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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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Stealth version of India's LCA Tejas Mk3 on the cards!!!

India's indigenously developed supersonic fighter aircraft to be developed into a stealth platform.

Dr. V.K Saraswat, presently the Scientific Advisor to India's Defence Minister, delivered a keynote address at the recently held Aerospace Forum in Sweden that concluded on the 3 rd of June, this year. Titled, 'Vision for India's Future Aerospace and Defence', he spoke of some of big ticket Aerospace development projects currently underway or are to commence shortly.

Among these would be a programme to integrate technologies developed as part of India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] programme into the Light Combat Aircraft [LCA], Tejas. This variant would be identified as Mark III.

"Many of these technologies could also find their way into the Light Combat Aircraft Mk. 3 that is to be more stealthy than the current Mk. 2 version, which is due to fly in the next two years with the General Electric F414 engine and be ready for operational trials in 2016. The Mk. 3 is to have up to 70% composite content, almost double the current version's level, and could be powered by India's Kaveri turbofan, if that troubled program gets back on track."

Considering this aircraft was not developed from the outset to be stealthy, the final outcome of this particular venture would, therefore, be more of having improved the aircraft to exhibit greater reduction in its Radar Cross-Section [RCS] than its previous iterations [Mk. I & II]. Having a small-sized airframe [smallest for its class], inherently gives it a fair degree of that advantage even now. Add to it reduced metallic surfaces by replacing it with increased composites, and you should have a fine aircraft whose chances of detection on the radar would be that much closer to those aircraft, bigger in size, that are touted as truly stealth fighters. For an aircraft that is not to be the frontline fighter of the Indian Air Force, this development should be a welcome gain.

The Defence Research & Development Organisation [DRDO], on the back of its present Airborne Early Warning & Control System [AEW&CS] development programme, that now appears to be looking up, is to initiate a program to build a more powerful platform capable of detecting fifth generation stealth aircraft & unmanned flying systems. This project gains significance in light of development of fifth generation fighters in the neighbourhood, that should likely enter service by the end of this decade, along with increasing adoption of unmanned aerial systems by armed forces the world over.

At the same time, the country is exploring ways to better detect stealth aircraft. Detecting low-observable aircraft is a key element of the Indian 2020 airborne early warning and control development effort, a program likely to start in late 2014. It will be based on a yet-to-be selected widebody. This initiative follows the current Embraer EMB-145-based airborne early warning program featuring an Indian-developed, 240-deg field-of-view radar. The first of the modified regional jets is due for delivery to India in August, with radar integration to start in October.

The new system will feature a rotodome radar and be integrated with unmanned aircraft and aerostats to allow bi-static radar operations to detect stealth aircraft, says Vijay Kumar Saraswat, scientific adviser to the director general of the Indian Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO). The distributed transmitter and receiver approach should also aid in detecting small targets, such as unmanned aircraft, and provide extended-range detection, Saraswat recently told the Aerospace Forum Sweden 2012.

Dr. Saraswat's talk has been summarised in an article that appears in the latest issue of the Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine. You could read the full article below.

Another article that details the talk given by Dr Saraswat, 'Aerospace Forum Sweden 2012: India invests heavily in unmanned technologies'

Stealth version of India's Light Combat Aircraft [LCA] Tejas, Mk. 3 on the cards - AA Me, IN
 

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Re: Stealth version of India's Light Combat Aircraft [LCA] Tejas, Mk. 3 on the cards!

I dont think it will be a Stealth version.
It will be something like F-18 Super Hornet with minimal frontal RCS and additional RAM coating and may be stealthy weapon pods.
 

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I dont think it will be a Stealth version.
It will be something like F-18 Super Hornet with minimal frontal RCS and additional RAM coating and may be stealthy weapon pods.
Dk do you mean like this

 

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Re: Stealth version of India's Light Combat Aircraft [LCA] Tejas, Mk. 3 on the cards!

Excellent update.If this technology or plan will be execute then it will be very helpful for us to develop our own large indigenous fighterplane units which will end our dependence on foreign technology or fighter planes.
 

