Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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  1. Vijyes

    Vijyes Senior Member Senior Member

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    Yes we are developing rapidly. I am only saying why we don't have indigenisation in high level for IAF but we have high indigenisation for navy & army. The reason being relatively higher Technology in IAF.

    PS - Helicopter carrier is a piece of shit. It is an insult to aircraft carriers to consider helicopter carrier as an aircraft carrier even if it has F35C type VTOL planes.
     
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  2. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    No not at all. Where does DPP or amendments say so ?
    And where is the existing technology of NUH ?
    Flying of Kamarpatta?? or On INS Magar ??
    OR HAL lab ??

    The technology does not exist until it is operational and proven.???
     
  3. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Kamov and HAL joint venture is not under "Strategic Partnership Model"....

    "The project will be implemented on the basis of an inter-governmental agreement, under which the Russian side has taken the obligation to transfer technology and achievement of the highest possible level of localisation in the customer's country,"


    //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/61891706.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
     
  4. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    There was are requirement to replace IAF, IA, IN and ICG chetak and cheetah.
    Kamov 22T was chosen as one of the platform for an order of about 200 aircrafts under LUH category.
    A govt to Govt agreement to manufacure 140 of those in india was signed and HAL hoodwinked others to emerge as Joint parner.

    Now there is need to procure NUH. Some of the tasks of NUH were being performed by chetak and cheetah. But Navy wants a 5 ton machine which can perform all tasks of NUH. GoI has decided that this requirement of 111 NUH is to be met Under "Strategic Partnership Model"....

    Two OEMs have responded and Kamov -HAL has also responded.
    The point is HAL is not eligible under "Strategic Partnership Model"..
    Period.
     
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  5. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    That means both for HAL...
    You think everyone is fool..:pound::pound::pound::pound:
     
  6. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Unlikely.
    Kamovs joint venture company in India is owned by HAL and HAL is not allowed.
    I believe Kamov 226T had also problems of folding rotors.

    “The ship-based configuration of Kamov-226T helicopter has already been developed and successfully operated in Russia for special purpose aviation since 2017,” said an official Russian Helicopters release at Defexpo 2018.

    The Kamov-226T has received certification for its “folding blade system”, for operating at ambient temperatures of over 50 degrees Centigrade, and for medical evacuation use, said Russian Helicopters."

    https://www.business-standard.com/a...ne-kamov-226t-helicopters-118041400043_1.html


    However it is other technologies such as Radars, sensors, sonars, torpedos etc which will clinch the issus.
     
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  7. IndianHawk

    IndianHawk Senior Member Senior Member

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    Naval dhruv pics are all over this thread.
    You do realise to be operational and proven the home country of developer provides funding and orders without competition.

    How did kamov 226 or all these other you posted became operational and proven?

    Were they subjected to international competition before there first batch were ordered??

    You just proved my point. You won't allow funding for a promising platform and then will hue and cry about lack of "proven" product.

    Jesus wept!

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  8. IndianHawk

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    Don't HAL and Russia know that? Can't their professional read the rules? Is everyone idiot? Or maybe just maybe you're being dillusionnal.

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  9. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Operational by photoshop ??
    You are too cute ................/////////:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:
     
  10. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Everyone knows it.
    That is why I am afraid of. If the issue goes to the court then it will be a delay of many years !
    And it will go to court because Mahindra Defence, TATA Systems, Reliance etc have put in considerable money in developing infrastructure to qualify for "Strategic Partners ...".
    Your HAL wants to put a break to Indian private Industry developing some balls.#
    HALs activities will go against the spirit of "Make in India"...
    HAL is emerging as a political organisation. Remember St Roul shouting "Modi ne paise Ambani ki jeb men dal diye ......" this way soon Naxalites may take over HAL....

    HAL has already been gifted an order of about 200 Kamov 226T subsequent to Govt to Govt deal with Russia. HAL has got its handful on ALH orders and LUH orders. HAL should pay attention to Tejas production.
     
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  11. patriots

    patriots Defense lover Senior Member

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    Another comedy.... How reliance and tata developed infrastructure without even wining a contract, moreover under SP the infrastructure is built by the jv with near equal participation(51: 49)....
     
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    VAdm AK Jain FOCinC(E) spends a 'Day at Sea' onboard Eastern Fleet ships. Besides being briefed by RAdm Suraj Berry Fleet Cdr onboard his Flag Ship INS Sahyadri, he witnessed weapon firings on surface & aerial targets and other Seamanship evolutions undertaken by Fleet units 1/2
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    The FOC-in-C (E) also addressed the Officers & Sailors of the Eastern Fleet and interacted with the crew of #INSSahyadri during Barakhana 2/2[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    When Indian MiGs And French Rafales Bombed A Tiny Island Off Karnataka

    NEW DELHI:

    On May 9, sixteen fighter jets, including eight Indian Navy MiG-29Ks and 8 French Rafale-M jets "clashed" over the Arabian Sea off the coast of Karnataka.

