Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

[WolfPack86]

Time has come to produce Arjun mk 2 tank in mass numbers.

 

[pmaitra]

Agreed to most points, except that part...
Arjun's tech might be India's latest one's, but the base platform is not. The Mark 2 seems like a jugaad upgrade of it.

You said "heavy armour of Arjun". Ok, take a look at this...

When an Al Khalid fires 5 Naiza DU shots, aiming for the centre of its silhouette, how many do you think will go clean through & kill a crewman?
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Unless it hits the blue area, probably 4 out of 5... 3 if the crew is lucky.

In case of a tank, it's the opponent gunner that should be the one who gets lucky, not our tankies, don't you think?
However a T-90 would fare better, atleast at longer ranges...

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[HariPrasad-1]

But, if the target is close, wouldn't you use your shells instead of the missile?
The tank may run out of shells and only have missiles, but then is that realistic?

That is Indian army's requirement and not mine. Yes, your question is genuine but ultimate authority is decide what is needed is Indian army.

 

[WolfPack86]

Finally Indian Army accepted weight of Arjun mk 2 tank 68 tonne. It is very good news.:biggrin2:

 

[Pulkit]

Finally Indian Army accepted weight of Arjun mk 2 tank 68 tonne. It is very good news.:biggrin2:

It is definitely a good news.... Source Please?
Will this lead to acceleration of production?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Finally Indian Army accepted weight of Arjun mk 2 tank 68 tonne. It is very good news.:biggrin2:

LINKS?????????????????????????

 

[jat]

But the holes in frontal armour layout remains a concern. Let's wait & see what kind of design changes have been going on...
Shouldn't comment until we get to see the redesigned Arjun Mark ii.

Still... If the NGMBT successfully turns out a ±50tonne tank, with so much experience gained in Arjun's weight reduction, much of the investments for making India's logistic chain capable of operating 60+tonne Arjun's could be ill-spent...
If NGMBT gets induction ready before 2030, that will be where Arjun ends & future starts!

The Arjun 2 armor is not a finished package. Have you been following its development? Because the obvious areas are covered wereas the difficulte areas are being left for later updates. This part is not a addon, but will need to be done by the factory in the initial assembly and construction. The other issue, Alkhalid? Serious. thats one crappy tank with out protection and definitely a crew coffin.
Arjun is not a bad design. Tanks though are being redefined in their mission. Thats what could kill the Arjun.

 

[WolfPack86]

It is definitely a good news.... Source Please?
Will this lead to acceleration of production?

Arjun Mark-2 tank set to see light of day
Ajay Banerjee

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, March 25

In an important move, the ‘Made in India’ Arjun Mark-2 tank project is set to see the light of the day.


Chairman of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) Dr S Christopher in an interview to The Tribune said, “We have had a meeting with the Vice-Chief of the Indian Army where it was agreed on accepting Mark-2. Modalities are being worked out”. Once done, the acceptance of necessity (AON) for 118 will be revived, he added.


The AON is decided by the Defence Acquisition Council headed by the Defence Minister. A total of 93 modifications have been done on the first version of Arjun — 124 were inducted — in 2010-2011.

On being asked if the Army was okay with the weight of the tank, the DRDO boss said: “The weight (the tank is almost 68 tonnes) has been accepted; that is a major change”. Most modern European tanks are of the same weight, and tank-transporters (specialised trucks) for Arjun are available.



The DRDO has promised to set up a system to maintain the Arjun Mark-2 within India. It will be an annual maintenance contract with the Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML) as a possible agency, Dr Christopher said. On the trials, he said, “These have done 4,000 kms of run, the upgrades will be tested.”


On artillery guns, Dr Christopher said the Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS), of which the Army has agreed to accept 40 pieces to start with, will get a more powerful engine to enable rapid movement. The guns designed by DRDO have been made by two private companies under the transfer of technology.


The DRDO is keen to get a slice of the 1,580 towed guns the Army is looking to buy. “Both companies (Tata Power SED and Bharat Forge) are gearing up produce more. We need an order for 200-300 guns to tie up logistics,” he said.

