ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[ersakthivel]

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/553946103184244736/photo/1

Like I had earlier tweeted, DMRL has made significant progress on Single Crystal Blade Technology.

 

[ersakthivel]

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/553946103184244736/photo/1

Like I had earlier tweeted, DMRL has made significant progress on Single Crystal Blade Technology.

 

[Kharavela]

Instead of support GOI should order an enquiry on HAL/DRDO for wasting time + taxpayers money and continuously delaying this , this plane even after 30 yrs is no where in sight and current configuration has serious range , turning radius , radar problems apart from being highly under powered. Its not wrong on IAF part to reject this junk aircraft as pilots and country defenses need best planes not tin cans.
Adding fancy gizmos and composites cannot hide design , range , radar and power problem for this junk.

DRDO needs serious stick on back for several failed projects , kaveri , htt40, ijt, arjun , tejas etc , tax payers money is not for wasting by quota scientists.

You are late with your wish, mate !! UPA govt was kicked out by Indian voters.

#ModiSarkar is determined to encourage indigenous products, weapons & platforms as well as curb prevalent unhealthy practices via import route.

If you have problem with this policy, you are free to undertake actions prescribed by law.

 

[ersakthivel]

Vortex generation on compound delta wing of tejas,

 

[Lone Ranger]

Your highness should know that DRDO has nothing to do with HTT-40.

If you have been reading newspaper reports for the past few months CAG has categorically accused the army of keeping a lower test standard for T-90 while stalling the much better performing Arjun made as per Indian army GSQR to function flawlessly in indian dessert conditions.

And for the past fifteen years HAL has been sounding IAF with various basic trainer models and for mysterious reasons IAF never agreed in principle to pursue any one of those proposals. And go ahead for HTT-40 as given only in 2009 with more stringent ASR, while even more mysteriously 12 of those stringent ASR parameters were diluted for pliatus purchase in 2012 .

Kaveri is a working jet engine in the final lap of development and DRDO has succeeded in producing a single crystal blade production tech better than the one given by Russians for manufacturing AL-31 SCB blade as per recent reports.

And last of all this thread is not about giving big stick to any one,

Of course all the agnis, prithvis, akash, astra, N bomb, Arihant , various IN warships and destroyers, ALH, LCH, pinaka, Nag , K-series sub launched missiles and Nirbhay sprang out of thin air with no contribution from Quota scientists of DRDO!!!

You should read how for the past 10 years DRDO staff strength was kept in a freeze by the previous UPA govt, while the complexity of the projects increased manifold, and how DRDO budget remained stagnant and how even the meager amount allocated for DRDO in the budget was not fully released.

do you know cost comparison between T90 bhisma and arjun mk2

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

IAF Chief Ex IAF chiefs and other senior retired IAF guys apporach

all of them blast LCA as not even equal to Mig21

AND

NAvy Chief exnavy chief

go and give a pat on the back to the NLCA project team on successfull ski jump from STBF


not the difference in the approach should tell you something

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

do you know cost comparison between T90 bhisma and arjun mk2

why dont you give one ?

 

[Kharavela]

IAF Chief Ex IAF chiefs and other senior retired IAF guys apporach

all of them blast LCA as not even equal to Mig21

AND

NAvy Chief exnavy chief

go and give a pat on the back to the NLCA project team on successfull ski jump from STBF


not the difference in the approach should tell you something

The difference is reflected in the status of ongoing projects & acquisition plans by both forces.

IAF is still searching answers for depleted squadron strength while IN is moving ahead with ongoing projects like Aircraft Carrier, Submarines, Destroyers, Frigates, Patrol Vessels etc.

Commitment of IN certainly encouraged LCA (Navy) team for excellence in execution of the project.

 

[ersakthivel]

do you know cost comparison between T90 bhisma and arjun mk2

The scandalous T-90 deal was negotiated leaving out the cost of important elements like gun tech tot, armor tech and active protection system to look so low. If we give such scandalous cost break up even Arjun will appear dirt cheap. T-90 can't function for extended duration in rajasthan desert due to heat build up jamming its electronics is well documented. Strangely the IA has asked DRDO to fix this problem of fitting a suitable AC to T-90 after every one including Russians have backed out of it. And last but not the least safe ammo storage in Arjun avoids ammo cook up from any seep through simple land mine blasts that can happen in T-90 where ammo is littered on the floor. For more info go to Arjun thread in this fourm. Don't waste our time.

