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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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Kunal Biswas

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HAL Records Highest Turnover at Rs. 15,480 Crores; Produces Over 2000 Indigenized Items

Bengaluru, April 2, 2015:

HAL recorded the highest ever turnover of Rs. 15,480 crores (provisional) for the financial year 2014-15 as against Rs. 15,128 crores achieved in FY 2013-14. "Our performance is in line with the MoU signed with the Ministry of Defence and we expect `Excellent' rating for FY 2014-15.
Detailed design, jig fabrication and commissioning have been completed for HAL Basic Turboprop Trainer (HTT-40) and assembly activities have been initiated. Indigenous LCA has so far completed 2871 flights out of which 364 were carried out during 2014-15 for IAF variant. For naval variant of LCA, 43 flights have been completed and 24 flights were done in FY 2014-15. The critical design review for Mirage 2000 upgrade is also completed. Regarding Hindustan Turbo Fan Engine-25 (HTFE-25), detail design of the core engine is completed and assembly tools and required test setup /test bed is under progress. The medium thrust class engine finds wide application in military trainer aircraft, smaller regional jet and unmanned applications.
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Another brigadier enlightening us all about "the fraud " of tejas!!!!

Welcome to Mana MLA's

Our few retired military personnel can't stop making an ass of themselves after retirement!!!!
 

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http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4302/ch2.8.htm


There had been earlier indications that at high supersonic speeds the trailing edge of a minimum-drag airfoil should be blunt rather than sharp. This situation resulted from the fact that the suction losses behind a blunt trailing edge were more than offset by the lower pressure forces on the fore part of the airfoil made possible by the blunting.

At hypersonic speeds the pressure forces on the fore part were predominant and, to minimize these forces, it was necessary to divert the oncoming air as little as possible.

If it was assumed that some thickness of the airfoil was required for strength, minimum flow diversion would be accomplished if the airfoil was in the form of a thin wedge with an absolutely blunt, or bluff, trailing edge. At lower supersonic speeds, where the fore drag was somewhat less important, the trailing edge was rounded down (boat-tailed) a certain amount to reduce base suction drag.

But how much should the airfoil be boat-tailed for any particular speed? This was the nature of the problem which Chapman attacked. His approach, of classic form, began with theory and ended with experiment

. The theory is contained in TR 1063 (ref. B-24) . The confirming experimentation, in which he was aided by William Wimbrow and Robert Kester, is reported in TR 1109 (ref. B-25) .

The study of wing planforms begun so enthusiastically in the early postwar years carried over into the current period; and the results of a large part of this work, performed in several wind tunnels at Ames, are summarized in RM A53A30 entitled "Lift, Drag and Pitching Moment of Low Aspect Ratio Wings," by Charles F. Hall.

This report gives particular attention to airplane configurations having delta, or triangular, wing planforms and likewise considers the matter of twisting and cambering delta wings to reduce the increment of wing drag caused by lift.

As the angle of attack of a wing is increased to produce lift, the resultant force vector tilts backward, thus increasing its component in the drag [204] direction. This additional increment of drag, due to lift, is reduced by any leading-edge suction that may be generated by the wing.

Although theory indicates that a plane wing with leading edges swept within the Mach cone will develop leading-edge suction, in actuality the predicted suction does not appear. It was realized that the higher drag-due-to-lift resulting from this unfortunate circumstance could significantly reduce the performance of supersonic airplanes in climb and cruising and could curtail their range.

In his investigation of this matter, Charlie Hall found that a substantial reduction of drag-due-to-lift could be achieved with a delta-wing airplane if the wing was twisted and suitably cambered throughout its span.

For practical reasons it was desirable, he found, to incorporate the camber only in the forward portion of the wing. In the selected arrangement the cambered part of the wing appears as a segment of a cone varying linearly in extent from zero at the root to a maximum at the tip.

Ames engineers felt that conical camber had the potential for significantly improving the performance of future delta-wing airplanes.


Area Rule. One of the most significant developments of this period was the discovery, by Richard Whitcomb of Langley, of a method, called the Transonic Area Rule, for reducing the transonic drag of aircraft.1 Actually the theoretical basis for the Area Rule had been established a little earlier, but it was not until Whitcomb, using the new transonic tunnel at Langley, made his independent discovery that the significance of the method was fully appreciated.

The Transonic Area Rule expresses the concept that the transonic drag of an airplane is strongly dependent on the distribution of the cross-sectional area of the airplane, including the wing and all other components, and that as far as pressure drag is concerned the airplane could be represented by a body of revolution having the same longitudinal distribution of cross-sectional area as the airplane.

The optimum distribution of area was not precisely determined by Whitcomb, but it was concluded that the area distribution curve should be nicely rounded and free of sharp peaks or humps.

