2016 India–Pakistan military confrontation

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By the way Nand Singh the 1st victim of Paki Barbarism. He was a VC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nand_Singh

The Pakistanis recognised Singh because of his VC ribbon. His body was taken Muzaffarabad where it was tied spreadeagled on a truck and paraded through the city with a loudspeaker proclaiming that this would be the fate of every Indian VC. The soldier’s body was later thrown into a garbage dump, and was never recovered
Nand Singh is Amar and is solely Indian. He choose to go through it. Proof around the world. Only a cheers will greet him once I pass it into the fire.
 

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:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Useless, cuckolded again. Let's bury our heads in the sand and die.
Our army is never going to announce any barbaric mutilation that they might inflict upon paki.
And paki will never acknowledge it.

Of course our response officially will always be "conventional".
 

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Our army is never going to announce any barbaric mutilation that they might inflict upon paki.
And paki will never acknowledge it.

Of course our response officially will always be "conventional".
Conventional matlab arty strikes like before. Pandora was saying keep an eye on the skies but then general got cold feet
 

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Pakis being Pakis - always were and always will be.
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Most Pak army officers support jihad against India: Ex-envoy’s book

Updated: Mar 18, 2016 19:29 IST


http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...-number-one/story-95I33fMkLTeuQneEYiQwUN.html

Most officers of the Pakistan Army still view India as “Enemy Number One” and consider jihad or asymmetric warfare as a weapon of choice, according to a book by former Pakistani envoy Husain Haqqani.

There is also a widespread view among Pakistan Army officers that “terrorism in Pakistan is sponsored by India and the United States” and the officer corps “suspects that the goal of foreign-sponsored Jihadi terrorism is to cause Pakistan’s implosion in an effort to denuclearise it”.

These were among the key findings of a survey of National Strategy Papers written at the National Defence University in Islamabad during 2007-2012 and an examination of the last decade’s army “Green Book”, Haqqani writes in an updated version of his book “Pakistan: Between Mosque and Military”.

The Green Book is an internal publication of the army with essays by serving and retired officers that reflects the military’s overall strategy and objectives.

“Any civilian offering an alternative view is liable to be looked upon with suspicion by the men in uniform,” writes Haqqani, who was forced to leave Pakistan and move to the US after he was accused of being behind a secret memo seeking American help to prevent a possible coup in 2011.

In many ways, these findings reflect the Pakistan Army’s long-standing animosity towards India and its close links with groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed that have been responsible for assaults such as the 2008 Mumbai attacks and the January 2 strike on Pathankot airbase.

The book, originally published in 2005 and updated to reflect subsequent developments, notes that former army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani had, during an interaction with media in 2010, said that the force “remains an India-centric institution” and this status would not change “until the Kashmir issue and water disputes were resolved”.

Haqqani writes that a Taliban massacre at an army-run school in Peshawar in December 2014 – during which more than 130 children were killed - had “generated the expectation of a turnaround in Pakistan’s military strategic thinking”.

People believed army chief Gen Raheel Sharif – a general “known to believe that Talibanisation was not in Pakistan’s interest” – would expand a military offensive against militants in North Waziristan to cover all possible terrorist safe havens, Haqqani writes.

This never happened. Haqqani writes Gen Sharif was “likely constrained by his own institution more than any other factor”.

Pakistan’s “Jihadi infrastructure”, he writes, grew out of a “carefully nurtured national narrative and state ideology” and advocates of modern secular values were denigrated as “enemies of the ideology of Pakistan”.

“This ideological milieu has helped religious-political groups exercise a greater influence on the national discourse than is justified by either the size of their membership or the number of votes they have obtained in Pakistan’s sporadic general elections,” he adds.

If Pakistan’s nationalism is defined “solely in religious terms and the state rhetoric does not change”, Gen Sharif’s efforts against jihadis will “prove as ineffective as similar juggling attempts under” his predecessors, Kayani and Gen Pervez Musharraf, Haqqani writes.
 

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Friends I can't tell you but the most shameful part was we means jernails gave havala of inadequate preparation and needed ammunition.
paanwala was furious...
 

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Friends I can't tell you but the most shameful part was we means jernails gave havala of inadequate preparation and needed ammunition.
paanwala was furious...
There was a warning tweet about heavy retribution. I don't think this is the final plan. Most likely we will continue with art for now, something else is being prepared for right time
 

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Friends I can't tell you but the most shameful part was we means jernails gave havala of inadequate preparation and needed ammunition.
paanwala was furious...
The impact of inadequate retribution would be many more attacks like this, not in far away future but in near future.

I really don't understand how much time do we need to prepare. Since 26/11 hearing that we don't have enough ammo. How much time do the ordinance factories need?

The retribution has to be completely disproportionate. Ok conventional, understood. Then why can't we bring in the Bofors Guns and put on fire anything between 5-10 kms from LOC into Bakisthan
 

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Dalbir Singh goes on a 4 day trip to China and our generals develop cold feet in homeland.
 

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There is no retribution coming only some shelling, firing on Paki post and Randi Rona about economy, covert war and inadequate ammunition.
 

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These sick fucks...



Generals need to nut up or strip off their uniforms and dance in Heera Mandi.
CAD is involved and it is involved since day 1. And most probably the houses of locals are been now occupied by SSG units in civil dress.

If they are hit.. they will blame India of death of civilian( who are in actual regular paki soldiers)
 

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Or they are waiting for the right time? Maybe after 29th Nov?
Well!! I think Indian retaliation has nothing to do with raheel sheriffs retirement.

raheel shariff wants to escalate the war on LoC..may be to get an extension...but the fact is if he retires and India strikes at LoC that would make him look like a hero anyway..as if India was waiting for shariff to retire to strike.

The point is India has done a surgical strike inside pakistan while shariff was already in charge..so that means one thing it has nothing to do with WHO is in control of pak army.

India could be waiting for some strategic advantages as we all know that India can strike them whenever we can...so mostly its that Indian army is waiting for some real strategic depth ..

IMO..it wont be a skrimish this time or just another war..but a decisive war where all scores and revenges will be settled with pakistan forever.

Interestingly...inside pakistan nawaz and raheel is having a difference of opinion on who should be the next army chief..
Thats interesting too :popcorn:
 

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How do these PDF noobs know so much about ops taking place at LoC.....even the vids hammer head showed were old and not of present situation
 

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