Failed Terrorist State of Pakistan: Idiotic Musings

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Re: US refused visas to three govt officials: FM
Lets deport US Ambassador, stop their supply route. Bully knows only.
Pakistan should have its nuke in a deployed state-who knows the intention of US, and who can rely on Arab states who only care about their thrones!
Make the same thing for Pompeo
Looks like the Trump administration is seeking to pick a fight and further deepen its mistrust with the most prominent and powerful adversaries (Iran and Pakistan) of its greatest friends (Israel and India).
:lawl::lawl: oo la la!!
Lets deny visas to US officials also......if we have any self respect.
There is no morality found wherever the US footprint is seen. Right now Pakistan is on their hit-list, because they are scared to death of the growth and growth of China as a super-power that is challenging them economically, and Pakistan is a small but vital cog in that game. And Pakistan is a nuclear power. Both these are potential future threats to the complete hegemony the US demands as a matter of right. It really matters little what Pakistan does short of dumping China and surrendering it's nukes. Yhe US attitude will not change only the excuses may. And then we will be totally at the US's mercy; and we have seen where that took us each time in the past. So, Hobson's choice. Buckle up Pakistan. It's going to be a bumpy ride for a short while.
 

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And Japan's neighbour, the nation with which it shares a border- Germany? Why leave it?
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@12arya

He overstated it but Japanese auto companies actually do have a presence in Pakistan, and it seems like they are looking to scale up. Me had flagged it a few months back too.

Honda, Toyota, Suzuki have plants in Pakistan since decades now. Pakistan has announced a tax incentive for foreign auto companies in 2016, following which, Renault, Nissan and Hyundai are slated to participate in the Pakistani market as joint ventures.

In the 90's Japan acquired 40% stake in Pak Suzuki (similar to how we have Maruti Suzuki). Toyota Corolla produces vehicles under the name of Indus Motors. Honda has a joint venture with Pakistan company called Honda Atlas. Isuzu has a joint venture called Gandhara Isuzu. Nissan also has a JV in Pakistan called Gandhara Nissan.

In fact, even Tata Motors has a stake in Pakistani auto industry. Tata has a JV with S.Korean company to make Tata Daveo buses. The parts are made in Korea and the buses are assembled in Pakistan.

All an auto manufacturer looks for is cheap land, cheap labor, and proximity to sea ports. The hi-tech machinery can be flown in from Japan and installed just as easily in Pakistan as it can be done in India. In fact, the auto industry is the only modern industry Pakistan can have because IT services requires educated population. It's not like Japan relies on Pakistani technology to come up with the assembly line. They just need the land and blue collared workers. Having a plant in S.E Asia allows an auto-manufacturer to cater to the huge demand for cars in Asia. It is for India to tell them that we will put 300% import duty on vehicles manufactured in Pakistan. You either manufacture in India and export it out from here, or get banned from selling in India.
 
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Every interview I watch, every news clip I see about #Pakistani girls fooled by #Chinese men say these two things;

1. He promised us money
2. He promised to take me out of Pakistan :pound:


I wonder how then shameless patriot Pakistanis call themselves “Proud Pakistani”?

One more thing I noticed is the only priority for marriage for the girls and their family is whether THE GROOM IS A BORN MUSLIM OR NOT.

I mean seriously????????????????? In name of Islam they would do anything.
 

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This is what we call intellectual masturbation!!
Hi,

Some say ' hindsight 20/20 '---other say---' you should have thought about the consequences before hand'---' you should have thought about who you are---what your assets are---what your friends and allies need---what concerns your enemy---what assets that you have that your enemy does not want you to have---& what could the enemy do to remove those assets '---.

I seriously think that is a statement that shows like something too much to ask---even to a pakistani military General officer in command---because most of their interest lies in housing schemes---property---commissions---war on terror & things on similar line & length---India---.

The there is the mantra of tactical nucs---. Well the problem with that mantra is that the super power does not like that mantra---. The religionist evangelicals in the regime want to de-fang pakistan---and the only people who did not know abut that was the pakistani military generals---who sitting secure in their offices believed their assets are secure---I mean to say the nucs---.

What america does in front of everyone's face is that it keeps its enemies farthest away from the mainland---and keeps troops at out posts distant from the mainland and tells everyone what the reason is---yet the pakistani generals never understood it---the current pakistani prime minister does not understand it either---.