    The fighters, which were split into two groups of eight each, had their job cut out. One element, designated the strike force, would attempt to hit a small island near Karwar with rockets, bombs and guns while a defensive force of eight MiG and Rafales would attempt to intercept them at beyond visual ranges before they could fire their weapons.

    Controlling each element was an airborne early warning aircraft, an E2-D, deployed off the French nuclear powered aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle and an Indian Navy Kamov Ka-31 helicopter which took off from the deck of India's aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya.

    Both warships, the de Gaulle and the Vikramaditya were at the centre of the bilateral Varuna Naval exercises, which saw the largest and most sophisticated deployment of Indian and French naval assets ever in the Indian Ocean featuring carriers, nuclear and conventional submarines, destroyers, frigates and support ships. Varuna 2019, which began with air combat exercises off the Karnataka coast, ended up with submarine warfare exercises off the Horn of Africa where the French Navy has a base.


    Senior Navy officers who NDTV spoke to have said the air combat exercises added ''exceptional training value'' with the attack on the small island off Karwar being one of the highlights. The exercise culminated with the fighters of both sides proceeding to hit targets along the cliff face of the island.

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    French Navy Rafale-M fighters along with Indian Navy MiG-29Ks in close formation during the Varuna exercises

    Key to working together was developing common communication protocols meant to ensure that French and Indian Naval aviators can operate together during a conflict. However, basic operational differences remain. The electronic data-link onboard the Indian Navy's MiG-29K is not compatible with what the French Rafales operate. As a result all tactical communications (information sharing) between the French and Indian jets were done through verbal communications on radio. Indian Navy officers have told NDTV that the gunnery exercises themselves were very successful with both sides accurately hitting their targets.

    Navy officers did not share details of the air to air engagements between Indian Navy MiG-29Ks and the French Rafales. All of these exercises were done at beyond visual ranges of between 60 to 80 kilometres with the Indian Navy sharing that they were able to detect and engage the more-sophisticated Rafale fighter but score-lines of these exercises were not provided to this correspondent. However, Navy sources have repeatedly mentioned to NDTV that none of the exercises involved a straight "fight" between French and Indian forces with both sides deciding to deploy combined forces to maximise interoperability.

    The French Rafale fighter is central to India's plans with the Indian Air Force set to receive the first few of its 36 Rafale jets in September this year. Prior to that, the Indian Air Force will be sending its Sukhoi-30 fighters across to France along with refuelling tankers in early July to participate in the Garuda series of air exercises between the two countries. These jets will fly with and fly against French Air Force Rafales giving the IAF exposure to the advanced fighter that it will soon be in the process of inducting.

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/whe...es-bombed-a-tiny-island-off-karnataka-2050977
     
  18. patriots

    patriots Defense lover Senior Member

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    Bharat Dynamics Limited has signed a contract worth of 1,187 crore rupees for the supply of Varunastra Heavy Weight Torpedoes to the Indian Navy
     
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    #India set to join heavyweight torpedo club

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    India’s underwater weaponry is set to get more firepower with the Navy deciding to induct the indigenously developed heavyweight torpedo “Varunastra” into its arsenal. This will put India in a group of only eight countries that have the capability to manufacture heavyweight torpedoes.The weapon has been developed by the Naval Science and Technology Laboratory (NTSL), Visakhapatnam.

    Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) in Hyderabad has signed a contract worth Rs 1,187 crore to manufacture the torpedoes to arm both warships and submarines. BDL said on Thursday manufacturing would take place at its Visakhapatnam unit in collaboration with DRDO. A contract for manufacture was signed by N P Diwakar, director (technical), BDL, and Nidhi Chhibber, joint secretary and acquisition manager (maritime and systems), ministry of defence, in New Delhi on Tuesday.

    “The heavyweight torpedo, or Varunastra, is a ship-launched, electrically-propelled underwater weapon equipped with one of the most advanced automatic and remote-controlled guidance systems. The weapon system uses its own intelligence in tracing the target,” BDL said in an official note on Thursday. Varunastra is considered to be 95% indigenous. BDL, which was involved in the production of the torpedo, had earlier delivered it to the Indian Navy in 2016 which evaluated it. Subsequently, a decision was taken to order production.

    Varunastra can hit stealth submarines underwater. The ship-launched missiles can also be launched from ashore. It is seven to eight metres long, weighs 1,500 kg and has a diameter of 533 mm. The anti-submarine electric torpedo when fired can travel at 40 knots, or 74 kmph. The operational range is 40 km and it can carry a warhead weighing 250 kg. According to DRDO, it can be launched from ships and submarines.

    India’s intends also to sell the heavyweight torpedo to friendly nations.
    .https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal
     
  20. Immanuel

    Immanuel Senior Member Senior Member

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    So much for Spectra. Seems like the Mig-29K still holding it's own.
     
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