The fuselage of a transonic airplane usually had an area distribution of this kind, but the addition of a wing, an engine nacelle, or a wing-tip fuel tank produced a hump in the area curve which caused the pressure drag of the airplane in the transonic range to rise to a high peak.

Airplanes that designers hoped would be supersonic were thus sometimes limited to sonic speed as a result of unexpectedly high transonic drag.

Whitcomb showed that the hump in the area curve' and thus the high transonic drag, could be eliminated if the added area contributed by the wing was balanced by a deliberate reduction in the cross-sectional area of the fuselage at the wing juncture. The resulting fuselage shape had a constriction like a Coca-Cola bottle, and the terms "coke bottle" or "Marilyn Monroe" fuselage were often heard.
Some interesting points on conical camber and trans sonic drag which could be overcome by whitcomb area rule in the paper above , saw that in BR discussion on tejas.

How flow separation happens at high AOA is beautifully illustrated here.

It is this air flow separation from upper wing surface which reduces lift high AOA.



How camber affects lift is depicted in this diagram,


http://airwarrior.afkamm.co.uk/Aerodynamics/aero5.shtml

F-102's conical camber is explained in very simple terms,



Something about LREX,
. LERX

From the 1960s, Northrop investigated how a sharp-edged Leading- Edge Root Extension (LERX) just ahead of the root of the wing could be made to improve manoeuvrability. The extra surface creates a vortex which improves wing performance by preventing the airflow from breaking away. If the pilot pulls out of a dive, or into a tight turn, the LERX becomes far more powerful. It enables pitch rate and turn radius to be greatly improved, prevents wing rock (uncommanded roll) and maintains the effectiveness of the ailerons. LERX power is roughly proportional to area, and the spanwise position of the vortex is dictated by where the LERX joins the original leading edge.
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4302/ch2.12.htm
 
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B-58 Hustler

The configuration of the B-58 was characterized by a delta wing and the absence of a horizontal tail. The wing had 60° sweepback at the leading edge, an aspect ratio of 2.09, and airfoil sections that varied in thickness ratio from 3.46 percent at the root to 4.08 percent at the tip. Conical camber was employed in the leading edge to reduce drag at lifting conditions and thus increase cruising efficiency.

A conically cambered wing is one which has a leading-edge camber shape formed from part of the surface of a cone whose apex is located at the longitudinal plane of symmetry of the wing. The amount of camber accordingly increases progressively with spanwise distance from the fuselage.

Absence of a horizontal tail for trimming prevented the use of any trailing-edge high-lift devices. Elevons for pitch and roll control extended from the side of the fuselage to the outboard engine nacelles. All the controls were power operated.


In herent aerodynamic design feature of any delta wing platform is the large root chord which results in major shift of center of precssure COP rearwards during acceleration from subsonic to supersonic flight.

As a result the pilot has to apply drag inducing up elevon action to reduce the pitching momentum and trim the aircraft.

Conical camber moves the aerodynamic loads to the rear . So effect of pitch up is reduced .

conical camber improves the performance of delta wings by reducing the need for reflex or up-elevon/elevator.
 
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In aeronautics and aeronautical engineering, camber is the asymmetry between the top and the bottom surfaces of an aerofoil.




An aircraft designer may also reduce the camber of the outboard section of the wings to increase the critical angle of attack (stall angle) at the wing tips. When the wing approaches the stall angle this will ensure that the wing root stalls before the tip, giving the aircraft resistance to spinning and maintaining aileron effectiveness close to the stall
 
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Parrikar takes a dig at A.K Antony at the ceremony of undocking Scorpene submarine.
Published April 6, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE : IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN)

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar recently also took dig at Armed forces for coming up with Ridiculous General Staff Qualitative Requirement (GSQR) for indigenous weapons systems which he said seems right out of " Marvel comic Movies ", clearly hinting that Technologies requested in Indigenous weapons systems sometimes purely is absurd and not realistic in nature . He also has told DRDO not to entertain any last minute changes in GSQR henceforward
I am posting this here for the simple reason that the last paragraph has been an endemic problem with indigenous platforms, be it the Tejas & Arjun!!
 

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Manohar Parrikar, IIT metallurgical engineer is a good find. As a technocrat we can hope that he strikes the right balance between various technological possibilities. And I hope our own hopes are not dashed. Hope he works on the LCA front as he has on the Submarines.
 

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I am little disappointed yet with what Mr. Defence Minister has done. He stopped negotiation with Russians for FGFA, stuck with price issues in MMRCA deal, and ordered a review of Japan's US-2 planes for Navy.
Modi government not have sanctioned more funds for speeding up of LCA MK-2 in this budget and AMCA is still not sanctioned as a full fledged project. What are they waiting for? At last pakistan is taking right decision at right time and able to operate 50 JF17 by now.
I really dont think india lacs funds to support a 2 billion project over a decade.
 

