Aftermath of Trump Victory

[pmaitra]

Trump is not as hateful as he is portrayed to be. This is an interesting video:

dear LGBT people

 

[OrangeFlorian]

Clinton isn't going to protect the LGBTQ community cause she wants to import millions of muslims so she can consolidate her power and expand the welfare state at the expense of homosexuals

FYI Anything beside the L, G and B are mental diseases.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

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[Razor]

Trump is not as hateful as he is portrayed to be. This is an interesting video:

dear LGBT people

Yeah maybe, but he does seem to get the support of a lot of these David Duke type guys (this david guy is so amusing, he is a white supremacists, who says america is/should be a white nation, also he is anti-semitic and he has a semitic name )
Wasn't a KKK rally announced in support of Trump and celebrating his victory, in your state NC)
Also would I be wrong in saying that with the Trump wagon, a lot of the "nice guys" have come out of the wood work (as @Project Dharma termed it)
Is it having a similar effect as Brexit (where apparently racism is on the rise including killing of a polish man)?

Racist college students create ‘****** lynching’ group on messaging app

University of Pennsylvania students were left horrified after being added to a group called “N*gger lynching” on mobile messaging app GroupMe.

Officials from the university later said the account was started by students in Oklahoma.

Calvary Rogers, who is a research assistant at the University of Pennsylvania said “every single black freshmen” were added to the group.

“I stared an administrator in the eye and literally lost it,” Rogers wrote in a Facebook post. “And quite honestly I just can’t stop crying. I feel sick to my stomach. I don’t feel safe.”

Screenshots captured by BillyPenn.com showed shocking messages from students where people were referred to as “coons” and “stupid n*igger.” Another message said, “Never be a n*gger in SAE,” in reference to the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity.

Other racist groups called “Mud Men” and “Trump Is Love” were also created and contained offensive messages, according to the Daily Penn.

Racist incidents have risen in the US since Donald Trump’s election win. Details of incidents, including school children in Michigan chanting “build that wall” to their Latino classmates, have been uploaded to social media, attracting widespread condemnation.

https://www.rt.com/usa/366686-racist-students-groupme-lynching/

 

[Razor]

FYI Anything beside the L, G and B are mental diseases.

All of them including LGB are mental disorders.

 

[IndianHawk]

Yeah maybe, but he does seem to get the support of a lot of these David Duke type guys (this david guy is so amusing, he is a white supremacists, who says america is/should be a white nation, also he is anti-semitic and he has a semitic name )
Wasn't a KKK rally announced in support of Trump and celebrating his victory, in your state NC)
Also would I be wrong in saying that with the Trump wagon, a lot of the "nice guys" have come out of the wood work (as @Project Dharma termed it)
Is it having a similar effect as Brexit (where apparently racism is on the rise including killing of a polish man)?

Racist college students create ‘****** lynching’ group on messaging app


https://www.rt.com/usa/366686-racist-students-groupme-lynching/

Haterd was always there just that now politics will not be able to suppress it.

White conservatives were tolerant as long as they were richest and demographically dominant now both things are changing and there goes tolerance.

Amir Khan should comment upon this:bounce:

 

[pmaitra]

@Razor, yes, he gets support from a lot of these problem groups.

Now, KKK will hold a rally in North Carolina to honour Trump. These do have such rallies which are usually peaceful, and these are covered under the 1st Amendment. An Indian friend of mine once went to one of these rallies. It was just a congregation of people who adhere to KKK, but involved speeches and a march, and nothing more. Of course, you have cops in case something goes out of hand.

On the other hand, there are a lot of anti-Semitic sentiments that I see associated with the Trump victory. The issue here is, Trump's son-in-law is Jewish and wield considerable influence over the Trump campaign. So, I don't think one could blame Trump for any group extending support to him. Also, a group, no matter whatever ideology it has, might support Trump based on certain policies, which are not related to any type of violence or hatred at all.

For example, we don't have to endorse Adolf Hitler, but do we have any reason to hate VolksWagen?

 

[tharun]

Why most people in US is patient of these left liberals..here in india we don't have any thing to kick their asses..but there they have guns to weed out these assholes...

 

[Project Dharma]

@Razor, yes, he gets support from a lot of these problem groups.

Now, KKK will hold a rally in North Carolina to honour Trump. These do have such rallies which are usually peaceful, and these are covered under the 1st Amendment. An Indian friend of mine once went to one of these rallies. It was just a congregation of people who adhere to KKK, but involved speeches and a march, and nothing more. Of course, you have cops in case something goes out of hand.

On the other hand, there are a lot of anti-Semitic sentiments that I see associated with the Trump victory. The issue here is, Trump's son-in-law is Jewish and wield considerable influence over the Trump campaign. So, I don't think one could blame Trump for any group extending support to him. Also, a group, no matter whatever ideology it has, might support Trump based on certain policies, which are not related to any type of violence or hatred at all.