 

[Lone Ranger]

The scandalous T-90 deal was negotiated leaving out the cost of important elements like gun tech tot, armor tech and active protection system to look so low. If we give such scandalous cost break up even Arjun will appear dirt cheap. T-90 can't function for extended duration in rajasthan desert due to heat build up jamming its electronics is well documented. Strangely the IA has asked DRDO to fix this problem of fitting a suitable AC to T-90 after every one including Russians have backed out of it. And last but not the least safe ammo storage in Arjun avoids ammo cook up from any seep through simple land mine blasts that can happen in T-90 where ammo is littered on the floor. For more info go to Arjun thread in this fourm. Don't waste our time.

I pity morons who accuse Indian army personals who bite bullet so morons like you sit in your laptop and blog freely , drdo and hal quota scientist have been wasting taxpayers money on junks failed projects like arjun and tejas and that's bottom line , want to believe it or not but truth remains

 

[brahmastra11]

I pity morons who does not understand the context..

No one blaming whole Indian Army personnel, problem is only with few top brass corrupted to the core and killing in house industries for their vested interests..

Let DRDO / HAL etc., first get their due fund properly on time.. Later will investigate about wasting tax payers money..

Morons who cant understand Research & Developments has no right to comment on these organizations.

I pity morons who accuse Indian army personals who bite bullet so morons like you sit in your laptop and blog freely , drdo and hal quota scientist have been wasting taxpayers money on junks failed projects like arjun and tejas and that's bottom line , want to believe it or not but truth remains

 

[ersakthivel]

I pity morons who accuse Indian army personals who bite bullet so morons like you sit in your laptop and blog freely , drdo and hal quota scientist have been wasting taxpayers money on junks failed projects like arjun and tejas and that's bottom line , want to believe it or not but truth remains

I pity even more guys like you who don't even have the basic understanding that the higher echelons of defence forces who make these spurious decisions don't sit under the border fence biting bullets.

All of them are posted by corrupt UPA regime and will retire in an year or two. Don't pretend that you don't know these basic facts. Since when the ordinary tank man of India took decisions on his MBT?

haven't you read CAG report castigating army for setting more diluted standards fro T-90 compared to Arjun? Did the army test T-90 in deserts before giving billions of dollars worth of orders?

If they have done so how come they are asking DRDO to fit Ac into it?

Who was responsible for signing T-90 deal with Russia with out gun tech TOT, active protection system and armour tech? The soldiers biting the bullet sitting under the fence in pak border?These decisions are made in ministry of defence with either no dissent or tacit acceptance or will full participation of top IA and IAF personal.

SO don't show off your concern for man biting the bullet. We are all posting here for the sake of the same man biting the bullet, have no doubt on that account.

It is the same "quota scientist" of DRDO and ISRO and various other scientific labs who have given so many critical import substitutes in the past and will do so in future. Not guys like you , faking the "interest of the man biting the bullet in the border ".

DO you want the man biting the bullet on the border to have the extra protection , extra accuracy on the move fire offered by Arjun and massive number of highly advanced 4.5th gen tejas to come to his support on his day of reckoning or not?

Defence budgets in india are fixed . Nothing wrong in buying cutting edge stuff from abroad. But wasting those precious resources that can give more capability addition if produced here , instead of buying from abroad , which will give reduced capability is simply criminal.

If you are smart enough you should know it was you who dragged this freewheeling DRDO criticism into this thread specifically for tejas. There is another thread called DRDO thread for your views on DRDO products here. You can go there and fill it to your heart's content.

Don't litter here.

 

[ersakthivel]

I pity morons who accuse Indian army personals who bite bullet so morons like you sit in your laptop and blog freely , drdo and hal quota scientist have been wasting taxpayers money on junks failed projects like arjun and tejas and that's bottom line , want to believe it or not but truth remains

I pity even more guys like you who don't even have the basic understanding that the higher echelons of defence forces who make these spurious decisions don't sit under the border fence biting bullets. All of them are posted by corrupt UPA regime and will retire in an year or tow. DOn't pretend that you don't know these basic facts. SInce when the ordinary tank man of india took decisions on his MBT?

haven't you read CAG report castigating army for setting more diluted standards fro T-90 compared to Arjun? Did the army test T-90 in deserts throughly before giving billions of dollars worth of orders?

If they have done so how come they are asking DRDO to fit Ac into it?

Who was responsible for signing T-90 deal with russia with out gun tech TOT, active protection system and armor tech? The soldiers biting the bullet sitting under the fence in pak border?These decisions are made in ministry of defence with either no dissent or tacit acceptance or willful participation of top IA and IAF personal.

