AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Aditya Ballal]

I dont know,not following defence for long switched to space instead
Btw what is your source that he joined TASL
If it is true then we have a possible involvement of tasl in amca

A bunch of people on Twitter wished him all the best for his future at TASL. see his Twitter timeline too, he’s retweeting a bunch of stuff from TASL.

https://twitter.com/htt40prashant?s=21&t=yuvGwS0cN0KJv4VlBwTZFg

 

[SavageKing456]

A bunch of people on Twitter wished him all the best for his future at TASL. see his Twitter timeline too, he’s retweeting a bunch of stuff from TASL.

https://twitter.com/htt40prashant?s=21&t=yuvGwS0cN0KJv4VlBwTZFg

Strange but he said he is the Project manager of AMCA

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Strange but he said he is the Project manager of AMCA

 

[flanker99]

Strange but he said he is the Project manager of AMCA

He was before he left hal which is confirmed since even hvt sir said miss u in a tweet to him

 

[MirageBlue]

Didn’t he leave and join TATA Advanced Systems Ltd.(TASL)?

Not sure..but he was moved to the AMCA program after the successful completion of the HTT-40 program under his management.

 

[BON PLAN]

Boeing can be a very good partner. Right now they are almost out of the USAF scene as far as fighter jets are concerned. We can learn a lot from them.

Indeed. A last try to stay on the fighter arena.

 

[Hari Sud]

If India wants to succeed in AMCA then its development work has to be taken out of DRDO hand. The whole work and all the personnel have to be privatized. Remember DRDO operates like a government department, highly inefficient, full of procedures, no discipline and no accountability. With that way of working the AMCA will not succeed.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

If India wants to succeed in AMCA then its development work has to be taken out of DRDO hand. The whole work and all the personnel have to be privatized. Remember DRDO operates like a government department, highly inefficient, full of procedures, no discipline and no accountability. With that way of working the AMCA will not succeed.

May I know which private sector company has the capability of executing this project on their own?

 

[karn]

If India wants to succeed in AMCA then its development work has to be taken out of DRDO hand. The whole work and all the personnel have to be privatized. Remember DRDO operates like a government department, highly inefficient, full of procedures, no discipline and no accountability. With that way of working the AMCA will not succeed.

Kek.. the operating word here is :development: .. Which no private industry is willing to do since they have no clear cut customers .. They are good for manufacturing be it on foreign designs or those from DRDO / ISRO etc..

 

[MonaLazy]

May I know which private sector company has the capability of executing this project on their own?

Looking at the stupendous progress made by TAI's TF-X prompted me to take a look at how this entity is owned, so from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Aerospace_Industries:

Contrast that with DRDO:
Indian Armed Forces (0%)
MoD (100%)
Indian Aeronautical Industry (0%)

Maybe we should explore giving our armed forces more stake so they migrate from client/customer mentality to owner mindset?

An aircraft without CDR?
If our airforce was as supportive as them then DRDO would've rolledout before CDR process

That's exactly the point I am trying to make. Move our armed forces to own the action.

 

[SavageKing456]

If India wants to succeed in AMCA then its development work has to be taken out of DRDO hand. The whole work and all the personnel have to be privatized. Remember DRDO operates like a government department, highly inefficient, full of procedures, no discipline and no accountability. With that way of working the AMCA will not succeed.

Besides L&T who has the capability to venture into large scale R&D?
None not even TATA
And regarding L&T they have yet not positioned themselves for such program

 

[SavageKing456]

Looking at the stupendous progress made by TAI's TF-X prompted me to take a look at how this entity is owned, so from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Aerospace_Industries:

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Contrast that with DRDO:
Indian Armed Forces (0%)
MoD (100%)
Indian Aeronautical Industry (0%)

Maybe we should explore giving our armed forces more stake so they migrate from client/customer mentality to owner mindset?

An aircraft without CDR?
If our airforce was as supportive as them then DRDO would've rolledout before CDR process

 

[MonaLazy]

An aircraft without CDR?
If our airforce was as supportive as them then DRDO would've rolledout before CDR process

F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)

F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter (JSF) is a stealthy, supersonic multirole fighter developed by Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company for…

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F35
PDR Apr 2003
CDR F-35A Feb 2006, F-35B Oct 2006, F-35C Jun 2007

It took the Americans 3 & 4 years despite F-22/B-2 stealth experience.

AMCA
PDR Dec 2020 (almost 2021)
CDR 2023?

Are we really lagging on AMCA??

 

[SavageKing456]

F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)

F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter (JSF) is a stealthy, supersonic multirole fighter developed by Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company for…

www.airforce-technology.com

F35
PDR Apr 2003
CDR F-35A Feb 2006, F-35B Oct 2006, F-35C Jun 2007

It took the Americans 3 & 4 years despite F-22/B-2 stealth experience.

AMCA
PDR Dec 2020 (almost 2021)
CDR 2023?

Are we really lagging on AMCA??

That's what I am telling AMCA is not lagging Infact it's going well
I'm only dissappointed That we won't see EOTS in amca mk1 rest is all fine
Hope paperwork is done fast and we get ccs fund.
People get dissappointed when some drdo chief comes and says timeline contradicting earlier timeline.

 

[Sarjen]

why the first pic looks alike j20??!!

 

[samsaptaka]

Kek.. the operating word here is :development: .

What the hell does this 'kek' mean ?
@ezsasa @Indx TechStyle and other mods, this kind of language sounds childish, why
can't ppl write in plain eng and not this new gen fancy sms tongue ?

 

[NutCracker]

why the first pic looks alike j20??!!

J20 has massive canards.

 

[AdminIgMp]

Boeing India considering participation in the AMCA program studying the SPV model of manufacturing !!! Boeing's Indian subsidiary is considering participation in the Indian 5th generation stealth fighter AMCA program...and currently studying the proposed Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) model of building prototypes they are considering sharing their knowhow and logistical supplies for the project alongside their Indian partners like TATA Aerospace...although it is quite weird to have an American company involved in our own stealth fighter project which we are developing completely on our own from scratches...leakage of some sensitive information may endanger our whole Aerospace industry...what do you all think on this ???

Boeing India Considering Participation In The AMCA Program Studying The SPV Model Of Manufacturing

Boeing India considering participation in the AMCA program studying the SPV model of manufacturing

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[AdminIgMp]

MBDA offers Meteor-NG BVRAAM for India's AMCA 5th generation stealth fighter !!! MBDA has just approved the integration of Meteor BVRAAM for the last batch of 30 odd Tejas Mk-1A jets because of the installation of Indian AESA radar Uttam.....earlier MBDA had objections on the usage of Israeli ELTA ELM-2052 AESA radar with which they refused to integrate Meteor for Tejas Mk1A, but they have agreed...to supply Meteor for last batch of Tejas Mk1A, whole Tejas Mk2 MWF fleet and also the under development Meteor-NG for AMCA 5th generation stealth fighter !!! That's a fantastic development for the Indian Air Force....although we are on our way to develop our own Meteor equivalent Astra Mk2 and Astra Mk3 SFDR BVRAAMs with ranges from 200-350 kms !!!!

MBDA Offers Meteor-NG BVRAAM For India's AMCA 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

MBDA offers Meteor-NG BVRAAM for India's AMCA 5th generation stealth fighter

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[Hari Sud]

Besides L&T who has the capability to venture into large scale R&D?
None not even TATA
And regarding L&T they have yet not positioned themselves for such program

‘Agreed; then separate the DRDO into parcels and sell parcels with lock, stock and barrel to the private interests and let them run the show. Whatever could not be sold easily & immediately can be retained in DRDO.