I have seen the video posted by you, thanx for posting it. Now please see the following videos, they offer a different version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHtSgXMcqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwmLdL8o6fM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3kgVcB87k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JKxvFTEXM&feature=related
The above videos show the integrity of Ops launched by PA and how the innocent civilian Pashtuns were targetted delibrately. This is the reason for discontentment against PA.
As for TTP, they saw the launching of these Ops(however ineffective or farcical in nature) as a betrayal and vowed vengeance against PA. Thus, they went after PA's assets. Since TTP stronghold is Peshawar, most of the attacks on PA's assets were in and around Peshawar where obviously some Pashtuns died as a collateral damage.
Now you see, PA delibrately targetted Pashtuns to give a feeling to the world that they are doing Ops against the Talibs, the Talibs saw these Ops as betrayal of PA at the behest of US and attacked PA and its assets.
every one has a different version, firstly you said that Peshawar is a strong hold, all right, its the biggest city of NWFP & also a city surrounded by volatile regions & the biggest city near the
Disturbed areas
the security at borders of Provinces & at entry & exit points of Big cities is extremely tight, Most of time they don't get through e.g. Two suicide bomber were intercepted on Motorway which lead to Lahore, Some Uzbeks caught in Sindh etc
so Peshawar becomes a target of Choice
& moreover if you will see the the recent carnge on Peshawar more than 90% of the attacks were carreid out on Civilians, which in no way is 'collateral damage' neither these attacks targeted security apparatus e.g the Meena Bazzar Attack, which is totally a civilian area, This proves that they were out for blood & it didn't mattered for them who's blood it was
At least 101 killed, 150 injured; fire destroys several buildings; many trapped in debris: Peshawar bomb targets women, children
PESHAWAR, Oct 28: At least 101 people, mostly women and children, were killed and over 150 injured when a huge car bomb ripped through a crowded market here on Wednesday.
The blast triggered a huge fire which engulfed a number of buildings near the Meena Bazaar. A plume of dust and smoke billowed from narrow lanes of the market situated in the old part of the city.
A senior intelligence official blamed terrorists based in Darra Adamkhel for the attack. “We intercepted a call last week in which militants were talking about a ‘heart-rending’ attack in Peshawar,” he said.
A representative of the shopkeepers’ association said threats had been received in recent days with militants demanding that women be forbidden from going to the market.
The blast took place in two narrow lanes between Meena Bazaar and Kochi Bazaar frequented by women. A cotton warehouse in the market caught fire which spread to several buildings on the Cheri Koban road. A number of shops along the narrow road, vehicles and carts were gutted.
Most of the bodies were charred beyond recognition and till late night only 25 of them had been identified.
Hospital sources said the death toll could rise because scores of badly burnt and injured people were in a critical condition.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...ris-peshawar-bomb-targets-women,-children-909
Moreover the peace in Swat is only favouring the PA, because it was PA who did it & peace is returning, No Pushtun IDP (whom i met) were against PA's Opeartion in Swat..
Swat people happy with anti-Taliban banners
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Delawar Jan
PESHAWAR: The display of anti-Taliban banners by unknown persons in various areas of Kabal(don't confuse it with Kabul) was the topic of discussion in Swat on Monday and majority of people hailed the move as a sign of an end to the Taliban era.
Kabal residents said on Sunday that they saw anti-Taliban banners calling leader of the Swat militants Maulana Fazlullah a “shameless” person. “Where is the shameless Fazlullah?” was the slogan inscribed on one of the banners. One can infer from the writing on the banner that those having displayed the banners were criticising the Taliban leader for going underground.
Other slogans included, “Taliban’s friend is the nation’s foe,” and “The Taliban movement is virtually the movement of oppressors.”
“Taliban network has been dismantled and their leaders killed or arrested. The supply of money and arms and ammunition to the militants has been stopped and now they are hiding,” PPP-Sherpao Swat President Sher Shah Khan said when asked to comment on the display of anti-Taliban banners.
People said the display of banners had proved the militants had been eliminated from the valley, an impression that would prove a shot in the arm for the government to win the confidence of the Swat people.
At one stage, the distrust between the people and security forces had alienated the people of Swat.
“The militants have been routed and order restored in Swat, and today people feel secure,” said the former nazim of Koza Bandai Union Council Sher Khan. The display of banners in their strongholds left no doubt that Taliban had now become history, he said.
Who has displayed these banners? People in Swat believed the military might have done that. However, Sher Khan said the people would also take such measures to prove that Taliban had no place in the valley.
Restoring peace and arresting and killing some of the top Taliban commanders in a massive military operation launched in May this year, the security forces are yet to track down the most wanted Fazlullah.
Some of his key lieutenants have also managed to remain at large even after six and a half months of the offensive, aimed at driving the militants out of Swat and capturing the top leadership.
The federal ministers and government authorities have stated several times that the Taliban chief in Swat had lost his one or both legs during the operation, but this claim could not be confirmed from independent sources.
“Previously, Taliban were throwing away bodies of people but today their corpses are being plunked,” a resident of Mingora said on condition of anonymity.
