AKASH-NG ( next generation )

[HariPrasad-1]

No one is going to buy Akash V1, there are simply too many more advanced SAMs available in the market from different sources. NG might stand a much better chance but we need to get it production ASAP.

Vietnam is very much interested in Akash NG. Vietnam has found it better than Israeli missile(Not Barak 8). It delivers a great bang for the buck. In my opinion, Akash NG can easily deliver the punch at 80 pc of the cost at a fraction of cost. Akash NG is a highly cost effective package.

 

[India Super Power]

Vietnam is very much interested in Akash NG. Vietnam has found it better than Israeli missile(Not Barak 8). It delivers a great bang for the buck. In my opinion, Akash NG can easily deliver the punch at 80 pc of the cost at a fraction of cost. Akash NG is a highly cost effective package.

It's not in production neither we have ordered its just being tested how can any nation think of it, it's still unproven where multiple foreign products are available with good record and quality

 

[Tshering22]

No one is going to buy Akash V1, there are simply too many more advanced SAMs available in the market from different sources. NG might stand a much better chance but we need to get it production ASAP.

I was talking about the NG. It is an effective platform for short-range air defense. While there are plenty of long-range and medium range platforms on sale, short-range ones are few and require more effort and political capital in general from traditional markets. We could benefit from it greatly. If only DRDO can push it on to TATA and L&T ASAP.

 

[Tshering22]

Vietnam is very much interested in Akash NG. Vietnam has found it better than Israeli missile(Not Barak 8). It delivers a great bang for the buck. In my opinion, Akash NG can easily deliver the punch at 80 pc of the cost at a fraction of cost. Akash NG is a highly cost effective package.

Our government has been dragging its feet around selling arms to Vietnam for 7 years. Vietnam is a bulwark against a complete Chinese takeover of the East Sea and the ASEAN regional control. NO other country there has the courage to stand up to the PLAN. BrahMos and Akash-NGs should have been shipped by now to them or at least a contract should have been signed.

 

[Lonewolf]

I was talking about the NG. It is an effective platform for short-range air defense. While there are plenty of long-range and medium range platforms on sale, short-range ones are few and require more effort and political capital in general from traditional markets. We could benefit from it greatly. If only DRDO can push it on to TATA and L&T ASAP.

What is the range of ng as per you

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Our government has been dragging its feet around selling arms to Vietnam for 7 years. Vietnam is a bulwark against a complete Chinese takeover of the East Sea and the ASEAN regional control. NO other country there has the courage to stand up to the PLAN. BrahMos and Akash-NGs should have been shipped by now to them or at least a contract should have been signed.

Philippines is buying Brahmos. Do you know that even Rafale struggled a lot initially to get customers. Today, it has really big orders. Indian systems has rwal potential. Once it gets going, it will go on and on and on.

 

[Akula]

Our government has been dragging its feet around selling arms to Vietnam for 7 years. Vietnam is a bulwark against a complete Chinese takeover of the East Sea and the ASEAN regional control. NO other country there has the courage to stand up to the PLAN. BrahMos and Akash-NGs should have been shipped by now to them or at least a contract should have been signed.

They already operate Bastion anti ship missile system. But we can sell other systems to them.

 

[Lonewolf]

Akash NG has an optical RF seeker compared to standard RF seeker on the MRSAM, so I would go so far as to say Akash NG seeker is more advanced and jam proof compared to MRSAM.

What does optical rf seeker means @Aniruddha Mulay ?

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

What does optical rf seeker means @Aniruddha Mulay ?

RF stands for Radio Frequency, it is basically a small radar mounted at the missile's nose cone which locks onto the target.
The optical element is part of the detonation mechanism, the missile projects a narrow laser beam perpandicular to the flight axis of the missile and detonates when the missile nears its target.