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Excellent update.If this technology or plan will be execute then it will be very helpful for us to develop our own large indigenous fighterplane units which will end our dependence on foreign technology or fighter planes.
LCA MK-III will not come up until PAKFA/FGFA as due to Tech transfer....
 

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PAKFA's technology will not find place in Mk3. PAKFA's progress has nothing to do with LCA. LCA Mk3s progress is entirely dependent on LCA Mk2.
 

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PAKFA's technology will not find place in Mk3. PAKFA's progress has nothing to do with LCA. LCA Mk3s progress is entirely dependent on LCA Mk2.
atleast some stealth experiance is needed for building a stealth jet!!!!!
 

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Re: Stealth version of India's Light Combat Aircraft [LCA] Tejas, Mk. 3 on the cards!

tejas has now become a toy for them. they try to play with it in all possible manner
 

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atleast some stealth experiance is needed for building a stealth jet!!!!!
The ones working on AMCA and LCA will have to depend on the work experience of other countries other than depending on their own expertise.

PAKFA program scientists in HAL and Sukhoi will be too busy to come to ADA and help them out. ADA will do this on their own. Nothing on PAKFA will help LCA either.

Let's not forget two things, One is that AMCA will be developed and tested before LCA Mk3. Two, IAF never asked for a Mk3, so we can say this will be for less demanding export customers who may be looking for a pre-5th gen aircraft.
 

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Re: Stealth version of India's Light Combat Aircraft [LCA] Tejas, Mk. 3 on the cards!

LCA program will be boosted by SAAB in future..




Wont be surprise if it turns out something like this without canard & modified intakes..
 

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Tejas fighter jet won't be combat-ready before 2015

NEW DELHI: At a time when the US is fast-developing hypersonic bombers capable of flying at 20 times the speed of sound, India's largely home-grown Tejas light combat aircraft will "not be ready to go to war" anytime before 2015.

The latest assessment of Tejas, which has now clocked close to 2,000 flights in its almost three-decade-long developmental saga, holds the light-weight fighter will be capable of firing guns, rockets and BVR (beyond visual range) missiles as well as air-to-air refuelling only by 2015 at the earliest, say defence ministry sources.

That is when the single-engine Tejas will become fully combat-ready after getting the final operational clearance (FOC). The review suggests that the fighter is again headed to miss a deadline in its convoluted tale that began in 1983 as an endeavour to replace the ageing MiG-21s.

So far, Tejas has achieved only initial operational clearance-I (IOC-I) to certify it's airworthiness. "The IOC-II for the fighter, which also includes integration of some weapons like laser-guided bombs, was pushed back to December 2012. But now, it will only be possible by July, 2013, or so after over 200 more sorties. FOC will come only two years after that," said a source.

India will eventually spend over Rs 25,000 crore in the entire Tejas programme, including the naval variant and trainer as well as the failed Kaveri engine, as earlier reported by TOI. But more than the cost, it's the time taken to develop a fully-tested, weapons-ready fighter that underlines how critical defence projects should not be run.

While it is true that developing a supersonic fly-by-wire fighter from scratch was never going to be easy, the entire project could have been managed much better. IAF, on its part, is supporting the fighter programme since it knows the country's need to have indigenous weapon systems is strategically critical.

Plans are underway to upgrade the Sulur airbase in Tamil Nadu, which will house the initial Tejas squadrons inducted in the IOC-II configuration, at a cost of Rs 524 crore. While the first 20 Tejas will be powered by the American GE-404 engines, the next six Mark-II squadrons (16-18 jets in each) will have the more powerful GE F-414 engines. The $822-million deal for 99 GE F-414 engines is likely to be inked soon, with additional engines being ordered at a later stage.

The number of fighter squadrons in IAF will further dip to 31 over the next three to four years with phasing out of the aging MiG variants, further impacting IAF's combat capabilities, before it slowly begins to pick up with new inductions. Projections show IAF will have the required 45 squadrons only by 2032.
Tejas fighter jet won't be combat-ready before 2015 - The Times of India
 

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hypersonic bombers 20 times the speed of sound ... :frusty: TOI strikes again
 
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