Agni V Missile

[Bullet]

You doubt?
Bet you we have from a decade, since Agni 3...
It's so obvious, if we can launch multiple satellites using a single Rocket, into different orbit using launch bus, we can launch multiple RV warheads using single missile into different trajectory to hit different cities. Now check out since when ISRO is launching multiple satellites using PSLV you will know since when we have mirv capabilities....:biggrin2:

I love your simple logic. [emoji122]

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[porky_kicker]

In order to carry out a full range test, you either have a land size as large as Russia, or a strong ocean control like US on east Pacific. Otherwise, everyone will closely watch your test and you just give away all your critical missile data to them.

Seriously ?

First thing you totally missed the gist of my post which you quoted

Secondly

Large land mass is kind of necessary for testing ground / air launched long range cruise missiles / articles. However It is not a requisite for testing long range ballistic missiles unless if you have the luxury.

Even then long range cruise missiles etc can be tested at floating test ranges if one has the necessary infrastructure to support the same.

DRDO project 20 MRIS is dedicated towards testing primarily such articles and on a secondary role can support project OSS MRIS which is primarily for testing ballistic articles.

And what do you mean by strong ocean control ?
It is noobish claim , tests can be conducted in international waters provided notams are issued

As for snooping , everybody snoops on everybodies tests be it land or over water.

But do you even know what they snoop for ?
Provided If you know then you will also know what it means ie the beginning of a long headache for the snoopers with no guaranteed success.

 

[porky_kicker]

Look at this pic from ISRO

Look hard
And keep looking
Don't stop staring at it
If the truth draws on you then you may stop looking :biggrin2:

@sayareakd just for fun try to compare the structure with the relevant iit k drdo slides. Keep in mind that structural scaling will vary due to required optimised nature of the military article.

 

[Vishal Chandorkar]

You doubt?
Bet you we have from a decade, since Agni 3...
It's so obvious, if we can launch multiple satellites using a single Rocket, into different orbit using launch bus, we can launch multiple RV warheads using single missile into different trajectory to hit different cities. Now check out since when ISRO is launching multiple satellites using PSLV you will know since when we have mirv capabilities....:biggrin2:

I am not doubting. Happy to know that we do have it. I used to think it’s still in the works. Ur correlation makes sense

 

[lcafanboy]

Look at this pic from ISRO

Look hard
And keep looking
Don't stop staring at it
If the truth draws on you then you may stop looking :biggrin2:

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@sayareakd just for fun try to compare the structure with the relevant iit k drdo slides. Keep in mind that structural scaling will vary due to required optimised nature of the military article.

Yes! This is it agni 3 mirv bus....

 

[sayareakd]

In order to carry out a full range test, you either have a land size as large as Russia, or a strong ocean control like US on east Pacific. Otherwise, everyone will closely watch your test and you just give away all your critical missile data to them.

Purpose is to know our capabilities, if you could handle it, good for you. You will also know that deterrence at work.

 

[shiphone]

LOL.... dear young Indian...I'm really surprised that you have never seen the 4th stage of PSLV...the PS4...which was there from the very begining.

just try this keyword "pslv 4th stage" on google.

 

[Advaidhya Tiwari]

Look at this pic from ISRO

Look hard
And keep looking
Don't stop staring at it
If the truth draws on you then you may stop looking :biggrin2:

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@sayareakd just for fun try to compare the structure with the relevant iit k drdo slides. Keep in mind that structural scaling will vary due to required optimised nature of the military article.

It is PSLV 4th stage image which you took from WikiPedia. It looks like a Shiv Ling. But what is the specialty here?

 

[Chinmoy]

LOL.... dear young Indian...I'm really surprised that you have never seen the 4th stage of PSLV...the PS4...which was there from the very begining.

just try this keyword "pslv 4th stage" on google.

Well @porky_kicker did mentioned it is from ISRO. He just asked to compare it with another slide presented by DRDO.

 

[porky_kicker]

LOL.... dear young Indian...I'm really surprised that you have never seen the 4th stage of PSLV...the PS4...which was there from the very begining.

just try this keyword "pslv 4th stage" on google.

I have no words left except to thank you sir for enlightening me on the issue.

Please continue doing the good work.

Saying anything else on the matter will be a obvious waste of time won't it ?

And sir I hope you realised the joke is on whom, mr . Obvious :biggrin2:

 

[porky_kicker]

Another question

What are the circular vents ( bleed ports ? / thruster vents ? / etc etc ) for ? 4 in no .

Look at the base of the cone 1st pic ( 2 of such are visible ) 2nd pic 2 of such are visible

I am sure our Chinese comrades will be happy to help us ( Just do a small favour and don't state the obvious facts like it is Agni 3 blah blah ........ )

Anybody ? :biggrin2:

 

[porky_kicker]

Well @porky_kicker did mentioned it is from ISRO. He just asked to compare it with another slide presented by DRDO.

Come on

Why did you have to say the obvious

That was supposed to be a secret

 

[porky_kicker]

Look at this pic from ISRO

Look hard
And keep looking
Don't stop staring at it
If the truth draws on you then you may stop looking :biggrin2:

View attachment 30259

@sayareakd just for fun try to compare the structure with the relevant iit k drdo slides. Keep in mind that structural scaling will vary due to required optimised nature of the military article.