 

[Lonewolf]

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RF stands for Radio Frequency, it is basically a small radar mounted at the missile's nose cone which locks onto the target.
The optical element is part of the detonation mechanism, the missile projects a narrow laser beam perpandicular to the flight axis of the missile and detonates when the missile nears its target.

Oh so the optical part is regarding warhead detonation .

 

[vishnugupt]

Today I have discovered a brilliant masterpiece of Indian defence journalism ( aka Paneer Tikka Journalism )

Range of Akash NG !
According to Wikipedia it is 30km where it give reference of a tweet from a News media ( CNN or CBS). In this video (Tweet) Journalist is appeared saying “here we have “manager of company” who will tell us more about Akash NG. This Manager actually quoted 30km range of Akash NG in video clip.

But Funny thing is, This is not a manager of Akash project or DRDL but a manager of private company involved in hydrolics named as Electropneumatic pvt Ltd.

 

[Fatalis]

Source: Defence Decode

 

[Fatalis]

 

[Fatalis]

System	Akash-NG	QRSAM
Users	Indian Air Force	Indian Army
Radar	X-band MFR	X-band BMFR, C-band BSR
Range	3km to 30km*	3km to 30km
Altitude	14km	6-10km*
Components	1 Weapon System contains 6 Firing Units with each FU having 4 Missile Launch Vehicles. Each MLV contains 6 ready to fire missiles.	1 Weapon System contains 3 Batteries with each battery having 4 Combat Groups with each CG having 1 Missile Launch Vehicle. One MLV contains 6 ready to fire missiles.
Total Missiles per System	144​	72​

 

[NeXoft007]

System	Akash-NG	QRSAM
Users	Indian Air Force	Indian Army
Radar	X-band MFR	X-band BMFR, C-band BSR
Range	3km to 30km*	3km to 30km
Altitude	14km	6-10km*
Components	1 Weapon System contains 6 Firing Units with each FU having 4 Missile Launch Vehicles. Each MLV contains 6 ready to fire missiles.	1 Weapon System contains 3 Batteries with each battery having 4 Combat Groups with each CG having 1 Missile Launch Vehicle. One MLV contains 6 ready to fire missiles.
Total Missiles per System	144​	72​

QR-SAM have confirmed 14km altitude reach. Akash-NG's volume is slightly larger than Barak-8 and both based on same tech.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

I think we are miss reading Brochure of Akash NG. Its range against cross moving targets/aircraft might be 30km but its max aerodynamic range against fighter aircraft would be 50km-70km. The limitation might be of radar. If bigger radar is used or target has bigger RCS (then 2 sq m) then range will increase but system will become less mobile or less accurate, as case might be

 

[Fatalis]

QR-SAM have confirmed 14km altitude reach. Akash-NG's volume is slightly larger than Barak-8 and both based on same tech.

Yeah, I saw the 14km altitude. But, there were so many conflicting information so I just put a star.

 

[abingdonboy]

I think we are miss reading Brochure of Akash NG. Its range against cross moving targets/aircraft might be 30km but its max aerodynamic range against fighter aircraft would be 50km-70km. The limitation might be of radar. If bigger radar is used or target has bigger RCS (then 2 sq m) then range will increase but system will become less mobile or less accurate, as case might be

Less mobile? Akash is not meant to be a high mobility system. It will be part of the strategic AD network of IAF and for the IA will provide mostly static point defence. QRSAM by nature is meant to be highly mobile and rapidly deployable

so one can’t start using this excuse preemptively.30Km range given the advancement in Indian missile propulsion and packaging is highly regressive to the point it’ll be obsolete before it even enters service with such a range

 

[Fatalis]

Credits: Strategic Frontier

 

[Fatalis]

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Credits: Strategic Frontier

As we can see again the quoted range is 30 km. But DRDO itself has previously confirmed the range as 80 km.

Credits: Porky Kicker sir ji.

My 2 cents: May be the IAF didn't wanted the government to question them about 2 missile having same range so they requested DRDO to quote the reduced range everywhere.