AEROINDIA 2019

[porky_kicker]

Advanced cockpit system from hal

 

[porky_kicker]

LCA MK-2 AESA radar, 11 hard points, IRST (Infrared search & track), 6.5 tons external payload, 17.5 ton MTOW. Smart cockpit.

 

[patriots]

Bhai. ...will lch foc have a radar like apache

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[porky_kicker]

AMCA

 

[porky_kicker]

Bhai. ...will lch foc have a radar like apache

@porky_kicker

I once read a report that DRDO is looking into such a capability , however I have not heard about it since then.

Problem is requirement must come from the users. Once Apache lands the users might get influenced and demand the same from DRDO on lch.

Indian military is lackluster when it comes to new technologies.

They always play copycat rather than be proactive

 

[patriots]

And...whats about bmd....induction...last time it was said to be ready for induction
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[patriots]

I once read a report that DRDO is looking into such a capability , however I have not heard about it since then.

Problem is requirement must come from the users. Once Apache lands the users might get influenced and demand the same from DRDO on lch

Ya .knew that....and I heard that....some of the indian apache will have that radar

 

[porky_kicker]

And...whats about bmd....induction...last time it was said to be ready for induction
@porky_kicker

Operational BMD is still far off as far I can understand.

BMD is a very complex technology

It will take time , though against the 2000 km range ballistic targets , certain capabilities are being set up operationally. Radars especially , other related sub systems will come online progressively in the future. Complete system is still far off from being operational.

Against 5000km targets MRIS ships have to come online for development testing to begin.

Personally I believe India should invest more on offensive systems rather than pure defensive systems.

BMDs cannot guarantee survival , it will be overwhelmed eventually.

But offensive systems will create deterrence through threat of overwhelming vectors.

I want DRDO BMD to be a offensive defence system rather than pure defensive system , by including or leveraging BMD sub systems or it's OODA components to enhance indian offensive vectors or their capabilities.

 

[Archer]

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Finally a real picture of ADTCR and that too incomplete

can't believe nobody bothered to take any pics of it.

And the boat load of crappy pics I had to go through before I found it

This is not ADTCR but Atulya, ADFCR.

 

[Archer]

Operational BMD is still far off as far I can understand.

BMD is a very complex technology

It will take time , though against the 2000 km range ballistic targets , certain capabilities are being set up operationally. Radars especially , other related sub systems will come online progressively in the future. Complete system is still far off from being operational.

No per several credible accounts, fair amount of readiness.

 

[patriots]

Operational BMD is still far off as far I can understand.

BMD is a very complex technology

It will take time , though against the 2000 km range ballistic targets , certain capabilities are being set up operationally. Radars especially , other related sub systems will come online progressively in the future. Complete system is still far off from being operational.

Against 5000km targets MRIS ships have to come online for development testing to begin.

Personally I believe India should invest more on offensive systems rather than pure defensive systems.

BMDs cannot guarantee survival , it will be overwhelmed eventually.

But offensive systems will create deterrence through threat of overwhelming vectors.

I want DRDO BMD to be a offensive defence system rather than pure defensive system , by including or leveraging BMD sub systems or it's OODA components to enhance indian offensive vectors or their capabilities.

I heard that now bmd also capable of shooting down cruise missile s too.....
Is it true....
A pure bmd system is not good as enmy will destroy those system s with cruise missile s..

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I heard that now bmd also capable of shooting down cruise missile s too.....
Is it true....
A pure bmd system is not good as enmy will destroy those system s with cruise missile s..

India's AAD can intercept any kind of missiles near to the terrain and cruise missiles fall in the same category while their speeds are lower than ballistic ones.

We have multiple SAMs like Barak etc. & S400 & QRSAM in near future to act as CIWS systems for interceptiom of target drones, enemy's cruising fixed wing aircrafts & off course, cruise missiles too.

 

[patriots]

India's AAD can intercept any kind of missiles near to the terrain and cruise missiles fall in the same category while their speeds are lower than ballistic ones.

We have multiple SAMs like Barak etc. & S400 & QRSAM in near future to act as CIWS systems for interceptiom of target drones, enemy's cruising fixed wing aircrafts & off course, cruise missiles too.

Ya sry aad
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Are bmd....operational.....

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Ya sry aad
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Are bmd....operational.....

Given the successes we had in last 10 years, yes it will be very much operational.

At least components BMD missiles tested upto 2015 should be operational now.

 

[Archer]

Even the much applauded recent article on Tejas by Indranil & another guy is riddled with inaccuracies!!!

What are the inaccuracies? Are they substantial? Please specify.

 

[Archer]

Well no idea , I believe it still is PESA, changing over to Aesa means a new system literally , and then DRDO would be shouting about it all over.

Correct, PESA.
And DRDO does not talk much about its radars etc. We get limited info via annual reports, releases etc.

 

[Bleh]

Given the successes we had in last 10 years, yes it will be very much operational.

At least components BMD missiles tested upto 2015 should be operational now.

Correct, PESA.
And DRDO does not talk much about its radars etc. We get limited info via annual reports, releases etc.

Operational BMD is still far off as far I can understand.

BMD is a very complex technology

It will take time , though against the 2000 km range ballistic targets , certain capabilities are being set up operationally. Radars especially , other related sub systems will come online progressively in the future. Complete system is still far off from being operational.

Against 5000km targets MRIS ships have to come online for development testing to begin.

Personally I believe India should invest more on offensive systems rather than pure defensive systems.

BMDs cannot guarantee survival , it will be overwhelmed eventually.

But offensive systems will create deterrence through threat of overwhelming vectors.

I want DRDO BMD to be a offensive defence system rather than pure defensive system , by including or leveraging BMD sub systems or it's OODA components to enhance indian offensive vectors or their capabilities.

Is it theoretically possible to launch a geocentric satellite-radar hovering over India, that'll AESA scan whichever area we need within 500 km from our border?

 

[Enquirer]

What are the inaccuracies? Are they substantial? Please specify.

Don't remember all of them at the top of my head....that post of mine was from several weeks ago.

Few that come to mind are his statement that Mk1A would have OBOGS (which is still not flight tested as yet! and could take a long time....). His data in the comparison table had inaccuracies....wing area for M1/1A and Mk2 is given as same...............

 

[Archer]

I thought the wing area was indeed the same in Mk1 to Mk2.. its already pretty high, was there a plan to change it??

Regarding OBOGs, I think they are correct. For instance, we know all the ground tests were completed and the OBOGs handed over for integration around 2015.

Then we also have this from Force (its not PSK so less chances of BS) and the glass cockpit information is also correct from the AI event itself.

http://forceindia.net/cover-story/bag-of-goodies/
The series production batch of the 20 LCA Tejas are being inducted in Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) configuration, the second batch of 20 would be produced in the Final Operation Clearance (FOC) configuration. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is also looking to develop an advanced variant the LCA MK1A with AESA radar and new electronic warfare; HAL has issued RFQ for the same. The variant would also have an Onboard Oxygen Generation System (OBOGS) and improved glass cockpit.

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Don't know about full IPR.
I think the An132 deal will be in the form of a JV with HAL and c295 deal is in partnership with Tata. There is more depth in the An-132 deal as the Ukrainians are a bit desperate and India can leverage this. Also, India operates the An32 which is often referred to as IAF's workhorse so there is the matter of familiarity as well which is in favour of Antonov.

Whats that going to do in the end? TOT with AN-32?? We are already on our way to build a medium lift aircraft.
We need a work horse that is comparable to C130J's. With STOL and a good payload capacity. Capable of quick and rapid troop movements in tricky areas. C295's are close enough