AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

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KFX isn't even on ground and is a 4.5th gen aircraft,why the rant then?
If India had to go similar way with basic design it would have done and dusted with flight took earlier than KFX did you even know that similar KFX design was chosen like 4-5 years earlier we would have made it but we went for more advanced design.
For KFX to be an FGFA it needs to make block 2 which would require advanced stealth technologies and eventually would take time.
By then AMCA would have rollout and first flight
I believe that the deadline for first flight of amca by 2025 would be achieved.
Yes, our simple one design like F-22 Raptor was selected earlier.
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Koreans aren't even trying on the level of AMCA . They will only do so after successful completion of kfx as a 4.5 gen aircraft.

Our 4.5 gen jets are MWF and tedbf. Even su30mki is also 4.5 gen in which there is already indian mission computers and weaponry is included . ( Irst and maws under development.).

Amca is simply a generation ahead of kfx .

Even then we are far ahead of koreans

We have uttam aesa already on lca lsp.
D29 ew suit developed indigenously.
Maws / irst already in development for su30mki and MWF.
Sepentine intake already done.
Air to air Astra version already coming in
Sfdr already in testing mode.
Air to ground bramhos already here, rudram and bramhos ng already in Development.

Large area display already ready for MWF and amca.

Now compare how many of these things south korean have indigenously currently in either production or live testing.
How is our D29 EW Suite Compared to others?
 

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How is our D29 EW Suite Compared to others?
It's a top notch suite as far as capabilities of mig29 upg are concerned. It's supposed to make them much better than Pakistani block 52 + f16.

Anyway main point is we have already developed and deployed an ew suit. For MWF tedbf and amca we can build upon architecture of d29 and mayavi.
As we add more equipment irst/ old , dcmaws , towed decoy , sensor fusion , laser warning etc . We will have one of the best ew suite on the planet in operation.
 

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It's a top notch suite as far as capabilities of mig29 upg are concerned. It's supposed to make them much better than Pakistani block 52 + f16.

Anyway main point is we have already developed and deployed an ew suit. For MWF tedbf and amca we can build upon architecture of d29 and mayavi.
As we add more equipment irst/ old , dcmaws , towed decoy , sensor fusion , laser warning etc . We will have one of the best ew suite on the planet in operation.
What about Self Protection Jammer suite.
 

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A general read if u seek. UPG is with D29.

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“The MiG-29UPG capability is comparable to the F-16 Block 70 variant,” a senior IAF officer said.
F-16 Block 70 Vipers have an AESA Radar, our MiG-29 UPG currently lacks an AESA Radar.
 

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Absolutely true. Just making educated guesses for discussion points. J-20 with 2000+ have 150KN engine. Similarly f-35 with 1800 have 190KN. AMCA even with F414 is 98KN each so power is not the issue. Its more of what is necessary as in many articles it is clearly stated that TRMs are important part but not end all be all of radars.
Thrust doesn't mean anything for power output, right? Just asking.
 

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What about Su-30 engine then?
I guess question u r asking is about Super sukhoi upgrade and impact of older engine in that. India wanted to get su-35 and even better su-57 engine if possible but it delayed as negotiations were taking time. The decision to go with indian upgrade package is decided. Its double edged sword as better avionics and sensors have better power efficiency but more power requirement for full potential utilization. That is why while discussing radar trm module, EW suite and sensors addition balance needs to be made between performance vs features. We will see the final package once done but engine upgrade is surely desired if possible in MKI.
 

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If 1500 scaling is done right than assume capacity of 1800+. GaAs GaN difference. Anyhow not sure what is optimum value required as just having large number of TRM is not endgame for radars.
Are u sure that gan ll be used ... So far not even F22 uses that . Only Grippen recently made a test flight . GaN is expected to have larger output power compared to GaAs . Theoretically 10-50 times . We shd nt even be discussing number of trm if thats true .
 

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