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He is probably in right direction, Unless the DRDO manpower relived from MK1 program, They cannot proceed to MK2 ..

Lets keep this in mind that Tejas is the focus of this thread and its purpose, Lets keep it that way ..
 

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HAL'S OPERATIONS TO BE EXPANDED: DEFENCE MINISTER MANOHAR PARRIKAR

KANPUR: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar today said the operations of the state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) would be expanded to compete with global aerospace and defence equipment manufacturing companies. He inspected the defence equipment manufacturing companies here and discussed with the units' officials the ways to increase quality and quantity of their products.

"We want to expand HAL so that it can take on the global defence equiment manufacturers. We'll be meeting with the company's officials and dicuss with them issues related to technology, quality and production," the minister said.

He said the government would endeavour to give the city - which has five ordnance factories, a HAL unit and an IIT - "the place it deserved in the defence industry".

The Minister said the was no plan to privatize the Kanpur-based defence companies. "The government, rather, was devising ways to improve their efficiency and output."

Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has been asked to collaborate with the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) to conduct joint research programmes to help meet the country's defence needs, he added.

HAL's operations to be expanded: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar - The Economic Times
 

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PROGRESS ON LCA MK.2 COCKPIT CONFIGURATION


The look and feel of the all-glass cockpit that the LCA Tejas Mk.2 will sport is fructifying with the Aeronautical Development Agency announcing that the main display will involve two 6x8 Smart MFDs and one 5x5 smart MFD in centre console "based on the latest and best design technologies currently available in the market".


The ADA is looking for a full solution to its SMFD needs for the LCA Mk.2 program. The capability exists in country, though a competitive process will now ensue. The ADA is looking for active matrix TFT color liquid crystal display SMFDs with separate LED backlight for day and night modes with redundancy for backlighting in both the modes, touch screen capability (will be the first Indian aircraft to sport touch screen panels), anti-reflection coating, full sun readability and night vision capability, compatibility as per NVIS Class B MIL-STD-3009B, EMI protection.

The bezel shall have push buttons, rocker switches and rotary knobs, auto brightness control (ABC) of the display using illumination sensors placed on bezel, capability for windowed image overlay driven by the display processors, dual channel video to support redundant display processors, continuous health monitoring with periodic built-in-test reporting along with its normal operation, provision for operator Initiated Built-In-Test, In-situ programming capability. Conduction Cooled with no external cooling for the entire range of operating temperature.

Progress on LCA Mk.2 cockpit config - SP's MAI
 

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Now Modi/Parikar need to force the LCA issue and make sure 100 are ordered to replace the Mig-21's.
 

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Pleas Help me Out AND tell me How to Post New Thread , and if any one have ans of this question . is India Have Hydrogen bomb and E-bomb.
 

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Now Modi/Parikar need to force the LCA issue and make sure 100 are ordered to replace the Mig-21's.
Pleas Help me Out AND tell me How to Post New Thread , and if any one have ans of this question . is India Have Hydrogen bomb and E-bomb.
 

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Now Modi/Parikar need to force the LCA issue and make sure 100 are ordered to replace the Mig-21's.
bheeshma the number of orders for tejas are surely gonna go beyond 100.
If you are only and specifically talking about Tejas MK1 then 80 will be a good number (double the present order).

and going further with Tejas Mk2 the orders might go upto 150.


We have a large fleet of aircrafts which are gonna retire by 2018-2020 which is going to create a huge gap which can only be filled by Tejas.
FGFA will be coming by 2020 and AMCA after that.

If Tejas MK2 comes by 2018 then there will be no more need of rafale.

Rafale 36 have been ordered if IAF will cry later then 24 more can be ordered to satify then and Mirage being upgraded they wont be needing any more even if they cry ou tloud.
 

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LCA TEJAS - PROGRESS REPORT

The LCA Tejas has completed hot and high & winter trials, including cold soak starting tests of its engine and ensuing flight performance. The success of the January 2015 tests allows the flight team to heave a sigh of relief given that there had been trepidation about full load trials at high altitude.

According to ADA, "With three consecutive start-ups of its engine after overnight soak in extreme cold (around -15ºC) conditions of Ladakh, that too without any external assistance, Tejas, the Indian Light Combat Aircraft has achieved yet another and a rare distinction. Starting the fighter aircraft under such extreme condition without any external assistance or heating is a technology breakthrough.

The requirements become further stringent when the starting is to be done three times consecutively with a partially charged battery. Team LCA led by AERD&C of HAL, and members from ADA, NFTC, IAF, CEMILAC and DGAQA have succeeded in achieving this.

LCA Tejas - SP's MAI
 
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