India loses on Sri Lankan battleground

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  1. Neil

    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    it wasnt permanent aid that was given, it was temporary aid that every country including poor countries like SL also send. What was the need to send aid to Nepal during recent earthquake when we know how millions of SL survive in poverty and you have world powers providing much better resources to Nepal. Humanitarian need for time being.

    i havent come across any documents suggesting Jaffna was under SL control.. and if so absolute considering north was effectively cut from rest of the country.

    Shows how much LTTE had managed to gain contrary to your views that SL was under taking quite a winning offensive

    please show the document. Show/link to the article about alleged violation of human rights and punishment meted out.

    Well we all know how much SL authorities objected to even the UN draft with suggested SL to at least investigate the alleged violation or allow international observers to do the same, so its hard to believe just because TNA is in power up north SL will allow those observers to get in.



    No you cant, u do know the difference between international waters and territorial waters dont you? U can stalk them, observe them but you cant chase them away from international waters just like what US and USSR did.
     
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    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    Who ask for aid from India in the first place? Why do India has to force the aid on Sri Lanka when it doesn't need help?

    Then you have not read properly. North was cut from the South doesn't mean Jaffna was under LTTE control. You seems illiterate on Sri Lanka.

    That's because India favored LTTE.

    Check on LLRC report and recent Maxwell Paranagama report. Both have studied on the final phase of the war and suggested some recommendations.

    Sri Lanka object to UN resolutions because Sri Lanka don't need special investigation headed by foreigners.

    No observers need to come to Sri Lanka. Media will cover the story if TNA wants to unearth the burial sites.

    Then why the hell India lay claim to IOR. India should stick with it's territorial waters.
     
  3. Neil

    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    It wasnt for SL it was for tamils reeling under a genocidal regime in SL who only had no sympathy for tamils in the north

    than you are just condescending your ego nothing more. Its a matter of common sense that north was effectively LTTE controlled, whatever SL authority was within or near the base in the area

    we had sympathy for Tamils, but dont forget we had made it abundantly clear we believed one SL policy


    good at least you had one. Thats progress. Well next is allowing observers to the base and investigate army held area.

    You have no idea about strategic or naval planning or how it works do you? nobody lays claim to IOR, we are not china. We consider IOR as our backyard and hence we monitor and observe foreign navies and their activities
     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    You are virually not capable of arguing on fact as all other medias are banned in your country. The truth for you is something which CPC want you to believe. You are subverted people and you should not talk of any truth based arguments for ever.
     
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    Based on Chinese paperwork, they plan to expand Hambantota's capacity to 1400 million TEU.
    Currently, Colombo's capacity is 330 million TEU, the project is expand it to 1000 million TEU.

    In indian ocean:
    80% of Chinese oil tank, 100% Japan/Korean oil
    50% world box cargo
    1/3 world bulk cargo
    2/3 world oil transport

    Hambantota is only several sea miles away from the main sea line that make it almost equal to Singapore as transfer hub on cost sense.

    Yes, this port is quite profitable

    If you are the owner of ship of which destination is not India, do you want to travel hundreds miles to Indian port for a stop, or another port just several sea miles away?
     
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    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    @no smoking, do not try to play smart with me. You are confusing only yourself.

    I want real data, not projections.

    How much cargo is loaded/unloaded at Hambantota? can you give me data for last five years.

    As far as viability of Hambantota, it is in India's hands. Indian ships can always pick up cargo from Singapore or Colombo, depending upon what makes sense. A ship has to carry two way cargo, not one way. It is not as simple as Chinese vessel unloading India bound cargo at Hambantota and expecting Indian ships to pick up.
     
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    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    China cannot force India on international trade. Strong arm tactics will cause China's share of India's imports to go down.
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    Well, the public secret is you can.
    When you build a port, you are building not only a stop spot for ship, but also other facilities such as ship maintenance, logistic centre, oil storage, power station. Certainly, as the builder, most of the equipment of these facilities will be made in China. Then, it is rational to require Chinese to set up factories to supply the components and tools which are necessary for maintenance. Meanwhile, hotel, restaurants and other entertainment service will be brought in for these chinse workers and managers. So, you see, Chinese investments will be the first group coming in. This will give them a big advantage.

    But this port is best positioned geographically.

    Or China can show an example of producing goods in Sri Lanka, satisfy the domestic market and export to India.
     
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    You are fooling yourselves, the whole project will complete in 2022. What will last five years data do to prove the potential profitability after 2022?

    Besides, this kind of big infrastructure project generally requires 20-30 years to make money back

    Are you trying to fool yourselves again?
    Who is talking about Indian ship? I made it clear: this port is perfect for those ships whose destination is NOT INDIA! If a chinese ship carries the electrical products to Europe, why should it need India ships to pick up.

    My friend, you need to open your mind.
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    :facepalm:, no one is forcing Indian on International trade. Indian ships can go anywhere they want, but Chinese ships will stop in this port as long as they are not sailing towards/from India. This is not arm tactics, it is economic competition, get used to it.
     
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    @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @sob @LETHALFORCE @pmaitra is jhand ko BAN karo
     
  12. amoy

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    China, Sri Lanka sign renewed deal to build Colombo Port City
    on: August 13, 2016
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    Sri Lanka on Friday (Aug 12) entered into renewed mega deal with China to resume the multi-million Colombo Port City development project, which is now renamed as Financial City Project.