Will explain the same later in a week or so, but anybody here who can beat me to it ?

 

[porky_kicker]

Look at this pic from ISRO

Look hard
And keep looking
Don't stop staring at it
If the truth draws on you then you may stop looking :biggrin2:

View attachment 30259

@sayareakd just for fun try to compare the structure with the relevant iit k drdo slides. Keep in mind that structural scaling will vary due to required optimised nature of the military article.

Will explain the same later in a week or so, but anybody here who can beat me to it ?

A small hint ( analogue if I might say )

Now correlate with the ISRO pic I posted

Also don't forget to include the DRDO iit slides

Also this isro slide should help get more insight

And it goes without saying what I was trying to imply from the perspective of available and demonstrated civilian technology at the hands of ISRO which can give a insight to the expected relevant military systems like Post Boost Control System (PBCS)

Only need is engineering and SWaP optimisation as per design needs and inclusion of required additional technology like military grade GNC etc etc to the above for a military grade version either as derived system or as a new purpose built system utilising the tech building blocks from the same

Samgne wale samaj gaenge , Ishara kafi hai

@sayareakd @Chinmoy and others
And last but not the least our Chinese comrades :biggrin2:

 

[porky_kicker]

It is PSLV 4th stage image which you took from WikiPedia. It looks like a Shiv Ling. But what is the specialty here?

Shiv ling ? I hope lord shiva lands a kick on your ass for this bro :biggrin2:

That is the fuel tank

 

[porky_kicker]

The relevant DRDO IIT slides for comparison with the above posts

 

[indiatester]

A small hint ( analogue if I might say )

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Now correlate with the ISRO pic I posted

Also don't forget to include the DRDO iit slides

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Also this isro slide should help get more insight

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And it goes without saying what I was trying to imply from the perspective of available and demonstrated civilian technology at the hands of ISRO which can give a insight to the expected relevant military systems like Post Boost Control System (PBCS)

Only need is engineering and SWaP optimisation as per design needs and inclusion of required additional technology like military grade GNC etc etc to the above for a military grade version either as derived system or as a new purpose built system utilising the tech building blocks from the same

Samgne wale samaj gaenge , Ishara kafi hai

@sayareakd @Chinmoy and others
And last but not the least our Chinese comrades :biggrin2:

But thats not the nose cone shape of our missiles. Are you suggesting that they are compatible? The diameter of PSLV's 4th state is 2.8mtrs vs that of Agni 2 mtrs. Not to mention that PSLV is liquid engine vs Agni solid. (don't flame me for stating the obvious)

Ah well, I will wait for your explanation later on.

 

[porky_kicker]

But thats not the nose cone shape of our missiles. Are you suggesting that they are compatible? The diameter of PSLV's 4th state is 2.8mtrs vs that of Agni 2 mtrs. Not to mention that PSLV is liquid engine vs Agni solid. (don't flame me for stating the obvious)

Ah well, I will wait for your explanation later on.

Sir where did I say they are explicitly compatible ?

One cannot simply take a civilian system and utilise it perse , I mentioned SWaP , optimisation engineering , technology blocks didn't I ?

Why are you mentioning Agni 2 ? It is irrelevant in the discussion. It sports a single RV

Agni 3 has 3 mirvs but does not follow the above template , it uses a different payload bus configuration designed with a little help from the ruskies .

I was alluding all along to Agni 6 , k 4/5 etc those missiles which have ( will have ) ogival nose cone shape . Why do you think I kept mentioning DRDO IIT slides in the relevant posts of mine ?

Also from guys I know , they alluded that the PSLV trans stage post boost control system ( PBCS ) can be considered equivalent to US multiple launch technology. Though they added optimisation and certifying the same is a entirely different ball game and takes lot of effort and time. Infact it involves herculean effort

 

[indiatester]

Sir where did I say they are explicitly compatible ?

One cannot simply take a civilian system and utilise it perse , I mentioned SWaP , optimisation engineering , technology blocks didn't I ?

Why are you mentioning Agni 2 ? It is irrelevant in the discussion. It sports a single RV

Agni 3 has 3 mirvs but does not follow the above template , it uses a different payload bus configuration designed with a little help from the ruskies .

I was alluding all along to Agni 6 , k 4/5 etc those missiles which have ( will have ) ogival nose cone shape . Why do you think I kept mentioning DRDO IIT slides in the relevant posts of mine ?

I doubt anyone thinks that we are not capable of MIRV. It has always been the political decision not to do it (not sure why. I highly doubt it will lead to an arms race).
Even if we do use similar bus configurations and nose cone shapes from PSLV, we still need to test them a few times to be sure don't we?

 

[Arihant Roy]

I doubt anyone thinks that we are not capable of MIRV. It has always been the political decision not to do it (not sure why. I highly doubt it will lead to an arms race).
Even if we do use similar bus configurations and nose cone shapes from PSLV, we still need to test them a few times to be sure don't we?

Fellas have a look at this image. Trident D5 third stage MIRV bus with Mk5 MIRV.

Compare it with the initial fourth stage PSLV pic that porky_kicker had posted.