SO don't show off your concern for man biting the bullet. We are all posting here for the sake of the same man biting the bullet, have no doubt on that account.

It all started from your post number 3932 on the previous page a stupid post which has no relation to the topic on this thread.

Instead of support GOI should order an enquiry on HAL/DRDO for wasting time + taxpayers money and continuously delaying this , this plane even after 30 yrs is no where in sight and current configuration has serious range , turning radius , radar problems apart from being highly under powered. Its not wrong on IAF part to reject this junk aircraft as pilots and country defenses need best planes not tin cans.
Adding fancy gizmos and composites cannot hide design , range , radar and power problem for this junk.

DRDO needs serious stick on back for several failed projects , kaveri , htt40, ijt, arjun , tejas etc , tax payers money is not for wasting by quota scientists.

There is a dedicated thread for DRDO here. You can offer your "expertise" on DRDO there. There is an army of guys big sticking "quota scientists" of DRDO there.Nobody cares. before calling others morons , know a few basic forum rules. Don't derail a dedicated thread on tejas.

 

[Lone Ranger]

I pity morons who does not understand the context..

No one blaming whole Indian Army personnel, problem is only with few top brass corrupted to the core and killing in house industries for their vested interests..

Let DRDO / HAL etc., first get their due fund properly on time.. Later will investigate about wasting tax payers money..

Morons who cant understand Research & Developments has no right to comment on these organizations.

These so called corrupt top brasses have not emerged from sky they have rose in rank from army system and made their contribution , FYI any procurement decision is not made by top brass alone it has its own processs , you would be wise not to comment before understanding things , publicly accusing indian armed forces on public forums can be a criminal offence and can be used against you,

 

[Lone Ranger]

I pity even more guys like you who don't even have the basic understanding that the higher echelons of defence forces who make these spurious decisions don't sit under the border fence biting bullets. All of them are posted by corrupt UPA regime and will retire in an year or tow. DOn't pretend that you don't know these basic facts. SInce when the ordinary tank man of india took decisions on his MBT?

haven't you read CAG report castigating army for setting more diluted standards fro T-90 compared to Arjun? Did the army test T-90 in deserts throughly before giving billions of dollars worth of orders?

If they have done so how come they are asking DRDO to fit Ac into it?

Who was responsible for signing T-90 deal with russia with out gun tech TOT, active protection system and armor tech? The soldiers biting the bullet sitting under the fence in pak border?These decisions are made in ministry of defence with either no dissent or tacit acceptance or willful participation of top IA and IAF personal.

SO don't show off your concern for man biting the bullet. We are all posting here for the sake of the same man biting the bullet, have no doubt on that account.

It all started from your post number 3932 on the previous page a stupid post which has no relation to the topic on this thread.



There is a dedicated thread for DRDO here. You can offer your "expertise" on DRDO there. There is an army of guys big sticking "quota scientists" of DRDO there.Nobody cares. before calling others morons , know a few basic forum rules. Don't derail a dedicated thread on tejas.

Have u even sat on a tank before in your life ? Just blah blah on forums and better understand this ranting on some stupid forum wont gain you anything and change fact that an over weight over priced tank is unfit to most prospective conflict areas of our nation and yes HAL and drdo has 35% sc/st quota scientist who dont deserve their jobs unlike army personal where no quota is followed for sc/st

 

[ersakthivel]

Have u even sat on a tank before in your life ? Just blah blah on forums and better understand this ranting on some stupid forum wont gain you anything and change fact that an over weight over priced tank is unfit to most prospective conflict areas of our nation and yes HAL and drdo has 35% sc/st quota scientist who dont deserve their jobs unlike army personal where no quota is followed for sc/st

Go to Arjun thread in this forum for discussing tanks, it is not the topic here, Why are you unable to understand such simple rules. there are threads dedicated to topics here , separate one for Arjun and DRDO. You can go to Arjun thread(which is more than 300 pages long ) and explain to us all about how,"over weight over priced tank is unfit to most prospective conflict areas of our nation". Guys there will laugh their ass off!!!!

You don't even have the comprehension to understand that IA changed GSQR four times specifying each and every feature of the tank. may be you have spent your entire lifetime sitting inside the tank to forget such inconvenient truths!!!!

Thats why it was delayed. It is stupid to say it wont meet operational requirements when the indian army past chiefs themselves have extolled its virtue.