    The signing of the tripartite deal among the Ministry of Megapolis and Western Development, the Urban Development Authority (UDA) and CHEC Port City Colombo (Pvt) Ltd, has come a day before Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe’s four-day ‘observation visit’ to China.

    The Prime Minister is accompanied by Professor Maithri Wickremesinghe, Disaster Management Minister Anura Priyadarshana Yapa, Megapolis and Western Development Minister Patali Champika Ranawaka.

    The Cabinet, on Wednesday, approved the proposal by Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe, in his capacity as Minister of National Policies and Economic Affairs, to draft the required legislation to establish the Financial City in Colombo.

    Accordingly, the objective of the proposed financial city is to make Colombo a financial hub, to attract foreign investments from South Asian and Middle East regions, as well as from European countries.

    CHEC Port City is the subsidiary of the China Communication Construction Company (CCCC) and total project development cost of approximately USD 1.4 billion is invested by the Project Company.

    The new mini-city is to be built entirely on 269 hectares of land reclaimed from the sea, stretching out from the coastline to the north of Colombo’s famed Galle Face Green, an old colonial recreational ground.

    The Friday agreement formally replaces the agreement signed by the previous Rajapaksa government on September 16, 2014. The Project Company commenced construction of the Port City and dredging following the signing of this agreement.


    The project was fiercely opposed by the then UNP-led opposition coalition which backed Maithripala Sirisena against Mahinda Rajapaksa prior to the January and August elections last year.

    The construction work was suspended in March 2015 following a notice by the new Sirisena government which raised environmental impact concerns.

    The state-run Daily News said that the Colombo Port City was intended to make “this logistical heartland into something more than just a place to transship containers”.

    “It is to be a major financial center, rivaling Singapore to the east and Dubai to the west, providing direct access to the colossal markets of the Indian Subcontinent, while boosting Sri Lanka’s intake of foreign capital and increasing local employment opportunities in the process,” it said.
     
  13. busesaway

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    This project is a positive for the Sri Lankan economy and the Sri Lankan people. There isn't anything India should worry about. If India was richer than China, Sri Lanka wouldn't care about this investment.

    I think Sri Lanka needs to focus on building up its infrastructure. There needs to be urban metro systems, piped drinking water, clean green electricity, piped sewage systems, high-speed railway networks, universities, hospitals, etc... and if this is done through China's help, it doesn't matter.

    I just hope the investment is spread out from Colombo, especially to those areas hit hard by war.
     
  14. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    You do know Major Gunaratne's disclosure do you?

    He told about how LTTE was also being paid by SL Army to attack Indians.

    There is no hatred between north and south. Please be a bit more logical.

    It is such posts that make us nothing less than the in-fighting Pakistanis.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    India is playing the classical Indian game.

    You just don't ask others to stop and they'll stop.

    Give them an alternative.

    China has agreed to develop ports there in record times, while Indian investments and construction are delayed and bogged down by too much politics.

    That's what needs to change.

    If we can construct a port free of cost for them, they SL will align with us.

    There is no ant-India sentiment here. Lankans are only seeing who cna help them develop faster.

    Although their China-made airport Mattala Rajapakse Airport is in severe losses due to lack of customers and Hambantota isn't actually giving them any benefit.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    Wrong. LTTE was a war funded largely by the church and its affiliated agencies. These "peaceful" countries of Europe and west wear suits and make it look all "secular" whereas the hand that Church had in pushing tamil people of SL is shocking.

    Please do research about it.

    Basically, West played with Tamil people of SL.

    Please do read about how similar conflicts have been created in Congo, Gabon, Rwanda etc by the Church apparatus under the guise of 'socialism and secularism' and how ethnic wars are brutally promoted.

    There is a book called BREAKING INDIA by Rajiv Malhotra and Aravindan Neelakandan, elaborating on how the Church operates.

    And in northeast India, Church is playing havoc with the locals.

    And FYI, I am from northeastern India and not some Hindiwala or whatever you've been promoting here.
    Indians didn't kill SL Tamils; Churches and their affiliated bodies fooled you into fighting a war that never existed.
     
  17. OrangeFlorian

    OrangeFlorian Anon Supreme Senior Member

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    The papists also f**ked around in croatia
     
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  18. HeinzGud

    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    Mattala airport is built to operate in conjuncture with the H'tota harbor. Therefore it is unfair to note that the airport in making severe losses in terms of passenger count. Mattala is now however earning lots of money through allowing it's airspace to be used by larger passenger air crafts like Airbus A380 bound to and from Australia. A niche previously filled by the Chennai airport.

    Hambantota harbor is just a one part of a larger development project called "Greater H'tota" development plan. It encompass the airport, harbour, expressway, rail link and a massive industrial estate. It will be the future of Sri Lanka if properly developed.
     
  19. AbhinavTheBrahmin

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    Sri Lankans are Santani Because they were hindus too
     
  20. AbhinavTheBrahmin

    AbhinavTheBrahmin Regular Member

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    and now buddhist but still santani because buddhism was born in india
     
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