A member of Global Peace Council, Ibarahim Dewlai, brother of slain Taliban leader Ali Bakht, said the display of banners was the final nail in Taliban’s coffin.
The residents said it would help remove fear of Taliban from the hearts of people and bury the myth about their power. “In an area where Taliban would behead people for uttering a word of dissent, the display of banners is people’s victory,” Muhammad Yar of Kanju remarked. He said people were now doing their routine work without any fear.
The militants have been unable to launch any attack during the last 75 days, a tremendous success in an area from where several incidents of violence were reported daily.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=208982
Life returns to Pakistan's Swat Valley
I had the rare opportunity to tour the conflict-affected areas by helicopter, where access has been restricted due to security concerns. Flying at treetop level provides an eerie sense of omniscience, looking onto rooftops and into courtyards. The contours of the land, the underlying patterns of villages and roads become clear, especially in the rugged mountains of Swat where the roads snake over passes and along ridges, houses hug the mountainside alongside terraced ridges.
Displaced families are returning to their homes in Pakistan's Swat Valley, months after fleeing a Taliban onslaught. Photo: Reuters/Faisal Mahmood, courtesy of
Reuters AlertNet - Homepage
As we flew yesterday, we passed over a long line of trucks, rickshaws, cars and buses filled with the displaced residents of Swat returning home. The "all clear" has been sounded for all of Buner and most of Swat, the two districts of Pakistan where conflict had pushed out most of the residents in a terrifying exodus — most of them left with minimal possessions, and many of whom walked for several days until they reached either transport or shelter. The elderly and infirmed were often left at home, unable to withstand the journey and taking their chances as the Pakistan military sought to crush the Taliban insurgency once and for all.
Most importantly, traveling with Pakistan country director Steve Claborne, we were able to make a quick aerial assessment of the damage that awaited the returnees. Thousands of people have returned over the last two weeks. Once again, I was struck by the extraordinary resilience of people.
We touched down in Mingora, Swat's largest city, and toured the already-bustling marketplace, perhaps already 30 percent back in business. Open-front shops were selling produce, household goods, flowers and — most interestingly — radios, cassettes and videos, which were banned under the Taliban rule of the last several months. Women were on the streets, after having been forced inside under the Taliban. Laundry flapped in nearly half the houses and children tumbled out to wave at us.
Damage is centered on buildings near the roadside, on the 230 schools destroyed by the Taliban and in the buildings that housed the insurgents. There is rubble; there is damage, but the determination of the people to return from the ferocious heat and hopelessness of the camps is clear. Mercy Corps will focus our return programs on helping people quickly recover and get back to school and work.
Life returns to Pakistan's Swat Valley | Mercy Corps
then recent Take over of Bajur, I have shown you the AL Jazeera Video about it, It is enough source to prove my point, If there would ahve been discontent the Tribal Militas would not have supported PA in its offensive, They want peace & death of militants & that is happening
Lastly, I am really amused that Pakjab theory is amusing to you. BTW, the term Pakjab may be new to you, but the theory is not new(neither is it mine). Infact, this Pakjab theory led to the breaking of your nation in 1971. West Pakistan(bengalis) had greater population in terms of ethinicity than other provinces of Pakistan(including Pakjab). Thus, if democratic process was implemented to elect a leader, the bengalis would have dominated the Pakistan. Obviously, Pakjabis would not let that happen and launched a genocide on Bengalis through PA. This led to a large scale humanity crisis and India was forced to intervene and the rest is history.
Similarly, today PA is attempting a genocide against Balochs. Similarly, in the name of different Ops, Pashtuns' lives are ravaged PA leading to a large scale humanity crisis. Similarly, Sindhis are parched because water share is all used up by Pakjab. Thus, Pakistan's history replete with such examples.
I absolutely agree that East Pakistan was the biggest mistake we did, our leaders were extremely short sighted, 'Operation Search Light' being an example how stupid Generals can get & we literally presented East Pakistan to India in a plate & you grabbed it, but don't use this word 'had to interfere', you supported a Full Time insurgency there
as i mentioned before about the NFC Award, which is actually about distribution of resources among provinces, has been finalized with no province angry at it, you this Pakjab theory goes go down the drain
NFC award
The hammering out of a consensus among the centre and the provinces on the seventh National Finance Commission award is a major achievement and a positive event for those who believe that the future of a vibrant Pakistan lies in a democratic federation.
The seventh NFC has established a number of milestones. For the division of resources among the provinces, the federation has moved away from the unsatisfactory single criterion of population to a multi-criteria award that includes poverty/backwardness, revenue collection and generation, and inverse population density. Moreover, the centre and the provinces have shown a spirit of fair play when addressing Balochistan and the NWFP. Balochistan has been guaranteed a minimum award, with the centre pledging to make up for any shortfall, while in a nod towards the NWFP’s extraordinary burden in the war against militancy, the province has been promised a special one per cent of the undivided federal pool.
