ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Kunal Biswas]

Originally Debry and Python are meant for Navy ..

Air-force will be using debry until Astra shows up, Astra & R-73 is the combo of Air-force ..

R-73 may get replaced by Astra short range Missile..

Derby has been selected for Tejas due to the radar being a hybrid El-2032 radar and pretty soon R-73 would be supplanted by Python-5 till short ranged version of Astra comes out.

 

[p2prada]

We have ordered 100 Derbys for the LCA. For LCA Mk1, we will use Derby and R-73. For LCA Mk2 we will use Astra Mk1, Derby and Python V.

Yes , That is what i tried to convey @Twinblade . The ADA guys could have meant R 73 when they are talking about missiles but not Derby at this point of time.

Yes. BVR tests are meant for FOC, not IOC.

@Twinblade

Su-30 uses R-27 as well.

 

[Sridhar]

Derby has been selected for Tejas due to the radar being a hybrid El-2032 radar and pretty soon R-73 would be supplanted by Python-5 till short ranged version of Astra comes out.

The Radar may be a Hybrid of EL- 2052. IIRC , There was a tender to redesign the radome.

The LCA will also carry the EL/M-2052 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar developed by IAI Elta. Originally, the EL/M-2032 was selected but the new 2052 now available with a more compact antenna is best designed to fit the nose cones of LCA and Jaguar, offering enhanced capabilities for both fighters

Advanced Systems Improve Tejas' Fighting Skills - Defense Update - Military Technology & Defense News

 

[rvjpheonix]

@Kunal Biswas sir is it true that the tejas gets elta 2052? Isn't it a aesa radar? What is its range?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It is offered and Tejas MK2 may have those, For MK1 the DRDO radar is fitted..

In future as upgrade to MK1 this radar can be used..

@Kunal Biswas sir is it true that the tejas gets elta 2052? Isn't it a aesa radar? What is its range?

 

[SilentKiller]

well...right now i am just waiting for 1 golden moment, when IAF finally accepts LCA and replaces all Mig 21's with LCA..
so any more updates on its status?
For me its the best plane after Su-30MKI we can produce right now!!

 

[p2prada]

well...right now i am just waiting for 1 golden moment, when IAF finally accepts LCA and replaces all Mig 21's with LCA..
so any more updates on its status?
For me its the best plane after Su-30MKI we can produce right now!!

LCA would be the only other plane we produce apart from MKI.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

By now we should have been producing these in Hundreds, anyways ..

Better late than Never ..

For me its the best plane after Su-30MKI we can produce right now!!

 

[rohit b3]

It is offered and Tejas MK2 may have those, For MK1 the DRDO radar is fitted..

In future as upgrade to MK1 this radar can be used..

And what about DRDO's AESA radar under developement for Tejas?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It is based on 2052 ..

I think its in prototype phase, More information is on Tejas MK2 thread ..

And what about DRDO's AESA radar under developement for Tejas?

 

[arnabmit]

Tejas weapon trials at Jamnagar | idrw.org

Towards achieving initial operational clearance (IOC-II) by the end of this year, the LCA Tejas was deployed last month to Jamnagar Air Force Station for weapons trials, which included missile firing and release of bombs. The trials were successfully completed. More rounds of weapons release trials will be conducted both at Jamnagar and Goa shortly.

Defence Minister A.K. Antony recently informed Parliament that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) had been told to strictly follow timelines, giving a clear indication that the MoD and IAF would not tolerate any further slippages in delivery dates for squadron service, slated for 2015.

The Jamnagar trials comes shortly after the deployment of the Tejas in the Iron Fist exercise earlier this year, though it was not in combat mode there. Several parameters still need to be cleared on the Tejas before it achieves IOC-II, including all-weather clearance, lightning clearance and other test points.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Developing a more Indian defence

On the LCA project

The LCA is going well. We said the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) 2 will be completed by this year end. IOC 2 is progressing very well and in spite of bad weather a number of sorties have taken place. HAL team is working well along with the Air Force and a very well integrated operation is going on. We are very confident that IOC 2 will be completed on time. The Final Operational Clearance is slated for 2014-end. Meanwhile, production will start from this year onwards and we expect that the first aircraft will roll out in 2014. Right now, we have orders from the Indian Air Force for 40, in 20-plus-20 option. The naval version of LCA is also going on well, Prototype Version (PV) 1 and PV2 are getting integrated, and PV1 should be completed by this year end.

On the project's cost overrun

The cost of LCA is a small fraction of what an F-15 costs. We have developed one of the lowest costing aircraft. We are confident that the LCA will be able to compete very well in performance as well as on cost basis with equivalent aircraft. It will be comparable to Gripen aircraft. The day we start thinking about LCA, you cannot start putting cost on it.

Source : :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

 

[ersakthivel]

On the LCA project

The LCA is going well. We said the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) 2 will be completed by this year end. IOC 2 is progressing very well and in spite of bad weather a number of sorties have taken place. HAL team is working well along with the Air Force and a very well integrated operation is going on. We are very confident that IOC 2 will be completed on time. The Final Operational Clearance is slated for 2014-end. Meanwhile, production will start from this year onwards and we expect that the first aircraft will roll out in 2014. Right now, we have orders from the Indian Air Force for 40, in 20-plus-20 option. The naval version of LCA is also going on well, Prototype Version (PV) 1 and PV2 are getting integrated, and PV1 should be completed by this year end.

On the project's cost overrun

The cost of LCA is a small fraction of what an F-15 costs. We have developed one of the lowest costing aircraft. We are confident that the LCA will be able to compete very well in performance as well as on cost basis with equivalent aircraft. It will be comparable to Gripen aircraft. The day we start thinking about LCA, you cannot start putting cost on it.

So coming from the horses mouth it should silence a lot of naysayers repeatedly saying,
1. that LCA is inferior to anything that flies from MIG-21 upgraded to Grippen,
2.And MK-1 is just an underpowered tech demo(In reality Mk-1 has a much higher TWR and much lower wing loading than the Mirage-2000)

and many people who are hell bent upon saving IAF from tejas can rest assured,

that ADA is not saddling IAF(Half of whose fleet is filled with most of the crash prone fighters of the world),

with a dubious obsolete tech demo,

but a very reliable, safe, RSS-Fly by wire, low RCS fighter, comparable in aerodynamic design to the other best fighters of the 4.5th gen world

By replacing MIG-21s,23s ,27s, and Jags with a top of the line fighter like Tejas ,

IAF will have a much better pilots trained on top of the line 4.5th gen at their entry level ,

eliminating many risks to their lives by retiring the the dubious safety record Mig series.

which is an immeasurable plus for IAF.And it will also give the indian aeronautic industry the first export dollar earner as well.

 

[rvjpheonix]

Developing a more Indian defence

Source : :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

So the 40 lca's isn't a definite order. They might order more!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

40 conform MK1 orders, 20 more after 40 delivered ..

Another 20 more as a option ..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Dark Knight >>

:cool2:

 

[rohit b3]

40 conform MK1 orders, 20 more after 40 delivered ..

Another 20 more as a option ..

You mean, 20 more after the confirmed 40 SP aircrafts? Orders for Tejas mk1 could go to 60?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Yes, 60 and another more 20 as a option ..

In total 80 can be ordered, At the moment its looks 60 conform..

You mean, 20 more after the confirmed 40 SP aircrafts? Orders for Tejas mk1 could go to 60?

 

[dealwithit]

Initial 20 will be manufactured after IOC-2 by the time of FOC other 20 to 40 can be ordered.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Tejas ..