Pakistanis in general have a belief---don't bother us---we will not bother you---what they tend to forget is that they have around 200 nucs that can destroy the world---so the baby that wants to make itself look innocent singing gaga maybe innocent in its own mind---but to the outside world---it looks like a death wish come true---.

So---the nation that does not know its own strength---does not understand what steps it needed to take to expand to protect its assets---has no understanding and concept of having military bases outside of pakistan at critical locations---having no concept of having those assets---is basically clueless of its environment---.

And that was very obvious when the Yemen crisis started---. That was the time for pakistan to have understood what was at stake---what was going to happen---what was coming in the short term near future and what the long term future game plan of the opponent was---and then it should have gone ahead and firmed firmed up its grip on the region as was being permitted by the super power---.

The super power USA gave the region of the gulf states on a platter to pakistan---and the fools rejected it---. The terms used were---we don't want a war---we will not participate in a war---we are not mercenaries---even though all the conquests of the muslim empire were mercenary armies---all the great muslim warriors were mercenaries---payment was in loot and plunder---'maal a ghanimat '---.

Why did pakistan not do what it should have done---was just to please iran---and what was iran to pakistan---a muslim brother---and what was pakistan to iran---a fcking inferior dark skin nuc capable country---.

Pakistani generals have sold the integrity of the pakistani nation and the future welfare of the country trying to side with a pariah nation---a nation whose sole and only purpose is to create havoc in the region---.

If pakistan had a 150 K battle group in the gulf states---backed by a seperate air force---armor--- navy & transporation---the US would not be sending in its naval battle group and there would not have been any talk of 100K american troops in the region or the B52's striking iran---.

There would not have been any pulwama type attacks---because the indian power would have been neutered or lessened by the presnce of pakistani troops in the region---thus no attacks by indian air force on the night of the 26th---.

General Raheel---sir---you truly failed pakistan---when it was time to make some hard & timely decisions to move the pakistani military influence from outside of its borders and into the gulf region---.

I write this post seeing what is happening in the gulf---what the US military is doing in the gulf in the last few weeks and what their plans are---. Mastankhan
 

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And intelligent response to this.^^^^^^
We already have enough influence beyond our borders. It was great decision that Pakistan kept distance from both Yemen and Syrian wars. These two were actually trap for Pakistan, but Pakistan manged to scape.
Atleast we don't have human blood on our hands.
Ooh la la!! !!
 

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Kuchh iss tarah ke bhi bhikhari hote hain.
Foreign policy is tit for tat ,first let's get unconditional support on Kashmir from Arabs and get similiar package like Egypt , then send the army wherever you want.... we have no support in FATF. Old saying .................... ya shiekh apni apni dekh...
I think we people missed the recent standoff with India, where all arabs left us and say sorry. Only US end up neutralized the situation.

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and 40 billion package ....all Pak army they can use .
As told before, they have overestimated their importance. Dhamka ke bheekh maang rahe hain.:doh:
 

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Dayum! Old age finally caught up with MastanKhan. Old chap used to one of the saner posters (by Paki standards) just a few years ago.

Now he looks like a senile old fool. Too bad.
 

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Same thread.... Lulz..............
Fortuna loves Pak... somehow!

Despite all the incompetence, criminal neglect and outright....????... the country is still somehow chugging along...

Anyhow, we have once again a new opportunity... given the current stage-managed-drama between US and Iran.

We need to accept deepdown... that we are Strategic Stakeholders in the GCC. And we have to take ownership of the emerging Security Architecture...

PMIK is going over there... let us see he shows some strategic insight...

Without the above mentioned we cann't have the rightful level of investments in Our Land... remember $3Tln in Sovereign funds alone... and then there are companies the size of small countries GDP...

We need to develop a Paradigm!

And no... there isn't going to be a war between Iran and US... just soundbites a la... resident shooper pauer...

Over to ya,

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Hi,

A country's future is built on what benefits it the most in the short run first and then leading in a directional adjustment for long run successes---.

And we are not a "pawn"---we are the power in the muslims world---we ARE the most powerful nation in the region---we are a nuclear power---.

But we the pakistanis are like little children with a little child mind about who we are and what our capabilities are---.

