian armata tank.
Doesn't augur well for indigenous armour & gun development. Looks like we'll probably continue to be dependent on foreign suppliers for a long time to come.

 

[Damian]

I look at these graphics of Mk2, and wonder, what the hell they are thinking? Look how huge part of turret surface is not coered by ERA. Not to mention that long time ago mentioned weak zones in turret side armor are left without any modifications, only new storage boxes added...

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Not sure how accurate this is but If true, then it's sad news indeed & would essentially mean that the Russians would continue to dominate the Indian Armour space for a long time to come. Even the FMBT may end up being just a lic./ modified copy(with limited tot) of the new russian armata tank.Doesn't augur well for indigenous armour & gun development. Looks like we'll probably continue to be dependent on foreign suppliers for a long time to come.

If you read it, Its a speculation..

FMBT specs are not yet available officially, So i am not counting on that..


Offtopic:

Armata project is aimed at similar chassis used for different platforms to reduce logistical issues with spares, which reduce operational and maintenance costs..

 

[p2prada]

FMBT specs haven't been decided yet. According to CVRDE or DRDO chief, it will take 6 to 7 more months from today.

I think after that it would be 18 months of design and a few years before first prototype is ready. Not sure if we will know anything about it during this time.