This is what Quota scientists did,

India's Mars Orbiter Team Wins US Award

CHENNAI: India's Mars Orbiter programme team has won the 2015 Space Pioneer Award in the science and engineering category from the US based National Space Society (NSS), the society said. In a statement issued in Washington on Monday, the NSS said its 2015 Space Pioneer Award in the science and engineering category has been won by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) Mars Orbiter Programme team. "This award will be presented to an ISRO representative during the National Space Society's 2015 International Space Development Conference, the 34th ISDC, to be held in Toronto, Canada," the statement said.
The conference will run from May 20-24. According to the NSS, India's Mars Orbiter launched Nov 5, 2013 that went into Mars orbit Sep 24, 2014 achieved two significant mission firsts in terms of an Indian spacecraft that has gone into orbit around Mars on the very first try and that no other country has ever done this. Secondly, the spacecraft is in an elliptical orbit with a high apoapsis, and has a high resolution camera which is taking full-disk colour imagery of Mars. Very few full disk images have ever been taken in the past, mostly on approach to the planet, as most imaging is done looking straight down in mapping mode. These images will aid planetary scientists. The Mars Orbiter programme team located in Bangalore is headed by Mylswamy Annadurai, the statement said. The NSS is an independent non- profit educational membership organisation dedicated to the creation of a spacefaring civilization.

India's Mars Orbiter Team Wins US Award.

Go to the appropriate thread to post your views on them. Don't derail this thread.

 

[brahmastra11]

I have all the right to spit on scums who do anti national activity be it anyone including you..

The said process starts from recommendation of the organization who use it..

Stick to Tejas else go to respective thread to rant.

These so called corrupt top brasses have not emerged from sky they have rose in rank from army system and made their contribution , FYI any procurement decision is not made by top brass alone it has its own processs , you would be wise not to comment before understanding things , publicly accusing indian armed forces on public forums can be a criminal offence and can be used against you,

 

[ersakthivel]

These so called corrupt top brasses have not emerged from sky they have rose in rank from army system and made their contribution , FYI any procurement decision is not made by top brass alone it has its own processs , you would be wise not to comment before understanding things , publicly accusing indian armed forces on public forums can be a criminal offence and can be used against you,

SO you are super cop now. Please tell me if publicly accusing DRDO is good for the country or a paying profession for you?

Once again. this is not a thread about,warning people about " publicly accusing indian armed forces on public forums can be a criminal offence and can be used against you".

Do you have the sense to understand that? It is being said fourth or fifth time.

Go to the appropriate thread, quote any one of us and take the discussion there. No one will bother you.

if you have nothing to contribute to tejas thread, why are you ranting here?

 

[Kharavela]

I pity even more guys like you who don't even have the basic understanding that the higher echelons of defence forces who make these spurious decisions don't sit under the border fence biting bullets.

All of them are posted by corrupt UPA regime and will retire in an year or two. Don't pretend that you don't know these basic facts. Since when the ordinary tank man of India took decisions on his MBT?

haven't you read CAG report castigating army for setting more diluted standards fro T-90 compared to Arjun? Did the army test T-90 in deserts before giving billions of dollars worth of orders?

If they have done so how come they are asking DRDO to fit Ac into it?

Who was responsible for signing T-90 deal with Russia with out gun tech TOT, active protection system and armour tech? The soldiers biting the bullet sitting under the fence in pak border?These decisions are made in ministry of defence with either no dissent or tacit acceptance or will full participation of top IA and IAF personal.

SO don't show off your concern for man biting the bullet. We are all posting here for the sake of the same man biting the bullet, have no doubt on that account.

It is the same "quota scientist" of DRDO and ISRO and various other scientific labs who have given so many critical import substitutes in the past and will do so in future. Not guys like you , faking the "interest of the man biting the bullet in the border ".

DO you want the man biting the bullet on the border to have the extra protection , extra accuracy on the move fire offered by Arjun and massive number of highly advanced 4.5th gen tejas to come to his support on his day of reckoning or not?

Defence budgets in india are fixed . Nothing wrong in buying cutting edge stuff from abroad. But wasting those precious resources that can give more capability addition if produced here , instead of buying from abroad , which will give reduced capability is simply criminal.

If you are smart enough you should know it was you who dragged this freewheeling DRDO criticism into this thread specifically for tejas. There is another thread called DRDO thread for your views on DRDO products here. You can go there and fill it to your heart's content.

Don't litter here.

I really appreciate your patience, explaining again & again, to those retards & morons who never read the thread completely for understanding capabilities of LCA.

Moreover, I found myself at loss of word, when an idiot reiterates his ignorance, despite being explained for maximum possible duration.

 

[rahulrds1]

source :abingdonboy: HAL Naval Light Combat Aircraft... - The Sponge