Talking about the next version of the Tejas, called ‘Mark1-A’, Dr Christopher said: “The design other than the AESA radar and the jammer pod is complete.”



Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is looking to import the AESA radar even as DRDO made a radar that will be tested next month. The IAF is looking at 83 ‘Mark1-A’, with 59 improvements over the existing Tejas.


The Indian Air Force has projected a need for 324 fighter jets over 15 years and has officially indicated that it needs the ‘Tejas Mark 2’ (medium combat aircraft). It will carry a more powerful engine and weigh almost 20 per cent heavier than Tejas.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/arjun-mark-2-tank-set-to-see-light-of-day/563832.html

 

[WolfPack86]

LINKS?????????????????????????

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/arjun-mark-2-tank-set-to-see-light-of-day/563832.html

 

[Bleh]

On being asked if the Army was okay with the weight of the tank, the DRDO boss said: “The weight (the tank is almost 68 tonnes) has been accepted; that is a major change”. Most modern European tanks are of the same weight, and tank-transporters (specialised trucks) for Arjun are available.

There is as good chance that, by "accepted weight" he'd meant the new weight after the reduction & the journalist simply googled in the 68 tonnes into the brackets...just like he £ucked up Tejas Mark ii's 20% weight increase!

Otherwise what's with all those years spent on weight reduction & claims (to @sayareakd) that they'd shed 3 tonnes off the Arjun Mark ii...?

 

[no smoking]

Most modern European tanks are of the same weight, and tank-transporters (specialised trucks) for Arjun are available.

Why doesn't he tell everyone that most of European bridges (as other developed countries) were upgrade to support 70ton tank during cold war.

 

[Kshithij]

Why doesn't he tell everyone that most of European bridges (as other developed countries) were upgrade to support 70ton tank during cold war.

The problem is not with just with bridge laying but also a problem regarding transportation by rail due to higher width, climbing mountains and being able to navigate on Pakistani infrastructure.

Laying bridge is also an important problem as when the bridges have to be constructed quickly over long distances, the heavy tanks are a problem. Short bridges are not the issue.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Why doesn't he tell everyone that most of European bridges (as other developed countries) were upgrade to support 70ton tank during cold war.

US Marines has M1A1 Abrams. And US Marine is one arm of armed forces of US that is expected to be deployed and fight on every possible spot on earth.

Certainly, they were not worried about Iraq having 70 ton rated bridges. Or if NoKO bridges have those load wearing capacities.

M1A1 was built for maximum protection so is our Arjun. Increase in weight is obvious.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Enough with first making Arjun into an M1A1 class for 2 decades and now trying to bring it into T-90 class for last one decade. IA won't get it. They are vodka lovers.

Just expedite development of FMBT. Do keep its weight around that of T-14 Armata and also mount a 125 mm gun. Just copy T-14 specs into following.

 

[Prashant12]

Desert Ferrari MBT Arjun Mk II at live demo dry run at DefExpo-2018

 

[cyclops]

Desert Ferrari MBT Arjun Mk II at live demo dry run at DefExpo-2018

What a beauty................

 

[cyclops]

Desert Ferrari MBT Arjun Mk II at live demo dry run at DefExpo-2018

Maybe it's just me but the RWS looks a bit different.
Bulky.......?

 

[cyclops]

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[nongaddarliberal]

I was looking at videos of the Strong Europe tank competition that took place recently. It just occured to me that if Arjun was participating in it, it would fit perfectly in with the other NATO tanks in terms of appearance, performance, crew roles, accuracy etc. The T 90 on the other hand would have looked very odd in that crowd.

 

[Craigs]

Why doesn't he tell everyone that most of European bridges (as other developed countries) were upgrade to support 70ton tank during cold war.

Bridges in India are not the problem. There is enough infra in India to support 70ton tanks. Army has a problem with bridges in Pakistan. As per them it is not strong enough. But with CPEC that problem is solved too. Pak's infra will be upgraded and so making it easier for Indian tanks. Thank you Xi Jinping.