The centre too has shown flexibility. The old framework in which subventions, grants and other special awards by the centre took 10 per cent out of the total revenue pool has been dropped and the revenue collection charges pocketed by the centre have been slashed to one per cent. All of this increases transparency and takes some of the sting out of the charge that the centre is short-changing the provinces. Of course, the NFC has not addressed all complaints, and challenges remain in the years ahead. Foremost among the challenges are the revenue and expenditure projections. Finance Minister Shaukat Tarin has said that the tax-to-GDP ratio will be increased to 13.9 per cent over the next five years — it currently hovers around 10 per cent — and that federal expenses will be reduced to 12 per cent of GDP at the end of that period, as compared to the present 14.6 per cent. But hiking tax collection/revenue and slashing expenditure is easier said than done — indeed, every government promises the same but few have been able to deliver.
Nevertheless, while cautioning that the seventh NFC is not a panacea, we are indeed grateful that it appears to be a step in the right direction. In some quarters, such has been the dismay over the current phase in the transition to democracy that people could be forgiven for thinking that perhaps democracy can never work in Pakistan. But the consensus on the seventh NFC award is a sign that, political differences aside, not only do the provinces and the centre want to make democracy work, they in fact can do so when given the time and space to make difficult decisions.
I am not saying that there are NO problems, but don't you exaggerate things, the Elites even exist in ur country as well, which is performing very well economically, but still Farmers are committing suicides & poverty is still there, ever though of that?
but in the end you know I know & you also know that 'comparison of poverty & elites' won't take you & me any where, They are there, the only Thing that matters is how me 'minimize the damage', as for Blaochistan, There is no 'genocide going on', Action will be taken against those who will challenge writ of Gov & 'collateral damage' will happen, Just like it happens every where
‘Aghaze Huqooq-i-Balochistan’ package
ISLAMABAD: All out efforts will be made to bring Balochistan on a par with developed areas of the country, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Monday.
Talking to a delegation from Balochistan which included Governor Nawab Zulfiqar Magsi and Chief Minister Nawab Mohammad Aslam Raisani, he said the government believed in developing consensus on all vital national issues and to this end was working on the Balochistan package, which would address the province’s political, social and economic problems. Federal ministers Makhdoom Amin Fahim, Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, Babar Awan and Syed Khurshid Shah and Senators Raza Rabbani and Mir Lashkari Raeesani, who is also chief of the PPP in Balochistan, also attended the meeting.
The meeting unanimously approved the package’s name: ‘Aghaze Huqooq-i-Balochistan’.
Senator Rabbani, head of the parliamentary committee on Balochistan, gave a briefing on the recommendations incorporated to the package.
He said that the package contained three parts – constitutional, administrative and economic.
The constitutional part, he said, would be looked after by the constitutional reforms committee while administrative and economic side would be taken care of by the prime minister.
It was decided that input of Balochistan lawmakers would be incorporated in the final draft to make the package effective and successful.
The prime minister said that the federal government attached a priority to socio-economic development of Balochistan because it was vital for the country’s progress
It was PA that was desperate to avoid any conflict with TTP even stooping low to make a deal with TTP. But eventually, they were armtwisted by US to act. They conducted a few dog and pony shows. They, perhaps, hoped that 'friendly' TTP would understand. TTP did not understand, moreover, interpretted it as deep betrayal('You too brutus!!). And what followed was TTP's anger against PA. Once PA shifted focus away from TTP, TTP stopped attacking PA. Quid pro quo.
as for water i won't poke my nose into it, for now, as i am really not 'into' this issue
Ha ha...Good twist. Did anyone talked about good taliban or bad taliban? One only talked about those who were pro-PA and those who were ready to 'betray' PA by negotiating and thereby keeping PA out of loop.
From when did we started having 'Moderate Taliban', ain't that similar to Good & bad taliban, No negotiations took place between any High level Taliban Official & ISAF, you think Taliban will negotiate while they know 30,000 more troops are coming to their very own Helmand, you can't talk to them, its like 'kill or be killed' when are you dealing them, You can't keep PA out on loop in Afgh & you know it
but Afgh problem can be certainly solved without India
Thanx for the links and appreciate your patriotic fervour. I am sure you feel you are not an elite and perhaps feel that your position fairly normal. But you should look at the general level of Pakistani population. How many girls in Pakistan are educated? How many of them work? How many of them can afford a computer? How many of them own a internet? Think, and you will know whether you are an elite or not.
I am sure that a baloch girl or a pashtun girl, most probably, would not have these facilites.
their number are increasing will continue to increase so, we don't have a Swat valley on every corner of Pak(which is on the way to peace)
just because you think that girls don't have computer & access to facilities dosen't make any difference, Just look around on Social sites you will see Pakistani Girls literally swarming, its another case that 1 out of 1,00,000 girls is interested in 'forums', but you can still assume me 'elite', doesn't matter, but remember what
Pintu said
I didnt understand why you feel I am 'hurt'(or 'frustrated'). Emoji, I assure you that you have not 'hurt' me or 'frustrated' me. Infact, I am happy to chat with you.
ok, but stop using this 'ji', I know it is used for 'respect' but it certainly is 'odd'