AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[binayak95]

Boeing was not a consultant on the LCA project.

Dassault, BAe, CALSPAN were.

The first design study and consultancy was with Boeing - and that is also why we went with the GE 404 engine.

 

[binayak95]

Boeing was not a consultant on the LCA project.

Dassault, BAe, CALSPAN were.

European jet makers may replace Boeing in Tejas project | Mint (livemint.com)

 

[MonaLazy]

The first design study and consultancy was with Boeing - and that is also why we went with the GE 404 engine.

GE won because of lower cost, proven reliability, and lower fuel consumption.

May not have had anything to do with Boeing- they wanted India to sign an end-user agreement that would require India to seek US permission to export the aircraft to a third country.

IAF wants EJ200 engines for Tejas, but..

Analysts say the $750 million deal could go to GE, looking at current Indo-US ties.

www.dnaindia.com

price of the European engine was higher than the American engine. “Generally, aircraft equipments bought from US are cheaper because of their scale of production. European manufacturers do not have the same volumes and so tend to be expensive,” he said.

...

The two major aircraft and engine manufacturers are aggressively lobbying for the engine deal because its outcome will have a bearing on India’s order for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) worth over $10 billion.

“The government is likely to go for aircraft, which is powered by the same engine as Tejas."

Why Did India Reject Eurojet Engine In Favor Of GE F404 To Propel Its Tejas Fighter Jets?

As India is commissioning indigenous Tejas fighter jets, experts analyze why the DRDO opted for GE F404 instead of Eurojet engines that also powers Eurofighter Typhoons?

eurasiantimes.com

The F404 engine provides higher power, improved fuel efficiency, and increased mission capability for the combat-proven Boeing F/A-18C/D Hornet. It seems India wanted to go for the best when it came to Tejas fighter jets.

Earlier, the engine has already been praised by former Indian Air Force Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa, who said that the American-made engines had excellent fuel efficiency and that he had rarely seen that among the contemporary fighter jets that he had flown during his career.

ACM Dhanoa's interview where he stated the F-404 consumed less fuel at 7-8-10,000 ft than a MiG-21 at 33,000 ft. The F-404 is a "fuel sipper" of an engine.

 

[Blademaster]

The first design study and consultancy was with Boeing - and that is also why we went with the GE 404 engine.

I think it was Lockheed Martin that ADA/DRDO consulted with first.

 

[Azaad]

I think it was Lockheed Martin that ADA/DRDO consulted with first.

I think this article by ACM S Krishnaswamy detailing in brief the history of the ADA & LCA is a good primer . Then of course there's AM Philip Rajkumar's opus on the entire saga of the Tejas till the early 2000s IIRC .

Tejas: The Inside Story of How India Designed the Light Combat Aircraft - News18

Today, LCA Tejas is recognized for its state-of-the-art flight controls, which offer excellent and safe handling

www.news18.com

 

[MonaLazy]

I think this article by ACM S Krishnaswamy detailing in brief the history of the ADA & LCA is a good primer . Then of course there's AM Philip Rajkumar's opus on the entire saga of the Tejas till the early 2000s IIRC .

Tejas: The Inside Story of How India Designed the Light Combat Aircraft - News18

Today, LCA Tejas is recognized for its state-of-the-art flight controls, which offer excellent and safe handling

www.news18.com

WTF!! This is a book that should ideally be distributed free (the pdf version at least) so everyone who wants to can know about the blood, sweat, and tears that went into Tejas instead it seems DRDO has outsourced printing to a publishing house on the moon!

 

[Azaad]

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WTF!! This is a book that should ideally be distributed free (the pdf version at least) so everyone who wants to can know about the blood, sweat, and tears that went into Tejas instead it seems DRDO has outsourced printing to a publishing house on the moon!

Tejas Story: The Light Combat Aircraft Project https://amzn.eu/d/biio6h7


It's ~ INR 550 . Where are you located ? Out of India ?

 

[MonaLazy]

Tejas Story: The Light Combat Aircraft Project https://amzn.eu/d/biio6h7


It's ~ INR 550 . Where are you located ? Out of India ?

That's from 2007! Was hoping to get my hands on the more up-to-date 2021 book I linked in the previous post.

As a small consolation, there are a few pages freely accessible here..

https://www.drdo.gov.in/sites/default/files/monographs-documents/Radiance%20in%20Indian%20Skies%20The%20Tejas%20Saga.pdf

 

[Azaad]

That's from 2007! Was hoping to get my hands on the more up to date 2021 book I linked in the previous post.

Yes. With 24 additional pages & 2000 bucks more .

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Gyyan]

Ya'll Nibbiars

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Where is the irst???

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Ya'll Nibbiars

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Still just a dream.

 

[MirageBlue]

 

[jai jaganath]

Zara tasveer se tu nikal ke samne aa meri amca
Oh meri amca
Oh meri amca

 

[Gyyan]

 

[jai jaganath]

Mudiji funds release karwa do
Plezzz!

 

[samsaptaka]

at some point reality will hit Indian leadership, not everything has a shortcut and they have no choice but to do the hard part. Perhaps this JV will be the foundation for that 30-40 years down the road

Unfortunately our political leadership past, present (maybe future also) will never have the acumen or strategic thinking to acknowledge that reality has hit them, because they do not know what reality is. There is no one in the defense establishment, MoD who has yet told or advised GoI that jet engine dev should be top priority and should be funded like a black hole. Otherwise we would have seen changes. Even no one from IAF is advising the govt. Why ? Because everyone wants to import and earn kick backs. Technological military independence be damned, nation's future security be damned. What do I care ?

 

[SavageKing456]

He is the project manager of amca now?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

He is the project manager of amca now?

Didn’t he leave and join TATA Advanced Systems Ltd.(TASL)?

 

[SavageKing456]

Didn’t he leave and join TATA Advanced Systems Ltd.(TASL)?

I dont know,not following defence for long switched to space instead
Btw what is your source that he joined TASL
If it is true then we have a possible involvement of tasl in amca