For example, we don't have to endorse Adolf Hitler, but do we have any reason to hate VolksWagen?

It's partly the media's portrayal of Trump as racist, pro white and anti immigrant and partly his own fault for gaming the system for votes in the sense that he never condemned the racists as loudly as he should have - "Ok ok I disavow" instead of "Screw that guy, I want nothing to do with him and he needs to stop using my name". Whatever the cause, even if Trump is not racist, these groups THINK that Trump is racist and a Trump administration will support them. They also think that by voting pro Trump, people in this country have also voted for these organizations. Therefore, as @Razor said, all the loonies are crawling out of the woodwork and are emboldened to congregate in the open.

 

[Project Dharma]

Why most people in US is patient of these left liberals..here in india we don't have any thing to kick their asses..but there they have guns to weed out these assholes...

Ugh, because we have the rule of law and freedom of speech here Mister. The point of a democracy is to hear dissenting opinions and then come to a middle ground by compromise.

The problem is that this approach isn't suitable for dealing with Islam which is treated as a religion because it's followers brand it as such whereas it is just a terrorist cult.

"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"

 

[Project Dharma]

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Actually, you just showed why the electoral college system is broken. More people live in the cities but the rural counties can swing an election which means somebody can win the popular vote and lose the election.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Yes, I sidetracked the issue because it was off-topic.

Well can't really help with cognitive dissonance issues.

Whatever. I don't want to waste time defending whatever you wrote. You wrote it, you own it. All you need to know is this:

1. Printing money out of thin air doesn't work.
2. Mathematics is a science and economics is an art.
3. At 20 trillion dollars debt, the school of economics that you subscribe to, is a spectacular success.

My school of economics won't give out doles to be in this position! Try better next time.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

Voting leftwing maks sense for any minority that doesn't have a large business in North America. the right wing and specifically republicans turn us all into scapegoats that we simultaneously are too lazy to work, have poor education yet they contradict themselves and claim we steal their jobs.

I don't feel either western left wingers or western right wingers care aBout indians or aNY south asians or any Asians..left wing just feel like we'd have betterchance of avoiding physical harm and draconian economic laws

I agree about the first paragraph, unfortunately the second one is not true. Just on this forum itself there were many altercations in a span of 48 hours with ABCDs (American Born Confused Desis) tried to sermonize Indians. All the people at the forefront of anti-Indian NGOs, groups, academics (who signed anti-Modi proposals) are all American Indians. There are many more examples of separatist groups, dalit groups and basically all those groups which can be summarily clubbed under the umbrella of AAPtards and there are many in the west. Those academics who supported the lobbying efforts to get India renamed as South Asia in American text books were sold out NRIs. I'd be glad if you REALLY stopped caring about Asians.

 

[AnantS]

USA will keep babying Pakistan that's just common sense for them. Both Democrats and Republicans will do that.

Atleast Republicans will increase military expenditure which will exert tremendous pressure upon china.

Yes they will cut deals with china but chinese market has matured and chinese corporations can beat Americans there not much to gain honestly.
Even apple is struggling in china.

On the contrary Indian market is taking shape right now and competition is not as fierce as china.
They will make more favorable deals with India .

We want them to abandoned Pakistan then we will have to up the game.
Hillary would have been more supportive to Pakistan and against Russia she would have cosied up to china.

We need America to deal with china not Pakistan.

Apple is not popular in India too, and with the inflated price tag that their products come with in India, its an uphill task for Apple to reach Samsung levels.. So until Apple really moves its assembly line here and reduces prices(which it doesnt want to), apple will not have rosy growth as Samsung or other Asian manuf giants. Its an uphill task for them. American cars dont sell well in India. Hence their manufacturers have abandoned plans on expanding existing plants. IT sector is already seeing reduced business from US. The pressure on it is only going to increase more. Republicans are going to twist more India's arm to screw herself in Retail, Pharma , Insurance , Legal, environment etc sectors. US is not going to fight China for India. It wants to use India to extract more China. Remember G-2 is something which US proposed.
So dont expect miracles in Indian US relationships. Be vary, very vary on what India gives away to them.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

I don't give a flying f**k if Hugh Jackman likes him. I will never approve of a vegetarian prime minister and I don't care if anyone else doesn't care because their wrong either way coz if you f*p to modi your opinion is pretty much irrelevant anyway coz you voted for a closet SJW tea seller and maybe you actually need 5000 miles away or whatever to realize how cringey the fact really is.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

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[OrangeFlorian]

NaMo is just the Bernie Sanders of India

Because of course what we need is another fun drunk crazy awesome socialist grandpa


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