We are trying to play these innocent games by trying to act innocent---not realizing that the toys that we are playing with---the nucs---are not the toys of children but rather the weapons of mass destruction that can only be handled and cared by grown men---.

Our problem is that we are more worried with making this muslim neighbor happy and that muslim neighbor happy---.

Once the clarity sets in that it is pakistan frst and not iran first---that will be our first step to progress---.

Now if iran starts to threaten pakistan or starts terrorist activities---it may not like the consequences---.
 

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PAKIS invented , Statecraft, Mathematics and are a great civilization.

https://www.thefridaytimes.com/our-lost-heritage-i/
As I said before Pakis are Afghan warlords one day ,someday they are in the turkish sultan harem,someday they are the minions of nadir shah and someday the faciltators of bin qasim and for the west they potray themselves as heir of Indus and gandhara civilization it doesn't matter to them the one of the great kushan King's name was vasudev they want to delink everything with India sometimes and claim whole of India other times ,Pakis are delusional to say the least
 

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Thread: Oh dear Pakistanis/Turks: Look at the game being applied on Iran
Asalam Alikum,

May the peaceful/respectful Muslims live long and become strong.

For last few days, read a lot on what is going on.

Pakistan and Turkiye - YOU are the TWO pillars of Muslim world - Powerful ones who can actually fight.

I didn't include Iran because she lost all her worth after becoming childish, sectarian and dirty by divulging in sectarian wars all across Middle East. They don't deserve to be called a sensible MUSLIM power... They are actually Sensible PERSIAN power who really knows how to use Shias for its own benefit and creating chaos here and there.

That's all their worth in larger Muslim world. They failed to get integrated in Muslim world. They hijacked Shia religion since 1979 and created chaos here and there. Instead of building relations with governments, bastards always tried to create relations with sectarian Shia militias/organizations in nearby countries in order to create unethical/violent influence in countries so that they can get mileage out of them and pressurize them. They built their 1.5 inch mosque and I think we should let them live inside it. Decades of sanctions and isolation will definitely have some grave effects and one notices it when see Iran playing evil.

But what do we say? - when you try to become too smart, you are bound to fail after certain time. You manipulate others but end up manipulated yourself. This is exactly what's happening with Iran now.

Look Turks, you are great fighters. You fought crusaders. We Pakistanis will always respect you for that. You are loyal nation and has never betrayed Pakistan. We care about you. We will stand with you in your hour of grief.

Once again, looks like another country, IRAN, bordered right next to us, may about to fall.

But are we seeing what's happening to her? The same game can be replicated against us as well. So, we need to study it.

EU and US both played against Iran very intelligently. Plan/Action was coordinated and may be scripted together....

EU pretended to be neutral and somewhat sympathetic to Iran...What we didn't know that Iran was being played...Iranians were being kept confused and paralyzed while Americans kept hitting hard. That's what cunning Europeans did to Iran...folded the hands of Iran against her back while allowed the Americans to continue hammering Iranians.

Iranians are trapped now. Boat has missed.

NEVER trust EU, EVER......Lesson learnt.

If Iran gets fail, there are serious implications for Pakistan and Turkiye. We both are already hosting a lot of refugees/burden.

Refugees will try to pour in...Not to mention, Yanks would be sitting in Iran right next to us and more closer. We would be quite surrounded.

Americans/west are not happy with both of us.....They don't like Turkiye/Erodgan...They don't like strong Pakistan with NUKES as well. What are the chances that a great destabilization plan is already in the making how to push Pakistan and Turkiye down the drain and make them weaker? hitting 3 birds with one stone? West will destabilize Iran OFFICIALLY while we will get screwed UNOFFICIALLY.

Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria did become our headache and still somehow pushes us back.

So, why should we not coordinate our actions regarding this all possible mess? What are waiting for? Why don't we prepare joint plans/strategy to deal with all this?

Russians and Chinese must be watching all of this...Chinese thinking about OBOR while Russians getting worried about security in CARs region. They know what this game is all about. If all medium power countries got taken out, they are next in line.

I believe, this is high time Russians, Chinese, Turks and Pakistanis jointly formulate a strategy and share with world. This is our region and we will not be cowards to allow any jerk do whatever it wants in our region. Not anymore.

This Iran is still somewhat manageable than Yankee or Destabilized Iran.

Our region needs a VOICE - a big and collective one. Time to make it.
 

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